No debating top 3 teams in the state

Kahuku quarterback Sol-Jay Maiava opened the scoring with an 11-yard TD run in the OIA D-I title game against Farrington. Photo by Jamm Aquino/Star-Advertiser.
Kahuku quarterback Sol-Jay Maiava opened the scoring with an 11-yard TD run in the OIA D-I title game against Farrington. Photo by Jamm Aquino/Star-Advertiser.

First Hawaiian Bank/HHSAA State Football Championship schedule

With the First Hawaiian Bank/HHSAA State Football Championships set to begin Friday, there is no debate who the top three teams in the state are.

Two-time defending OIA champion Kahuku picked up all 15 first-place votes for the second straight week in the latest Honolulu Star-Advertiser Football Top 10 released Monday.


Two-time defending ILH champion Saint Louis, which lost to Kahuku in the Division I state final last season, received all 15 second-place votes this week while ILH runner-up Punahou was listed at No. 3 on every ballot.

The schedule for the six-team Open Division state tournament was released Saturday night. No. 1 Kahuku will potentially have to beat both No. 3 Punahou and No. 2 Saint Louis in order to win its ninth state championship.

The entire top 10 remained the same for the previous week with No. 4 Farrington remaining in that spot despite losing 44-8 to the Red Raiders. Farrington (8-3) will play No. 6 Waianae (8-4) in Saturday’s first round of the Open Division while No. 5 Kapolei (9-2), which won the OIA Red regular season, takes on the Buffanblu.


Voters seem to favor a championship game in the Division I tournament between No. 7 Mililani and No. 8 Campbell. Baldwin, which is ranked No. 9, plays the seventh-ranked Trojans in the first round on Friday at War Memorial Stadium. Hilo, which is No. 10 this week, will host Leilehua.

The Vikings were seeded first in the Division I tournament.


Three of the four games in the first round of the Division I tournament involve ranked teams. The only matchup with teams outside of the top 10 pits ‘Iolani against Moanalua.

TOP 10 SCHEDULE
>> No. 1 Kahuku, idle
>> No. 2 Saint Louis, idle
>> No. 3 Punahou vs. No. 5 Kapolei at Aloha Stadium, Saturday, 7:30 p.m.
>> No. 4 Farrington vs. No. 6 Waianae at Aloha Stadium, Saturday, 4:30 p.m.
>> No. 7 Mililani vs. No. 9 Baldwin at War Memorial Stadium, Friday, 6:30 p.m.
>> No. 8 Campbell vs. Waiakea, Friday, 7:30 p.m.
>> No. 10 Hilo vs. Leilehua at Kea’au, Friday, 7 p.m.

FOOTBALL
Updated: Nov. 21
RKTeamPts.
1.Saint Louis150
2.Kahuku135
3.Kapolei120
4.Punahou104
5.Waianae91
6.Mililani67
7.Farrington59
8.Kamehameha32
9.Lahainaluna25
10.'Iolani20

COMMENTS

  1. Education First November 2, 2016 1:49 pm

    88 November 2, 2016 at 1:44 pm
    Daaaamn look how many times my user name is being mentioned by EducationAL85. I had no idea I frustrate you that much. But than again you do have a thing for my nuts…..

    Dude you frustrate everyone. You are the dumbest person in the entire world. I feel for your mother and all of you teachers (assuming you went to school).

    Not only are you are coward. You are also an imbecile.


  2. 88 November 2, 2016 2:01 pm

    Say what you want but my username keeps coming out your mouth and my post appears to frustrate you to the point where your hands shake(as evident by your many typing). Being fustrated by someone you don’t know and can’t see my friend is the definition of an imbecile.


  3. 85 November 2, 2016 4:16 pm

    88 we like picking on you cuz your the town idiot! HAHA. The guy is too scared to meet in person. The guy wishes he plays sports.

    And he lives through a football team he never played for. He’s not an imbecile, he’s just pathetic.

    And 88 is your mommy still letting you grade her papers? I hope 88 never finds me. He is so upset right now I can see him putting a cap in me.


  4. 85 November 2, 2016 4:32 pm

    I have to admit your stupidity frustrates me. The fact like I said yesterday that my taxes pays for your welfare frustrates me. You being a coward frustrates me. Wasting the time of all your former elementary school teachers frustrates me. Your lack of general knowledge of football frustrates me. Your mom begging me to stop picking on you frustrates me. You pretending to be from Kahuku or Laie frustrates me.

    The only thing that you do that does not frustrate me is making new usernames like too meke, anywaaays, and good story. I actually think that’s funny and predictable.


  5. Kailua Boys November 2, 2016 4:55 pm

    In reading the verbal battle between education first and 88 there is an obvious intellect gap between the two. One can clearly articulate himself and the other struggles to put together readable sentences.

    Stay in school kids and apply yourself. Don’t be like 9 * 9 + 7.


  6. al November 2, 2016 5:00 pm

    “88 November 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm
    Say what you want but my username keeps coming out your mouth and my post appears to frustrate you to the point where your hands shake(as evident by your many typing). Being fustrated by someone you don’t know and can’t see my friend is the definition of an imbecile.”

    blah blah blah. it’s clear you have nothing interesting to say anymore and so now you’re just name calling. stop whining, 88. you’re wrong and you even have kahuku faithful disagreeing with you and telling you to stop whining. just give it up, already.


  7. al November 2, 2016 5:13 pm

    AUWE November 2, 2016 at 12:59 pm
    @al I am no way an expert on seeding or tournaments but the way 808 just laid it out is what I would have thought

    For open tournament it should be
    #3 punahou vs #6 Waianae
    #4 Farrington vs #5 Kapolei
    For semis
    Lowest remaining seed vs #1 Kahuku
    Highest remaining seed vs #2 St.Louis”

    i wouldn’t necessarily have a problem if it was seeded like that, although I don’t like the idea of reseeding in the semis. I’d rather just have the bracket play out. It would be more realistic to do a seeding like that based on strength of team if there was a merger of OIA/ILH leagues so that all the teams can play against each other to determine which is the stronger team based on record.

    as far as the current tournament goes, i think it’s a three horse race: kahuku, st louis, and punahou. idk why people think that punahou is weak and has a bad defense. they have studs on both sides of the ball and are an extremely good and well coached team. I’d be surprised if kapolei can hang with them.

    i feel like punahou vs kahuku will be a great matchup


  8. 88 November 2, 2016 5:47 pm

    No body thinks Punahou is weak. Thats why they are the 3rd ranked team in the State.


  9. 88 November 2, 2016 5:56 pm

    Education Kailua there is an intellect gap. You resort to belittling mothers, teenagers and an entire community when your upset. You come on here and respond to your own post as multiple different people and then pretend that you don’t. Than to top it off your old as shet(by your own admission)and you can’t seem to stop talking about my nuts. Yes there definitely is an intellectual gap.
    You see I come on here as 88. Don’t need to make up other names to lift me up or help defend my opinions. I reply to your nonsense because you entertain me. Just like a clown your my entertainment. Now look up and tell me how many inches you see…


  10. al November 2, 2016 6:07 pm

    88, fyi, just becuase someone disagrees with you and thinks you’re an idiot doesn’t mean they’re all the same person. but keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. but please stop spamming the blog. just concede the point, already. right now, you’re looking pretty terrible and making kahuku fans look REAL bad.


  11. 88 November 2, 2016 6:47 pm

    Dumb Dumb #1 replies right on cue. Waiting for the other 4 now.


  12. grabum.bythe.puppy.gate November 2, 2016 8:16 pm

    88 watch out b4 educationfirst/85 call you out for lunch at mcdonalds. tell you to ask Rita the waitress aka janitor, to seat you at the round table by the indoor playground with the party of 4. Chef Mike aka burger guy going serve up some fresh filet-o-fish

    when you show up and he not there he going tell you he was there but all he really did was go thru the drive-thru and try to get a glimpse of you thru the window. lol

    you monkeys are 2 much!

    btw. im still waiting for the commitee to respond. my boy nick abramo is on it


  13. TooMeke November 3, 2016 3:58 am

    Get a room and go smooch already. Smh.


  14. al November 3, 2016 5:32 am

    88/toomeke pathetic. it’s clear you have nothing else interesting to say here but i’m glad that we finally got you to drop your “ILH Conspiracy” crap. hopefully you learned something over these past few days.

    I’m proud of you.


  15. TooMeke November 3, 2016 6:01 am

    @al: I learned that you ladies have too much time on your hands.

    Have I read all of your poor attempts at dissertations? No. Waste of my time.

    What else have I learned? To stop casting pearls to the likes of you.

    Y’all keep attempting your “poor man’s” versions of whatever it is you’re woefully hoping to accomplish in here.

    I don’t write conspiracy theories. I write TRUTH. And your OPINIONS of my truth are I.R.R.E.L.E.V.E.N.T…as are you and the ILH representatives in this OPEN farce.

    Go sell crazy somewhere else…no wait…keep it here…it’s good entertainment…which is all it’s good for.

    HA!!!!

    RRFL.


  16. TooMeke November 3, 2016 6:05 am

    btw (for all you schizo/bipolar entities): I only come on here as one person.

    Moderator can verify if they want to waste their time as well.

    Here’s a clue:

    AZ RRFL! (simplifying my location for those of you who keep SAYING they’re waiting to meet me at some location in HI…lol…goooooooooooooooood story).


  17. Education First November 3, 2016 7:32 am

    Kailua Boys November 2, 2016 at 4:55 pm
    In reading the verbal battle between education first and 88 there is an obvious intellect gap between the two. One can clearly articulate himself and the other struggles to put together readable sentences.

    Stay in school kids and apply yourself. Don’t be like 9 * 9 + 7.

    —————————-
    Watch out Kailua Boys. 88 might call Mahina to come get you. Then Too Meke (88’s alter ego) will not grade your papers anymore. His mommy is too busy that’s why.


  18. Education First November 3, 2016 7:34 am

    TooMeke November 3, 2016 at 6:05 am
    btw (for all you schizo/bipolar entities): I only come on here as one person.

    Moderator can verify if they want to waste their time as well.

    Here’s a clue:

    AZ RRFL! (simplifying my location for those of you who keep SAYING they’re waiting to meet me at some location in HI…lol…goooooooooooooooood story).

    ————————————-
    OK 88, like it’s so hard to use a different computer with a new IP address either from someone who doesn’t password protect their wireless or use the public computer at the Walmart like you have been doing…..

    C’mon, stop being so transparent.


  19. Education First November 3, 2016 7:40 am

    88 November 2, 2016 at 5:56 pm
    Education Kailua there is an intellect gap. You resort to belittling mothers, teenagers and an entire community when your upset. You come on here and respond to your own post as multiple different people and then pretend that you don’t. Than to top it off your old as shet(by your own admission)and you can’t seem to stop talking about my nuts. Yes there definitely is an intellectual gap.
    You see I come on here as 88. Don’t need to make up other names to lift me up or help defend my opinions. I reply to your nonsense because you entertain me. Just like a clown your my entertainment. Now look up and tell me how many inches you see…

    ———————————-
    88 is getting desperate here. Nothing he says has any credibility or merit. While I offer evidence such as stats (I put the URL’s for verification), data, and other forms of evidence, 88 just rambles.

    He says he is only 88 but anyone with a Kindergarten Intelligence knows he is also TooMeke, Anywaaays, Good Story, and many others. It’s very easy to disguise yourself.

    At first 88 was talking about a meaningless poll, seedings, and a conspiracy theory. Now he is trying to mask his flaws in his argument by talking about his nuts, his 1 username, and other meaningless things.

    He is doing that to confuse the readers by offering so much gibberish, that people will either get tired of reading, or don’t want to spend the time to decipher all of the crap he posts.

    It is clear who the intelligent writer is and who the moron is. I am confident to let the general audience decide.

    Now go back to trolling 88, but remember the court order, stay 100 feet away from kids.

    ****NOTE – The court order is the reason why 88 is not allowed to coach kids. Please ask him to elaborate.


  20. Education First November 3, 2016 8:01 am

    88 November 2, 2016 at 6:47 pm
    Dumb Dumb #1 replies right on cue. Waiting for the other 4 now.

    ————————

    More like the other 40. I actually feel bad for Kahuku. Look at what the educational system did for 88. You have left him a broken soul. He can barely complete a sentence. His lack of higher level vocabulary is atrocious. He rarely if ever uses words with more than 2 syllables. He make theories and cannot offer evidence. And he is trying to persuade everyone to believe he only has 1 username on here (haha). It’s hilarious that he continues to write and post the most asinine and redundant pieces ever. But he does that under a false cloud woven by himself. We need 88. You always need the clown to make everyone smile, especially the clown who isn’t even intelligent enough to know everyone is laughing at him.


  21. Education First November 3, 2016 8:11 am

    88 calling someone dumb is like Farmer Boy Ipo calling someone fat. Haha.


  22. 88 November 3, 2016 9:02 am

    Such a loyal clown. Up early at 5am posting his nonsense already for my entertainment. Thank you for starting my day with a laugh.


  23. Education First November 3, 2016 9:15 am

    88 November 3, 2016 at 9:02 am
    Such a loyal clown. Up early at 5am posting his nonsense already for my entertainment. Thank you for starting my day with a laugh.

    —————————————–
    Wow, this guy cannot even tell time! Al posted at 5:32am and 88 reads it at 5am. WOW!

    88 you are taking dumb to a whole new level. If you want I can get you one of those analog clocks that the preschoolers use to learn how to tell time.

    I cannot even laugh anymore. You are the dumbest human being in the world. I am developing empathy for you. WOW. 5am huh?


  24. 88 November 3, 2016 9:28 am

    Holyshet are you serious? read it again but this time slowly and sound out all vowels. I didn’t say I was up reading it at 5am. I said YOU were up at 5am posting. For someone who makes fun of kids reading and comprehension skills you sure do lack in the same department. Thank you clown


  25. 808 November 3, 2016 10:22 am

    @education first

    Kahuku is the #1 seed and should draw the easiest path to the title game since they won the OIA title and is almost unanimously voted #1

    Punahou on the other hand deserves a harder path since they didn’t win an ILH title and is the current #3 ( IMO )

    Makes more sense for the #2 to play the #3 in the semis if they win right? As of now, St Louis has a much easier path than kahuku which is unfair as they are the #2 and should have to face the higher ranked team is the semifinal round


  26. Education First November 3, 2016 10:28 am

    88 you are so dumb I will interpret what you wrote. I never knew of anyone who wrote something and didn’t understood what they wrote. Are you really this dumb? Or are you trying to act dumb for laughs? I hope it’s the latters.

    —————————
    88 write, “Such a loyal clown. Up early at 5am posting his nonsense already for my entertainment. Thank you for starting my day with a laugh.”

    You are saying that:
    1) Al is such a loyal clown
    2) He is posting his nonsense early at 5:00am for your entertainment.
    3) You are thanking him for starting your day off with a laugh.

    Buddy, you time stamp it yourself by saying “5:00am.” It’s clear that he posted at 5:32am.

    And now you are saying I am up at 5:00am. Once again you are trying to mask your mistake. Let’s examine:

    I posted at: 9:11am, 8:11am, 8:01am, 7:40am, 7:34am, and 7:32am. My last post yesterday was at 1:49pm.

    Once again you show the world you are a moron. Let me guess, when you were referencing 5:00am, you were discussing another time zone? Oh, my bad I should have known that.

    It’s amazing that I wasn’t up at 5:00am. I never wrote anything at or near 5:00am. And nothing on this strand would give anyone with half a brain the inclination that I was awake at 5:00am.

    But 88 and his “special mind” thinks the times I list above is 5:00am. HAHAH!

    What’s worse is he is trying to defend it. We all know he was talking about Al since it follows the strand or responses. But the moron cannot tell the difference between 5:00am and 5:32am (or whatever it was). And to try and solve his problem he now tells the blogging community he was talking about me when none of my posts are even close to 5:00am.

    You are such a fool. But I will say this. It is fun picking on you. It’s like playing video games set to the easy level. But for you it’s more set to a moron level with you face smiling with a shaka sign for the special people with 5 usernames.


  27. Education First November 3, 2016 10:32 am

    808 November 3, 2016 at 10:22 am
    @education first

    Kahuku is the #1 seed and should draw the easiest path to the title game since they won the OIA title and is almost unanimously voted #1

    Punahou on the other hand deserves a harder path since they didn’t win an ILH title and is the current #3 ( IMO )

    Makes more sense for the #2 to play the #3 in the semis if they win right? As of now, St Louis has a much easier path than kahuku which is unfair as they are the #2 and should have to face the higher ranked team is the semifinal round

    ————————–
    808 those are very fair and valid points. But other than the OIA and ILH Champ, who really is the #3? The polls mean nothing. And since there are no head to head regular season matchups between these teams, no one knows.

    Even if many people think Punahou is better than Farrington, it’s not absolute. Punahou has 1 less loss. We are all assuming that Punahou is better. We don’t know until the games are played. Do I think Punahou is better? Yes I do, but I could be wrong. There have been many times in history where teams who are perceived to be better lose.

    I believe having the language of the OIA #2 going opposite their champion and the ILH #2 going opposite of their champion is fair. It was identified before the games were played.

    In the past I have seen OIA Champs in other sports being seeded #1 overall and having to go through the ILH #1, #2, and #3 to win the title.

    Until we have head to head games or a super league, I feel this is the most fair since no one knows who are the #3-#6.


  28. 88 November 3, 2016 11:16 am

    I can’t believe how slow your reading and comprehension skills are. 5am is the time I believe you 1. got up 2. washed your face 3. brushed your teeth 4. logged on to your moms computer 5. read the post and finally 6. replied and posted. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would know this and wouldn’t need anyone to explain this to them. But than again its you so I shouldn’t be surprised. And why do you keep seeking others approval? Its just me and you clown. Your my entertainment. No need to try to get other people to like you or be on your side. Nobody cares.


  29. 88 November 3, 2016 11:29 am

    All games aside you posted something very interesting and i would like to get your take on it. You wrote “other than the OIA and ILH Champ, who really is the #3? The polls mean nothing. And since there are no head to head regular season matches between these teams, no one knows.” Well since you believe there is no clear #3 how is that there is a clear #1 and #2? Polls mean nothing, other than last years title game there was no head to head and the ILH is considered the stronger Division by many. Punahou and kahuku did scrimmage earlier in a 3 team scrimmage with Farrington and scored 5 to 1 against kahuku. Yet Kahuku is #1.


  30. Education First November 3, 2016 12:05 pm

    I just entered 88’s post into Google Translate. This is how it was translated using that app.

    “WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH!”

    The second post was translated as, “My name is toomeke, my name is anywaaays, my name is good story.”

    Wow, this google translator app is amazing!


  31. 88 November 3, 2016 12:07 pm

    So you justify your stupidity by posting more stupidity… Good job clown.


  32. Education First November 3, 2016 12:08 pm

    88 November 3, 2016 at 11:16 am
    I can’t believe how slow your reading and comprehension skills are. 5am is the time I believe you 1. got up 2. washed your face 3. brushed your teeth 4. logged on to your moms computer 5. read the post and finally 6. replied and posted. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would know this and wouldn’t need anyone to explain this to them. But than again its you so I shouldn’t be surprised. And why do you keep seeking others approval? Its just me and you clown. Your my entertainment. No need to try to get other people to like you or be on your side. Nobody cares.
    ——————————

    Now this guy is just begging! Man at least come up with something that gives you a chance of making anyone believe you. No one believes you. You don’t think before you write. Well you actually do, but you just don’t think very well.

    One day I hope that everyone would have to enter in their real names. I want to find out who you are so I can send a gift basket to your mom and dad. Oh, the mind can only imagine what challenges they had trying to raise you.

    I mean, is there anything lower than a F? You would be the pioneer of that grade if that ever existed. My head actually is starting to hurt. You are so dumb it’s almost sublime.


  33. Education First November 3, 2016 12:11 pm

    88 November 3, 2016 at 12:07 pm
    So you justify your stupidity by posting more stupidity… Good job clown.

    ———————————–
    Write what you want, everyone on this blog knows I am the farthest thing from stupid. Now ass, arrogant, rude, irritating, possibly and probably.

    But stupid? HAHA, even the people on this blog that don’t like me know this isn’t true.

    But as for you? The more you write, the more you prove your ignorance and lack of intelligence.


  34. 88 November 3, 2016 12:13 pm

    You still seeking others approval. Clown its just me and you.


  35. Education First November 3, 2016 12:16 pm

    88 November 3, 2016 at 11:29 am
    All games aside you posted something very interesting and i would like to get your take on it. You wrote “other than the OIA and ILH Champ, who really is the #3? The polls mean nothing. And since there are no head to head regular season matches between these teams, no one knows.” Well since you believe there is no clear #3 how is that there is a clear #1 and #2? Polls mean nothing, other than last years title game there was no head to head and the ILH is considered the stronger Division by many. Punahou and kahuku did scrimmage earlier in a 3 team scrimmage with Farrington and scored 5 to 1 against kahuku. Yet Kahuku is #1.
    —————————–
    There are 2 champions, an OIA and ILH. Since both teams get a bye and you put the league #2 opposite of its champions, then it’s really irrelevant who is #1 and who is #2. It only matters to you and your merry alter-egos.

    And you are bringing up a controlled scrimmage? That is your data? A 3 team scrimmage about 2-2.5 months ago where they rotated offenses and defenses onto the field with 3 teams?

    Man you really are ignorant. But at least you are trying. It’s not getting better. But at least you are trying.

    There are clear #1 and #2 teams since there is a thing called a league title. Kahuku won their league title so they got a bye. STL won their league title so they got the other bye.

    And since the selection committee obviously used criteria from years past, other state tournaments, the language they used for almost every team sport for the past 20-30 years they placed the remaining teams accordingly without using a fabricated and meaningless newspaper poll.


  36. Education First November 3, 2016 12:19 pm

    88 November 3, 2016 at 12:13 pm
    You still seeking others approval. Clown its just me and you.

    —————————–

    Well then that’s not fair. You are a moron. 100 of you is about as intelligent as I am when I am sleeping. Please get more reinforcement or don’t waste my time. Debating with you is lick picking on that handicapped kid. Your mom asked me to stop.

    Since I have empathy for your mom since she had to raise you, I am trying to honor her wishes.

    Please stop posting and making the world dumber by trying to interpret such garbage. Your writing is elementary and juvenile at best.

    Next???


  37. 88 November 3, 2016 12:32 pm

    Calm down when you type. Its unbecoming of a person with such high reading and comprehension skills as yourself (wink wink) to have so many typos.


  38. Education First November 3, 2016 1:57 pm

    88 November 3, 2016 at 12:32 pm
    Calm down when you type. Its unbecoming of a person with such high reading and comprehension skills as yourself (wink wink) to have so many typos.

    ———————
    OMG I am getting 88-itis. You know it’s a new disease. You get dumber when you read 88’s posts. HELP!!!


  39. 88 November 3, 2016 2:25 pm

    No, your just being your old entertaining dumb @$$ self. Good job clown.


  40. Education First November 4, 2016 7:25 am

    88 November 3, 2016 at 2:25 pm
    No, your just being your old entertaining dumb @$$ self. Good job clown.

    ———————————–
    You are welcome my bitch. Now get back to washing the kids’ jocks and get it clean for the game. I heard that is the closest you will ever be to a part of the Kahuku Football Team.

    They don’t want you. You cannot coach. You are not on staff and will never be a part of that staff. It must hurt that you love the team so bad and they don’t want you. HAHA.

    No wonder you blog so much. The team does not want you. They never wanted you. So since they don’t and never wanted you, the best you can do to be a part of their team is to BLOG.

    HAHA, nice life buddy!


  41. 88 November 4, 2016 9:09 am

    Why so angry. Entertaining but very angry. You had better posts clown


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