Kahuku still clear No. 1 in Hawaii

Kahuku's Vili Fisiiahi led the haka after the Red Raiders lost to Bishop Gorman on Saturday in Las Vegas. Photo by David Becker/Special to the Star-Advertiser.
Kahuku’s Vili Fisiiahi led the haka after the Red Raiders lost to Bishop Gorman on Saturday in Las Vegas. Photo by David Becker/Special to the Star-Advertiser.

Kahuku’s 35-7 loss to No. 1 Bishop Gorman did absolutely nothing in the minds of voters in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser Football Top 10.

The Red Raiders remained No. 1 in the state receiving 14 of 15 first-place votes for the fourth consecutive week. The lone non-Kahuku first-place vote remained with Saint Louis, which holds steady at No. 2 after a 35-3 win over Kamehameha at Aloha Stadium.

Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa threw for 258 yards and two touchdowns against the Warriors to move to sixth on the career passing list with 6,699 yards.


Punahou bounced back from a 64-44 loss to the Crusaders with a 49-24 win over ‘Iolani to remain at No. 3. The 24 points allowed by Punahou were the most against an ‘Iolani team since 2009.

Waianae shut out Radford, 54-0, to remain at No. 4 with Kapolei enjoying a bye week to get healthy at the receiver position. The Hurricanes knocked off Kailua 34-20 to win their fourth straight game. QB Taulia Tagovailoa threw three touchdown passes, including his first to a receiver not named Jaymin Sarono or Wyatt Perez, and is up to 1,894 passing yards on the season.


The first change took place at No. 6 as Farrington, which was sixth two weeks before dropping to No. 8 last week, moved back up two spots after scoring a school-record 69 points in a blowout of Nanakuli. Mililani, which was idle, remained at No. 7 and Kamehameha dropped two spots to No. 8 after the 32-point loss to the Crusaders.

The neighbor islands hold the final two spots in this week’s rankings with Division II Kapaa remaining at No. 9 and Baldwin taking over the No. 10 spot by one vote over ‘Iolani.


Konawaena also received a vote.

TOP 10 SCHEDULE FOR SEPT. 23-24
>> No. 1 Kahuku at Moanalua, Saturday, 6:30 p.m.
>> No. 2 Saint Louis at ‘Iolani, Friday, 3:15 p.m.
>> No. 3 Punahou vs. No. 8 Kamehameha, Friday, 7:45 p.m., Aloha Stadium
>> No. 4 Waianae at Campbell, Friday, 7:30 p.m.
>> No. 6 Farrington at No. 5 Kapolei, Saturday, 6:30 p.m.
>> No. 7 Mililani at Kailua, Friday, 7:30 p.m.
>> No. 9 Kapaa vs. Waimea, Saturday, 2:30 p.m.
>> No. 10 Baldwin, idle

FOOTBALL
Updated: Nov. 21
RKTeamPts.
1.Saint Louis150
2.Kahuku135
3.Kapolei120
4.Punahou104
5.Waianae91
6.Mililani67
7.Farrington59
8.Kamehameha32
9.Lahainaluna25
10.'Iolani20

COMMENTS

  1. Alpha September 19, 2016 6:45 pm

    Kahuku’s 35-7 loss to No. 1 Bishop Gorman did absolutely nothing in the minds of voters in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser Football Top 10.

    Why would it change, there’s no school on the island that can beat Gorman…..


  2. red x September 19, 2016 6:58 pm

    Wait for it…


  3. Chloropicrin September 19, 2016 7:16 pm

    Why wouldnt they still be number 1? They’re number 1 until someone beats them on the field.


  4. 99boiz September 19, 2016 7:29 pm

    Straight from this red raider mouth…we got beat…ok…maybe even a beat down. Time to move on. Taki Taki for the second half of the season!


  5. Paper Crane September 19, 2016 7:48 pm

    Meaningful results so back to the fixes and repairs like for sure a future rematch this timed at Carlton Weimer Football Field; so next is with Moanalua on Saturday and I believe the smash mouth will be elevated to a Category 4MR meaning all 4 quarters along with mercy rules.


  6. Manley September 19, 2016 7:48 pm

    If the outer island opt out of the Open championship, why put them in the 9 and 10 spot?


  7. Alpha September 19, 2016 8:44 pm

    @manley…. because The Open is all HHSAA, they have no say on the rankings…. and according to some of the commentators on here say rankings don’t matter.


  8. AUWE September 19, 2016 8:50 pm

    Someone came up with an idea to stack one of the ILH schools with all the top talent in the state and send them out to compete nationally, instead of here locally, think then Hawaii could put themselves on the map. Hawaii does have the talent to compete on the next level but the talent is too spread out on different teams.

    @manley, I agree, it’s like a slap in the face trying to compete against all the best. Should have different rankings for different divisions. Level of competition not the same.


  9. anywaaaays!! September 19, 2016 11:36 pm

    @Auwe – yup I mentioned it and Ill post it again here….

    ————————————————-

    There will always be problems with the way that the ILH alumni and HHSAA are approaching this conference alliance agenda – because of the age old issue about ILH having the advantage of recruiting, the OIA peeps are adamantly against any kind of unification because the ILH are basically using their recruiting abilities to beat up on the OIA schools. ILH should leave the OIA conference alone and decide that they want to compete nationally.

    We should dump the idea of an OIA-ILH alliance and keep the ILH in its own conference, go back to the old prep bowl format so that there is still an open division title, the D1 and D2 divisions could stick to the 8 team state playoff system.

    The OIA loyalists would be happy with the distinct separation of the two conferences – the OIA conference will be competitive among themselves because there is still a lot of good talent in the public schools but the elite talent will want to flock to the ILH

    Here is what im trying to get at…. since we all love our 808 high school football why dont we root for a team like Punahou or St. Louis to stack their rosters with all the elite talent around the state, yes, recruit the hell out of the OIA and entire state, not for the purpose of winning a prep bowl title locally but for them to travel to the mainland to take on the BG’s of this world.

    A Bishop Gorman parent told me that they were in awe of Kahukus support and told us that if we wanted to get on the same level as BG we need alumni and booster donations to better our facilities and yes, recruit. Kahuku will never be able to do that because of the DOE, but our ILH schools are already doing that and if the blessings of the OIA “good ole boys” are behind it we could eliminate all this animosity between the two leagues and even lift those rules that restrict “transfer/recruits”, now we can really stack a SUPER TEAM at either STL or PUN and easily beat BG or any other team in the country. Im down for that because I know not only will our Kahuku boys be represented on that SUPER team but all the elite talent around the state.

    Haskell Garret, Ie Gatoeoe and Jacob Isaiah are starters at Bishop Gorman and were killing it against us last week. They are local boys from Hawaii contributing on the #1 team in the nation. I bet they stay home here in Hawaii if a SUPER TEAM existed that consistently ranked in the USA top 10 every year.

    As prideful as I am as a Kahuku Alumni our football team will always be top dog here in Hawaii but will never be elite on a national level because the lack of resources, this contributes some what to 2 or 3 elite players leaving our school every year for the mainland or the ILH for better opportunities, two of our younger skilled position players moved to Vegas this past summer and are playing on Bishop Gormans intermediate squad, same thing is happening in leeward Oahu and many other schools in the state.

    All the ILH has to do for this to happen is simple –

    01. send a letter to the OIA and HHSAA saying forget about the alliance.
    02. Make their scholarships/ financial packages affordable enough (aka free) for the top 40 players in the state
    03. Schedule road trips to the mainland in 2017. It cost money to travel but with the whole state behind this concept I think fundraisers alone would go a long way.


  10. Mahatma Gandhi September 20, 2016 2:49 am

    Did anyone really think Kahuku stood a chance against Bishop Gorman? Bishop Gorman recruits nationwide. They have grabbed players from St Louis. Not only can Kahuku not recruit outside its school distrcit, they lose top players to the ILH every year. Used to be only win-at-all-costs St Louis Crusaders, but Punahou too nowadays. St Louis forced Punahou’s hand. If Punahou wanted a competitive football team, they had to start recruiting like St Louis and Cal Lee. Back when I grew up in the 1970s, the ILH would recruit maybe 1 OIA player a year. Not like now. The recruiting has decimated teams like McKinley and Radford. Blame St Louis. They destroyed the competitive balance of Hawaii high school football.


  11. TooMeke September 20, 2016 4:50 am

    Honestly, why do we even think that Hawaii needs to have a “super team”? Because the media decides to assemble a list of high schools in multiple theoretical Top 25 lists? So that we, as a state, can be “competitive” in these extremely subjective lists?

    Because we lost? So what? That’s a part of life…and an important one. Every single significant achievement by Man was the result of a series of losses.

    Hawaii football, HHSAA-ILH bonding aside, is just fine. 99.9% of HS football in the U.S. is just fine. We don’t need to succumb to the whims of society and create the next Bishop Gorman, IMG Academy, or St Thomas Augustine. That’s a pointless endeavor.

    At the end of the day, the 5’9″ 19-year old QB from BG is going to get his full ride scholarship to Ohio State and disappear into obscurity. His 15 seconds will be over…unless he switches to Safety…maybe. The best thing he’ll get out of this is a free education at a top university. Which is the same opportunity available to all Hawaii athletes, regardless of which team they’re on. If we put as much energy into the endeavors of our kids as we put into these threads, we’d have some Einstein’s starting at left tackle in the NFL. Just saying.

    So let’s move on and focus on getting our kids to the next level. A “super team” is not needed for that.


  12. al September 20, 2016 8:07 am

    Toomeke “Honestly, why do we even think that Hawaii needs to have a “super team”? Because the media decides to assemble a list of high schools in multiple theoretical Top 25 lists? So that we, as a state, can be “competitive” in these extremely subjective lists?”

    We don’t. I’m glad that you see this. It’s high school football. None of the national rankings matter. Even the star advertiser rankings were invented in the late 2000s just as a way to get more readers to be interested in high school football.

    A vast majority of these kids will never play football at the next level but will remember all the friendships and bonds forged on their team and between teams, and will represent their school with pride, whether that’s OIA, ILH, or whatever league.

    Only idiots like anywaaaays who has his ego offended everytime someone says the word “Kahuku” the wrong way thinks about super teams to play on the mainland, all the injustices ILH has committed on helpless public schools, or whatever. The kids and coaches don’t care. They just want to play. And we shouldn’t either. Our time as high school athletes (for those who played) has passed. Let’s just enjoy the season while we can.


  13. al September 20, 2016 8:10 am

    Keep in mind as well, when we talk about high school football like it’s college or nfl and BIG money, it really isn’t. OIA coaches (at least when I was a coach) are getting paid $600 for the ENTIRE season, and a lot of the assistants are volunteers. That’s why most coaches are teachers of the school. ILH probably gets paid more but not significantly more, and most of their coaches are faculty members of those schools as well. This isn’t texas, where a high school football coach is paid $100,000/year and has his own position at the school. They do it because they love the game and love the kids.


  14. 808Savage September 20, 2016 8:22 am

    Back to the drawing board. Great way to bounce back this week against Moanalua. Another Radford type game with an opportunity to out up 80 pts. Than it gets better with Kaiser next week. Maybe a possible 190 pts in two weeks of play.
    How does anyone expect a “Top Hawaii Team” to compete against a #1 Ranked team in the nation when they play absolutely nobody all year long.

    Leilehua
    Aiea
    Waianae
    Campbell
    Radford
    Bishop Gorman
    Moanalua
    Kaiser

    How does any Coach accept a game against the #1 rank team in the nation with games like these to prepare? Damien or Iolani can qualify to a state birth with this schedule. And to voters this is what a “ranked #1” team’s schedule is classified as. Smh


  15. al September 20, 2016 8:33 am

    anywaaays “All the ILH has to do for this to happen is simple –

    01. send a letter to the OIA and HHSAA saying forget about the alliance.
    02. Make their scholarships/ financial packages affordable enough (aka free) for the top 40 players in the state
    03. Schedule road trips to the mainland in 2017. It cost money to travel but with the whole state behind this concept I think fundraisers alone would go a long way.”

    and just to put to rest this whole stupid concept of an ILH all star national team, here’s one thing to understand: HAIS schools will never do this because they don’t exist to support a football team like IMG academy. The football teams (and other sports) are extracurriculars that support THE SCHOOL.

    So let’s take the example of punahou. They actually have the most state championships than any other high school in the nation. So yes, their athletics program is good, but do you know what Punahou is actually known for?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School#Notable_students_and_faculty

    So no, HAIS schools won’t do some idiot idea of making a super team like IMG academy because schools like Punahou, Iolani, Kamehameha, and so on, are elite institutions of learning and their prestige lies in the fact that their graduates go to ivy leagues and become senators, presidents, professors, judges, businessmen/women, and so on. IMG academy is just a sports factory for elite athletes with online courses to get a diploma. their prestige comes from division I athletes and those who go pro. These are TWO DIFFERENT MISSIONS and HAIS schools won’t ditch their educational mission to create a national travel team because really, NOBODY CARES ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL IN THAT WAY.


  16. Alpha September 20, 2016 9:03 am

    808Savage September 20, 2016 at 8:22 am
    Back to the drawing board. Great way to bounce back this week against Moanalua. Another Radford type game with an opportunity to out up 80 pts. Than it gets better with Kaiser next week. Maybe a possible 190 pts in two weeks of play.
    How does anyone expect a “Top Hawaii Team” to compete against a #1 Ranked team in the nation when they play absolutely nobody all year long.

    Leilehua
    Aiea
    Waianae
    Campbell
    Radford
    Bishop Gorman
    Moanalua
    Kaiser

    How does any Coach accept a game against the #1 rank team in the nation with games like these to prepare? Damien or Iolani can qualify to a state birth with this schedule. And to voters this is what a “ranked #1″ team’s schedule is classified as. Smh

    Your absolutely correct, the problem is you complain about Kahuku’s scheduale like they hand picked their opponents. You can’t blame Kahuku for taking the BG game, that would be their only preparation game before they defend the title in states. STL and PUN have a way tougher schedule so they have the experience during the season to be competitave in playoffs. So if your gonna complain about Kahuku’s scheduale then point the finger a little higher then the school itself. And let me ask, what does it take to be no.1 in your eyes?


  17. red x September 20, 2016 9:20 am

    And our first hater is AL. Congrats al…stay tuned everyone there’s more to come…


  18. Education First September 20, 2016 9:20 am

    “anywaaaays” writes –
    All the ILH has to do for this to happen is simple –

    01. send a letter to the OIA and HHSAA saying forget about the alliance.
    02. Make their scholarships/ financial packages affordable enough (aka free) for the top 40 players in the state
    03. Schedule road trips to the mainland in 2017. It cost money to travel but with the whole state behind this concept I think fundraisers alone would go a long way.

    I don’t know too many private schools that can forgive 40 tuitions that could equal approximately $880,000. That is a lot of money to forgive and could severely cripple the operations of certain schools.

    This is not very well thought out.


  19. Education First September 20, 2016 9:23 am

    Mahatma Gandhi September 20, 2016 at 2:49 am
    Did anyone really think Kahuku stood a chance against Bishop Gorman? Bishop Gorman recruits nationwide. They have grabbed players from St Louis. Not only can Kahuku not recruit outside its school distrcit, they lose top players to the ILH every year. Used to be only win-at-all-costs St Louis Crusaders, but Punahou too nowadays. St Louis forced Punahou’s hand. If Punahou wanted a competitive football team, they had to start recruiting like St Louis and Cal Lee. Back when I grew up in the 1970s, the ILH would recruit maybe 1 OIA player a year. Not like now. The recruiting has decimated teams like McKinley and Radford. Blame St Louis. They destroyed the competitive balance of Hawaii high school football.

    What are you talking about? Kahuku can get kids GE’s to come to their intermediate school and high school. It’s not that hard. Why do you say they cannot get kids outside their district? There is no rule for kids in different areas to apply for a GE and attend Kahuku.

    Now if parents are interested in attending a low academics school is another question. But don’t say that are unable. They have every right and opportunity to persuade students to apply for GE.’s.

    Obviously no one really will. But it isn’t due to any rules that prohibits it.


  20. al September 20, 2016 9:24 am

    “And our first hater is AL. Congrats al…stay tuned everyone there’s more to come…”

    our second idiot is red x (anywaaays being the first). Congrats for not reading a single thing I wrote. Also, in case you thought that my last post about HAIS schools mission is about education is somehow a knock on Kahuku, you need to get over your inferiority complex and read it again.


  21. 808Savage September 20, 2016 9:31 am

    @Alpha
    Your absolutely correct, the problem is you complain about Kahuku’s scheduale like they hand picked their opponents. You can’t blame Kahuku for taking the BG game, that would be their only preparation game before they defend the title in states. STL and PUN have a way tougher schedule so they have the experience during the season to be competitave in playoffs. So if your gonna complain about Kahuku’s scheduale then point the finger a little higher then the school itself. And let me ask, what does it take to be no.1 in your eyes?

    Did I not.point the finger at the “Coaches” putting Gorman on the schedule? You don’t play bottom tier teams all.season to prepare for Gorman. It just doesn’t happen that way, you won’t get any preparation out of it. As far as the #1 ranked votes, I would think a strength of schedule would be considered & not basing any credibility off of a “last years result” to rank the teams. And to add to the “ranking issue”, for the majority against the “new format”. How could Punahou not be in a State Tournament? #3 on the polls all season & people are complaining about a second ILH school.

    I gotta say Alpha, you are the Kahuku representative when it comes to HPW Anti-Kahuku comments.


  22. Education First September 20, 2016 9:40 am

    @ AL, you are assuming that “aannyywaays” knows what HAIS is? I think you are giving him too much credit. For him to understand you need more simple sentences such as:

    See Jane run.
    See Jane run fast.
    See Jane run fast up the hill.
    See Jane run fast up the hill with Bill.

    That’s about how high you can go . If you go higher he will log off the computer.


  23. Education First September 20, 2016 9:56 am

    @ Al, it was so disappointing. I waited at Onadera until 2:00pm. I waited and waited for anywaaaays!! to show but he did not. I would have even treated him to the $250 omakase set since I know he couldn’t afford it.

    But we all know now. He’s all talk and a master chipper! Couldn’t put his money where his mouth is. He will either ignore this, insult me, or make a weak excuse. He’s very predictable.


  24. Alpha September 20, 2016 10:00 am

    @808savage….. actually it’s not just Kahuku, I try to give perspective when it comes to the oia. But since Kahuku been on everybody’s lips, that’s the oia representative…… I agree with you on how easy Kahuku scheduale is. But lemme ask you, who does the football schedule for the oia? Why fault a team for playing the hand their dealt with? And then complain about their results? You go after the dealer, in this case H. Tanaka (Farrington AD) he does the football scheduale for the oia. And why are so offended at the coaches for scheduling BG? Your looking at this backwards. Kahuku don’t play bottom tier teams to prep for Gorman, they scheduled Gorman to prep for St. Louis and Punahou…. if you were Coach Tata and you know your gonna defend the title either against Tua Tagovailoa or Nick Kapolei, and you have one free week to scheduale your own opponent to help your kids prepare for those 2, then why not the no.1 team in the country. . . I’m not one of those pom pom homers who only seems it one way, I try to see the glass half full.


  25. Manley September 20, 2016 10:00 am

    Getting confused just trying to get thru the comment fluff. Geez, anyway yes Kahuku is the number 1.in Hawaii. Holding the#1 team, 0-0 in the 1st quarter,14-7 at the half is big. Big offensive mistakes in the 4th cost 14 pts. That’s why they are still in the Country top 25. Got to hand it to Tata, this was not the smashmouth like last year. But that D is tops. No one has held BG to 0 and 14 at the half in the house that Fertita built.


  26. 808Savage September 20, 2016 10:41 am

    Alpha September 20, 2016 at 10:00 am
    @808savage….. actually it’s not just Kahuku, I try to give perspective when it comes to the oia. But since Kahuku been on everybody’s lips, that’s the oia representative…… I agree with you on how easy Kahuku scheduale is. But lemme ask you, who does the football schedule for the oia? Why fault a team for playing the hand their dealt with? And then complain about their results? You go after the dealer, in this case H. Tanaka (Farrington AD) he does the football scheduale for the oia. And why are so offended at the coaches for scheduling BG? Your looking at this backwards. Kahuku don’t play bottom tier teams to prep for Gorman, they scheduled Gorman to prep for St. Louis and Punahou…. if you were Coach Tata and you know your gonna defend the title either against Tua Tagovailoa or Nick Kapolei, and you have one free week to scheduale your own opponent to help your kids prepare for those 2, then why not the no.1 team in the country. . . I’m not one of those pom pom homers who only seems it one way, I try to see the glass half full.

    The OIA schedule is the way it is every year. I wouldn’t be blaming anyone for making the schedule. Its just the fact of how does a team prepare for someone like Gorman when the best they’ve faced all season is a mediocre “Waianae”? And preparing for St. Louis by playing Gorman? I ain’t buying that. You play a #1 nationally ranked team to prepare for a #2 ranked hawaii high school team? “Backwards” is what that is. Gorman a prep game for RR? I hope no BG fan reads this.


  27. red x September 20, 2016 10:43 am

    @al no need be salty it’s just the truth! Lol
    You guys going keep on talking smack about our school so we going have fun with it. It’s funny how your button got push to call me names….hahaha


  28. 87 September 20, 2016 11:04 am

    smh all these kahuku haters that dream small while our horizons keep expanding and opportunitys open up for our kids. RR4L


  29. al September 20, 2016 11:17 am

    “You guys going keep on talking smack about our school so we going have fun with it. It’s funny how your button got push to call me names….hahaha”

    lol nope. try again red x. Find one post in this article where I trashed or “hated” on Kahuku. One post at all. I’m trying to encourage you to actually read for content, not read for what you already think you’ll find.

    Go ahead. I’ll be here waiting.


  30. Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 11:20 am

    Alpha “actually it’s not just Kahuku, I try to give perspective when it comes to the oia. But since Kahuku been on everybody’s lips, that’s the oia representative… I’m not one of those pom pom homers who only seems it one way, I try to see the glass half full.”

    Alpha, you’re the biggest Kahuku nuthugger on this site aside from anywaays and 88. It’s cool, though. Kahuku is a good team.


  31. 808Savage September 20, 2016 11:33 am

    Manley September 20, 2016 at 10:00 am
    Getting confused just trying to get thru the comment fluff. Geez, anyway yes Kahuku is the number 1.in Hawaii. Holding the#1 team, 0-0 in the 1st quarter,14-7 at the half is big. Big offensive mistakes in the 4th cost 14 pts. That’s why they are still in the Country top 25. Got to hand it to Tata, this was not the smashmouth like last year. But that D is tops. No one has held BG to 0 and 14 at the half in the house that Fertita built.

    Defense, Offense, Special Teams, Etc. The game is won at all aspects. The whole state knows that Kahuku has a great Defense. How long will they last playing smashmouth? How long can the Defense stay on the field? That’s all the questions that were answered while watching the BG game. Some say Kahuku benefitted from this BG game. But it seems like the Punahous & St.Louis just got a great insight of the weak points for the RR Defense.
    And with the score of this BG game. I’m sure majority of the crowd knew how it would play out once BG scored. If Kahuku cannot score on Defense or Special Teams against a competitive team their offense cannot comeback from behind. This game showed their team as being one dimensional.

    De La Salle vs St. Louis (31-21)
    Bishop Gorman vs St. Louis (52-40)
    Bishop Gorman vs Kahuku (35-7)


  32. 808Savage September 20, 2016 11:36 am

    Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 at 11:20 am
    Alpha “actually it’s not just Kahuku, I try to give perspective when it comes to the oia. But since Kahuku been on everybody’s lips, that’s the oia representative… I’m not one of those pom pom homers who only seems it one way, I try to see the glass half full.”

    Alpha, you’re the biggest Kahuku nuthugger on this site aside from anywaays and 88. It’s cool, though. Kahuku is a good team.

    They call em “Ball Washers”. This guy gets all emotional when people are Anti-Kahuku. RR4L’s number 1 Fan besides the 40yr old Mascot.


  33. Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 11:44 am

    Top predicted responses from people here to 808Savage:

    anywaaays: “Oh yeah? What school YOU from?? Moanalua? HAHAHAHAHA. It’s easy to look up and hate us when you’re on the bottom! HAHAHAHA! St Louis keeps recruiting and we need to put a stop to them! If Kahuku is so trash then St Louis must be worse than trash because we beat them! hahahahahaha RR4L! Education First, I’ll place a large bet with you and not show up because I’m all talk!”

    red x: “Eh, my braddahs. I going let you know, I never read a single word that you wrote. All I know is that I kinda sorta read something that might be.. what is that word? derogatory? yeah, so I read something that might be derogatory and stuffs, but idk for sure because I never read a single thing you wrote. All I know is that you one hater, brah.”

    Alpha: “Look. I’m not a red raider fan. I support all public schools because I came from an LA county public school so that’s TOTALLY the same thing. So anyway, but I support all public schools. I’m a glass half full kind of person, if that makes sense. It doesn’t? Well, private school people are just too hoity toity.”


  34. 87 September 20, 2016 11:56 am

    is it halloween yet? cause all the clowns out early


  35. Education First September 20, 2016 12:11 pm

    87 September 20, 2016 at 11:56 am
    is it halloween yet? cause all the clowns out early

    Yup, and that is why the biggest clown of them all just appeared! Everyone, please welcome “Miss 87” to the party!


  36. Education First September 20, 2016 12:18 pm

    87 September 20, 2016 at 11:04 am
    smh all these kahuku haters that dream small while our horizons keep expanding and opportunitys open up for our kids. RR4L

    What horizons are this? Do you have alumni who are the President of the US? Or a senator? Or CEO’s of large banks or businesses? Did a board members from your school invent eBay? Or how about AOL? Do your students go to Harvard? Yale? M.I.T.? Brown? Penn? NYU? Dartmouth?

    If you are purely talking football (which we all know you are), then it is really you who dream small and have limited horizons. It unfortunate that when you look at the world, all you see are football games and football opportunities. And that is why after football ends after their senior year, life is all downhill. You haven’t taught them that there is more than just one sport in their lives.

    Oh let me guess you are going to bring up the NFL, you know that very small numbers where less than 0.03% of your graduating seniors over the past 15 years got to play in.

    You are very predictable. But then again I understand why you are predictable. You only have to much intelligence to use to be creative and witty.

    #stillwinning #alwayswinning #88>87


  37. Education First September 20, 2016 12:23 pm

    @ Jeezy & Al…..what really frustrates me is that people keep talking about the NFL. Using a simple math equation where Kahuku graduates about 220 kids per year, I took teh total amount of Kahuku graduates who were in the NFL for a minimum of 5 years (to qualify for the NFL retirement plan, I could be a little off on the years), and target a 15 year window, the number of Kahuku graduates who played in the NFL for 5 years over the past 15 years is something really low like 0.03%. Its very low.

    You can make a strong argument that if you play the POWERBALL lottery you might have a little better chance, haha.

    But they keep bringing it up. If my evidence to support my argument was 3/1000, I wouldn’t be bragging or using it as evidence.


  38. TooMeke September 20, 2016 12:27 pm

    o according to 808Savage’s ‘logic’ (yes, I know…oxymoron)…

    Kahuku should not have even TRIED. Really?

    And…the basis of his argument is their schedule. C’mon brah…try harder…wait! According to your ‘logic’…don’t try…because your previous attempts of postulating a position in here have been weak. Get it? Don’t try? HA!!!

    That was too easy. Next!


  39. anywaaaays!! September 20, 2016 12:34 pm

    Wow, so much love and caring for my alma mater, edu,jeezy, al…why dont you tell us your alma maters so we can show our love to you too, or are you ashamed of your schools so you come and hijack Kahuku threads? misery need company, no?

    Its one thing to post anonymously but to also hide your school? wow thats a new one. The last person that I called out on his alma mater was ken from campbell and then he dissapeared, maybe because he was shamed of the 38-0 loss to Kapolei and the 44-0 loss to Kahuku, yet he come and tell us how Kahukus football team is trash! unbelievable!

    …we are waiting on you 3 gentlemen to out your high school alma maters!


  40. 808Savage September 20, 2016 12:35 pm

    TooMeke September 20, 2016 at 12:27 pm
    o according to 808Savage’s ‘logic’ (yes, I know…oxymoron)…

    Kahuku should not have even TRIED. Really?

    And…the basis of his argument is their schedule. C’mon brah…try harder…wait! According to your ‘logic’…don’t try…because your previous attempts of postulating a position in here have been weak. Get it? Don’t try? HA!!!

    That was too easy. Next!

    How you going “try” when you cannot even prepare? Don’t tell me that Kahuku was prepared to play a team like Gorman. Not even close. Stop turning your “we going win” pregame attitude to “at least we tried” sorry sad story. Anybody can try, Radford “tried” when they loss getting 80 pts put up on them. “Trying” is for youth kids sports, “Doing” is for big boy ball. Outclassed, outmatched, got ran out the building. And admit that you were one of the many idiots that thought Kahuku was gonna win outright. Hahaha!


  41. anywaaaays!! September 20, 2016 12:47 pm

    808savage you are on the clock too along with edu,jeezy, al

    Name your alma mater so we can send some love to you guys too, or are you shame to say.
    Here is my alma mater……..KAHUKU CLASS OF 2004 AND DAMN PROUD!

    waiting on you 4 gentlemen…please dont cower out!


  42. Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 12:51 pm

    Ladies and gentlemen! I present to you, the return of Anywaaays. If you remember, I posted the following.

    Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 at 11:44 am
    Top predicted responses from people here to 808Savage:

    anywaaays: “Oh yeah? What school YOU from?? Moanalua? HAHAHAHAHA. It’s easy to look up and hate us when you’re on the bottom! HAHAHAHA! St Louis keeps recruiting and we need to put a stop to them! If Kahuku is so trash then St Louis must be worse than trash because we beat them! hahahahahaha RR4L! Education First, I’ll place a large bet with you and not show up because I’m all talk!”

    typical of anywaays, this is what he posted:

    anywaaaays!! September 20, 2016 at 12:34 pm
    Its one thing to post anonymously but to also hide your school? wow thats a new one. The last person that I called out on his alma mater was ken from campbell and then he dissapeared, maybe because he was shamed of the 38-0 loss to Kapolei and the 44-0 loss to Kahuku, yet he come and tell us how Kahukus football team is trash! unbelievable!

    …we are waiting on you 3 gentlemen to out your high school alma maters!”

    thank you very much for not disappointing, anywaays!! It’s good to know that when you can’t defend anything you say, you can always just go “LOL WHY, WHAT HIGH SCHOOL YOU WENT TO? KAHUKU LICK ALL YOU GUYS IN FOOTBALL LOL!”

    also, Ken didn’t say Kahuku’s football team was trash. that’s YOU projecting your own inferiority complex on him. But don’t let what people actually write get in the way of what you WANT them to write!

    btw, anywaays, i’m very disappointed you didnt’ meet education first to place your bet. But then again, you’re all talk and are obsessed with high school football even though you probably never played, but that ain’t none of my business.


  43. Alpha September 20, 2016 12:53 pm

    I’m not trynna sell you anything but give my perspective and opinion. Just taking the positive after the L Kahuku took. But you gotta be a little opened minded to the benefits of playing the no.1 in the nation.


  44. Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 12:55 pm

    anywaays: “808savage you are on the clock too along with edu,jeezy, al Name your alma mater so we can send some love to you guys too, or are you shame to say.
    Here is my alma mater……..KAHUKU CLASS OF 2004 AND DAMN PROUD!”

    There are so many ways to address 808savage’s argument. So many ways. Yet you choose to go with “WHY WHAT SCHOOL YOU WENT TO? I LIKE MAKE FUN OF YOUR SCHOOL’S FOOTBALL TEAM! RR4L!” as if what school anybody graduated from makes any difference.

    lol anywaaays never disappoints.


  45. anywaaaays!! September 20, 2016 1:00 pm

    jeezy is still cowering out…simply state your alma mater and we can move forward with intellectual conversations.

    so far 0 of 4 from (edu,al,jeezy,808savage) maybe they are all one person.

    and fyi edu said 2k on an even win/loss without the spread, I upped him 5k on the spread and he dissapeard never to be heard from again. just like now how he wont tell us his alma mater so we can show him love.


  46. al September 20, 2016 1:02 pm

    Education First: You’re absolutely on the money with the odds of making it into the NFL. And the average NFL career is three years, most of them much less. I used to tell the kids that I coached that the books will get you further than football will.

    Anywaaays!!: “Wow, so much love and caring for my alma mater, edu,jeezy, al…”

    Look, bro. Idk if you can read or what, but nothing I wrote on this blog posting had anything to do with Kahuku. Most of it had to do with your idiotic idea for an ILH super team. Please read a little more carefully next time. Or learn how to read. You and red x. I’m starting to feel bad for you and you’re starting to justify everything that Education First has been saying about Kahuku high school, right or wrong.


  47. Alpha September 20, 2016 1:03 pm

    Please don’t tease you guys, that’s cheap…. you guys can assume what you want but one thing I am not is a hater…. I totally agree with Education First and what he stands for, but I don’t have the right to tell folks who and what they are. I don’t know any of you, I just give my opinion and perspective on things…. you talk about proof, the proof is on the Koa trophy. Until Kahuku gets beat they have the right to be no.1. . .


  48. Vierra Ohana September 20, 2016 1:09 pm

    808Savage, what sports writing company do you work for? you do understand that these are teenage boys from the same community dont you? Did you expect Kahuku to use a Run & Shoot Offense? Kahuku played their game, the same thing was said last year on how poor or bad the Kahuku team is. Funny thing is that the poor team spanked St Louis. The sad thing is Kahuku is being compared to ILH schools here in Hawaii that have the best of everything and before you stick your foot in your mouth, Kahauku NEVER USES that as an excuse, none of the private schools could survive if they didn’t take the BEST kids from communities in the state. It is why the Crusaders won because they were the only school that focused on recruiting back in the day. Today every school and their uncle recruits. Please don’t make assumptions that you are not familiar with. Let us not resort to hypothetical or frivolous statements that degrade and demean teenagers, school staff and community members. You speak as a well-informed individual, however, your comments and observations appear as though you have some unresolved trauma issues from your past that you have not resolved. I would highly recommend that you seek therapeutic assistance to help you deal with the traumatic events you have been exposed to. Writing is a good coping skill, unfortunately, negative writing, and your vindictive statements are filled with so much anger and malice are the indicators that I couldn’t help in making my assessment of your unresolved trauma…………. #truth #respect #thesearekids #verbalbully #jealous #nuffsaid…..


  49. Jeezy33 September 20, 2016 1:12 pm

    anywaaays: “jeezy is still cowering out…simply state your alma mater and we can move forward with intellectual conversations.

    okay, first, this assumes you’re actually capable of having “intellectual conversations.” Right now, it’s apparent you’re not.

    Second, why do you need to know this information? Usually I’m very forthcoming about where I graduated from but I’m withholding that information because it’s fun to see you go nuts over it.

    But answer me this. Why is this information so important to you? What does it have to do with anything?

    “and fyi edu said 2k on an even win/loss without the spread, I upped him 5k on the spread and he dissapeard never to be heard from again. just like now how he wont tell us his alma mater so we can show him love.”

    OH. I get it now. You want to know where i graduated from so you can do some silly little kid thing like “LOL YOU GRADUATED FROM CAMPBELL HIGH SCHOOL! WHAT A LOSER! WE SMASH CAMPBELL EVERY YEAR! HAHAHAHAHAHA! LOLOLOL!”

    that’s cute. Really dumb and juvenile, but cute.

    also, you are lying with the bet with education first. He already posted that he was off island in japan and then countered with a wager on any nfl game. $10k, straight up. Meet him at sushi onodera on kapahulu (pricey restaurant!) with the cash. Even told you his last name and what he would be wearing so you could ask the host/hostess to seat you at their table.

    YOU are the one who disappeared. and then you come here going “WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO? COWARDS!!”

    lol get real, anywaays. You’re just all mouth.


  50. anywaaaays!! September 20, 2016 1:18 pm

    al just posted and didnt rep his alma mater after I inquired….smh!

    0-4 these four gentlemen (al, jeezy, edu, 808savage) im begging to think they are one person.

    look, a new RR fan posted and came out with their real name “vierra ohana” – the rest of us RR fans dont want to divulge our real names but we still rep our alma mater proudly on these Kahuku articles. You four come on a Kahuku article and bash the school, the kids education and the football team, yet you are a shamed of your own school/community/neighborhood that you dont want to rep it? wow!


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