Brackets for the Open Division of the First Hawaiian Bank/HHSAA State Football Championships were released tonight.
OIA champion Kahuku could potentially have to beat both ILH teams, Saint Louis and Punahou, in order to claim its ninth state football championship.
All games at Aloha Stadium
Saturday, Nov. 5
Punahou vs. Kapolei, 7:30 p.m.
Farrington vs. Waianae, 4:30 p.m.
Friday, Nov. 11
Kahuku vs. Kapolei/Punahou winner, 7:30 p.m.
Saint Louis vs. Farrington/Waianae winner, 4:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 19
Championship, 7 p.m.
Here’s the full schedules for all three divisions.
If some Kahuku fans so irate stay home no need spend your hard earned cash on the HHSAA entrance just watch on tv simple as that
just dont call it a state tournament, call it what it is…”the HHSAA Open Div Classic”
@kailua Boy “i think the rankings and overall seedings are totally subjective until there is a super league where everyone plays everyone. there’s no way to say for sure punahou is the 3rd best team when all they play is the same 3 teams each year (kam, iolani and st. louis).”
Mostly correct. SA rankings don’t matter. but overall seedings are totally subjective unless the ILH teams played OIA teams in interleague play. If not, then it’s up to the coaches/ADs on the seeding committee to hash out how the tournament should be seeded.
Because in the open division, there are only 2 seeds, they just had to figure out who would be #1 and #2. Kahuku is obviously the #1 overall seed because they’re undefeated in hawaii and the fact that they beat st louis in the finals last year. St louis, as ILH champ is #2.
From there, it’s a simple matter of putting the runner up from each league in opposite halves of the draw from the league champ, and those teams play the third and fourth place teams from the OIA in the first round. For non seeded teams being placed in the first round bracket, it’s not unusual to have the matchups decided by a coin flip.
Should the bracket/seeding system be changed? idk. that’s totally subjective too. it’s been going just fine for all sports for decades and nobody has complained except just recently on a small blog about high school sports by anonymous (usually) kahuku fans. but if they really think this is some HUGE injustice, maybe they should get involved in coaching and lobby their school’s AD to have the OIA rep move to change the HHSAA bylaws instead of whining about conspiracy theories on a blog.
Proud of the kids. Ashamed of the make things up as you go hhsaa adults.
Seedings matter, brackets matter. Fair play matters. Rigging the match ups so that different teams to play different oppenents is commendable. Hhsaa Manipulating the seeding in for their gain is not.
Remember they are doing the best they can, since this hole thing was cooked up two games into the season.
“grabum.bythe.puppy.gate October 30, 2016 at 8:44 am
just dont call it a state tournament, call it what it is…”the HHSAA Open Div Classic””
then by that logic, hawaii never had a state championship for ANY sport in modern history, especially for football.
All we really want to see is #1 OIA vs #1 ILH
Jason Keuma October 30, 2016 at 8:55 am
All we really want to see is #1 OIA vs #1 ILH
That may be all YOU really want to see. Or maybe kahuku fans because they know that kahuku will usually win the OIA title. others, including the players and coaches, would want to see/play in a tournament with multiple teams duking it out for the title. It’s the whole reason why HHSAA moved away from the prep bowl to begin with.
but again, this is all subjective. right now we have a state tournament. there is no conspiracy. it’s gonna be a good one and highly competitive. And maybe this will be a precursor to a super league merge, because then this three tiered system would make more sense.
al, it was a state tourney because the outer islands were involved the past 15 years, b4 that it was the prep bowl (oia1 vs ilh1)…use some logic i know you have some.
Yeah I like it! The kahuku fans that are complaining are the no faith bubble gum people! They’re the irratating fans. THE majority who knows the game wants this competition! GOOD luck to all. Because we going SASA everybody! RRFL!
@Al in case you don’t know or have been living under a rock the past 30 some what years this is the FIRST TIME that we as a football loving State is having an Open Division tournament. This is not Volleyball or Soccer or Basketball where the rules for tournament seedings where done in advance before the season started. This is Football, where AFTER the season had already started and AFTER they got to see the dominant teams play they decided to make an all NEW Division that would pit the top 6 teams in the Islands against each other. Now how does the rest of the football loving planet create playoff seedings when it comes to a 6 team tournament? #1 plays winner of #4 and #5. #2 plays winner of #3 and #6. Its not done by “well the 80 people who came to watch Punahou and St. Louis play at the stadium don’t want to see them play again” concept or the ” well this is how they seed them in volleyball so lets do the same for football” Idea. The top 6 teams from the island in volleyball were not separated from all the other teams and placed in a tournament all by themselves. Just call it for what it is and if the outcome is not favorable to those who came up with this crap watch them change it and create another PILOT state tournament.
So true 88. Then HHSAA only seeds 1 and 2 in the Open and D2 ,so they can juggle the match ups. By not seeding ALL participants, they can manipulate matchups. Very clever.
It’s like the UFC, what ever match ups make more $$$$, congrats HHSAA, ur the new Daina White….not fair, but way more exiting! Good luck to all teams! could be the first n last Open division we see.
kapolei got suckered too, regardless if they won or lost last night they were getting thrown into the pun/kahuku bracket regardless, thats why the brackets were not revealed till after because that game was a predetermined meaningless one.
I’m not a Waianae fan but I hope they play to the level that their capable of playing come time for Punahou. Nobody is giving them a second look here.
No worries, just strap up and bang Big Red, we know you got this. Shut um down and shut dem up.
Punahou’s defense is atrocious. I don’t even think they’ll get past Kapolei. And even if they do get past Kapolei, Kahuku will roll-kahuku-roll lol. The seedings are fine but this open division is crap because ILH is overrated. The old format was just fine the last 16 years (1 from the ILH).
Why all the whining for?As far as I know,the top 2 teams are seeded,ILH#2 goes to OIA#1,OIA#2 goes to ILH1 bracket,seeds 3-6 don’t exist,as a Red Raider alumni,I wouldn’t want to have it any other way.Too many years the excuse was Kahuku had the easy way in,now is our chance to prove to them it doesn’t matter who you put in front of us.BRING IT ON.Tired of the if we win it’s because we the best but if we lose it’s because the ILH recruits,not homegrown speech,if we win it this year,nothing needs to be said,we proved no matter who we play,let’s just strap it up and compete.Support our boys no matter who we play,GO BIG RED,We win championships because of our hard work,not because of who we play,IT DONT MATTER WHO WE PLAY
88 October 30, 2016 at 9:25 am
@Al in case you don’t know or have been living under a rock the past 30 some what years this is the FIRST TIME that we as a football loving State is having an Open Division tournament. This is not Volleyball or Soccer or Basketball where the rules for tournament seedings where done in advance before the season started.”
88, please read carefully. The seeding and bracket making process for the open follows the EXACT same procedures that HHSAA uses for basically ALL state tournaments, including past football tournaments and other sports. tournament seedings weren’t done in advance for basketball or volleyball becuase they needed to figure out who the league champs and runner ups were in order to seed.
As far as I know, the only sports that don’t have all league champs seeded (Depending on the size of the tournament) is tennis, possibly wrestling, and the other individual sports where there are multiple players from the same school in a very large draw (32+ players)
also, if you think only 80 people show up to punahou vs st louis or any ILH rivalry game, then you obviously haven’t attended those games. If there was a punahou vs st louis finals this year, there would be A LOT of people attending.
so let’s all stop whining. there is no conspiracy. the tournament structure can be better if there was a super league but nobody is trying to screw over kids. And for the other kahuku fans whining about matchups, quit crying. If your team is as good as you say it is, then they should steamroll two ILH teams easily. stop being so insecure because the only people whining are anonymous uncles, not the players or coaches.
grabum.bythe.puppy.gate October 30, 2016 at 9:11 am
al, it was a state tourney because the outer islands were involved the past 15 years, b4 that it was the prep bowl (oia1 vs ilh1)…use some logic i know you have some.
then you need to make your line of reasoning clearer, becuase the only thing you were whining about was how the seeding and brackets were structured, not that the outer island leagues weren’t allowed into the tournament (btw, they declined to participate becuase they couldn’t compete in the open).
Use your argument construction skills instead of your donald trump mimicking trolling skills. I know you have some.
To all the kahuku fans like bleed red and OGRR4L, I respect you guys. it’ll be a good tournament. Kahuku is a solid team and isn’t afraid to play anybody, especially possibly two ILH teams in a row. none of the other OIA teams are afraid to play punahou in the first round and punahou and st louis aren’t complaining about having to beat kahuku and another ILH team if they win states. The kids and coaches just want to play.
To the rest of the kahuku fans talking about conspiracies and whining and crying about recruiting, matchups and seeding without knowing what they’re talking about because you’re scared that kahuku might lose: quit crying or quit watching if it offends you so much. or go volunteer as a coach and lobby vavae tata and your AD to tell the OIA rep to change the HHSAA bylaws.
Best of luck to you with that.
ilh people kill me, they screwing the tourney up like how chow screwed uh football and obama screwed this nation…now yours truly needs to be voted in as president to fix this country and my first agenda, after building the wall, will be to appoint my elementary first grader grand child head of HHSAA since those batons have no common sense.
we dont lobby, we play. ilh is the whiners that lobby in back office deals secretively to change things in their favor
@grabum.bythe.puppy.gate you really need to do a better job trolling. try to stay consistent with your voice. you’re either a donald trump mimicking troll or you’re trying to talk football as a kahuku fan. you can’t keep switching in between both.
rookie move, buddy. rookie move.
ILH- you’ve been so quiet all year and now you got somthing to say??? Don’t repeat yourself like last year and make yourself out to be an ass.. What will the excuse be this year? Or do you need a third team for next year..smh
its obvious im a rr fan, have a sense of humour in light of the obvious strongarm tactics of the hhsaa n ilh.mr internet police
If we can travel to Vegas and play the #1 ranked team in the Nation, no worries, Big Red Got this. But if we lose, so be it. That’s why the boys strap up, to play the best, you know Big Red is excited for who ever is in front of them. I know I am here in Oregon. Go Big Red. c/o 87
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Yeah think that game was totally pointless, the outcome had no effect on the seeding, OIA would have been better off letting them rest and heal up before state tournament, a simple coin toss would have been sufficient
@Al
“88, please read carefully. The seeding and bracket making process for the open follows the EXACT same procedures that HHSAA uses for basically ALL state tournaments, including past football tournaments”
Al, please read carefully. In past FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS the ILH #2 was turning in their pads already. So what HHSAA procedures for seeding and bracket making are you EXACTLY talking about?
I don’t understand why so many Kahuku supporters are crying. In other sports over the past 25 years, the OIA champ has had to go through the ILH #1, #2, and #3 to win a state title.
Look at basketball about 5 years ago when the ILH had 3 berths. The OIA champ would have to beat the ILH #3, then ILH #2, and then the ILH #1 in the final to win states. And at times, the 3 ILH teams were arguably the top 3 teams in the state.
All Kahuku has to do is go through 2 ILH teams and they are crying. The sad thing is the boys and coaches aren’t crying. It’s the same fans and parents such as 88 (aka too meke aka anywaaays).
Lala October 29, 2016 at 11:59 pm
Maybe that’s the only way ILH can beat OIA…double team them. But, whatever and whoever wins….Good luck, Waianae, Farrington, Kapolei and Kahuku…do what you do….
The OIA has 4 teams. The ILH has 2 teams. The OIA has a higher probability to win based on representation.
And if you guys think a league so have more berths since they have more teams then you are absurd. Based on that logic the old WAC that had 16 teams should send more teams to the NCAA Basketball Tournament than the old Big 10 that had only 10 teams.
#sosilly
RR4L October 30, 2016 at 12:13 am
I.L.H should of added Kamehameha too. You guys making yourselves look to desperate for that state title!!! Bring it on…..KAHUKU GOING SMASH EVERYBODY!!!
How is there ILH desperate when they have 2 teams and the OIA has 4 teams? And I don’t know how you can talk crap when your student body has arguably the dumbest kids in Hawaii if not the US.
What are your kids going to do after (if they do) graduate and cannot play football?
What would happen if the P.C.C. even went bankrupt? None of your kids would have jobs and we (taxpayers) would have to give more of our hard earned money to your community.
#DAMN
RR4L October 30, 2016 at 2:54 am
I tell you what’s BONKERS………”ANYONE ONE BUT KAHUKU” now that’s BONKERS!! LOL.
I will tell you what’s BONKERS……”the grades and test scores of these Kahuku football players” now that’s BONKERS!! LOL
Kailua Boys October 30, 2016 at 6:58 am
the hardest path? im pretty sure punahou has the hardest path…you gotta beat kapolei, kahuku and st. louis.
it doesn’t get harder than that.
there’s no way they were gonna stack the two ILH teams in the same side. why would they do that? so they could play for a record 4th time this year? cmon guys.
TO KAILUA BOYS – “Buddy you make too much sense and are too intelligent for these posts. To be a member of these blogs you have to make excuses how the ILH is trying to screw Kahuku.”
Let’s be clear, the real people screwing Kahuku are their parents. Look how dumb their kids are. They are so dumb they don’t even know they are screwing their kids all by themselves.
#lowestSBACscoresaround
The test scores for which Kahuku football player? The one with the Scholarship offer from Yale or the one with the Scholarship offer from Vanderbilt? Or is it the one with offer from USC? Or maybe the one with the offer from Virginia?
grabum.bythe.puppy.gate October 30, 2016 at 7:53 am
@kb, this is not a preseason tourney where you create dream matchups. this is post season where your hard work during the season determines your position in the post tourney. all that got thrown out the door
You should call the HHSAA, get the news and media involved and make change. It’s been like this way before this football season. Why do you wait until after the seedings and placement of teams were revealed?
Why didn’t you contact the HHSAA office the day after Kahuku won the title last year. Everyone knew once they added a second ILH team that #2 ILH team would go opposite of their league champion like it explicitly states in their guidelines for the placement of teams.
Everyone in Hawaii knew Punahou would go to the OIA Champion’s Side. It’s been this way for DECADES.
Why are you complaining only now? Why didn’t you complain months ago when the Open Division was announced?
Why didn’t you complain to the HHSAA about Kahuku Volleyball having to face Iolani in the semis?
Why didn’t you complain for the past 25 years since it’s always been this way. And why are you complaining on a blog? Why don’t you do something about it.
I will help you out.
Email info@hhsaa.org. Make sure you put your real name and contact info or they will not take it serious. Then email all the AD’s, principals, and directors for reach league. Make sure you cc KHON, Star Advertiser, KITV, KGMB, and scoring live.
Go on public record what your complaint is and how they should change it.
If you are not willing to do that, and just want to complain and cry on a public blog, then please SHUT UP, you sound like the biggest whiner.
And we all know the biggest whiner on these blogs are 88 aka toomeke aka anywaaays……
Please don’t try and copycat 88, he doesn’t like that…
What u smok’n October 30, 2016 at 8:06 am
I’m a proud Kahuku alumn but embrassed to see how some of you Kahuku fans think. Some of you are just mentally wired wrong, there is no ilh conspiracy and we are not the enemy of the state. It’s great to be proud of your team and community but don’t pass the pride to become ignorant.
I admire you “What u smok’n” but you are in the minority. Unfortunately guys like 88 aka toomeke aka anywaaays represent your community and that is one of crying, bitching, whining, and make excuses like conspiracy theories.
I am actually impressed that 88 could spell conspiracy. But then again I am assuming his Commodore VIC-20 probably has spell check even though it’s so old…
Is this what you do when you have no answers for a question? You flood the site with insults towards the student athletes and their parents? I thought you came from higher education with kids who graduated from some of the most prestigious universities in the country.
@85″Everyone knew once they added a second ILH team that #2 ILH team would go opposite of their league champion like it explicitly states in their guidelines for the placement of teams.”
Where is this guide line at? The guidelines for a 6 team tournament state that the ” #1 & #2 seeds have first-round byes. Remaining teams will be paired and placed at sites by the committee”. According to the HSSAA 6 team tournament bracket the #1 seed plays the winner of the #4 and who ever is pared with them and the #2 seed plays the winner of the #3 and who ever the committee pairs them with. So where are you getting your info?
grabum.bythe.puppy.gate October 30, 2016 at 8:44 am
just dont call it a state tournament, call it what it is…”the HHSAA Open Div Classic”
If this was a true State Tournament then the OIA wouldn’t get 6 teams. It would basically be Kahuku, STL, Punahou, Kamehameha, Farrington, and Kapolei.
Waianae should stay home.
AL, KHON announced that the Punahou vs. STL game the other week for the ILH Title has over 15,000 fans in attendance. I don’t recall the OIA Title game between Kahuku & Farrington having that much people in attendance.
grabum.bythe.puppy.gate October 30, 2016 at 11:17 am
we dont lobby, we play. ilh is the whiners that lobby in back office deals secretively to change things in their favor
Any evidence to support your claim? I know you guys aren’t that strong writers out there but in order to make your statement believable, you need some shred of evidence. Do you have any?
88 October 30, 2016 at 2:08 pm
@Al
“88, please read carefully. The seeding and bracket making process for the open follows the EXACT same procedures that HHSAA uses for basically ALL state tournaments, including past football tournaments”
Al, please read carefully. In past FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS the ILH #2 was turning in their pads already. So what HHSAA procedures for seeding and bracket making are you EXACTLY talking about?
MAN YOU ARE REALLY DUMB. FOR ALL HHSAA STATE TOURNAMENTS, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE PLACES THE #2 TEAM FROM A LEAGUE OPPOSITE FROM THEIR LEAGUE CHAMPIONS.
E.G. OIA #2 AND OIA CHAMP GO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. ILH #2 AND THE ILH CHAMP GOES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
THEY DO NOT HAVE A DIFFERENT METHOD OF SELECTION JUST BECAUSE IT’S A FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS FOOTBALL, SOCCER, VOLLEYBALL, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, BASKETBALL, ETC.
THE HHSAA HAS A DOCUMENT. I WILL EVEN POST IT FOR YOU
I AM GOING TO POST THIS FOR ALL THE KAHUKU CRY-BABIES THAT THINK THE HHSAA AND/OR ILH IS OUT TO SCREW THEM. THIS IS THE SELECTION RULES THAT WAS AMENDED IN 2012 REGARDING THE SELECTION AND PLACEMENT OF TEAMS FOR ALL HHSAA STATE TOURNAMENTS:
SEEDING/PAIRING (Rev. 6/2012)
A. Seeding/Pairings shall be done by the Tournament Seeding/Pairing Committee.
1. HHSAA Executive Director, Chairperson
2. Sport Coordinators
3. Tournament Director
4. Others as selected by the Sport Coordinator
B. Seed the league champions.
C. Place the league’s 2nd representative in the opposite half bracket based on league champion’s seed. EXAMPLE: The state’s top seeded league will place their 2nd representative in the same quarter bracket as the state’s 3rd seed.)
D. Place the league’s 3rd representative in the opposite quarter bracket of the league’s 2nd representative.
E. Place the league’s 4th representative in the same half bracket opposite quarter bracket from league champion.
F. Place the league’s 5th representative in the same quarter bracket as the league champion. If the bracket is full, place the 5th representative in the last remaining open slot.
G. Place the league’s 6th representative in the only remaining slot.
***NOTE – NOW THIS IS FOR ALL THE DUMB PEOPLE. YES FOOTBALL DOES NOT HAVE 4 SEEDS. AND YES SOME SPORTS HAVE 6 REPRESENTATIVES FROM ONE LEAGUE (OIA FOR BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, ETC.)
BUT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE. THE #2 TEAM WILL ALWAYS GO OPPOSITE FROM THE #1 TEAM FROM THE SAME LEAGUE.
SO FARRINGTON (OIA #2) HAS TO GO OPPOSITE OF KAHUKU (OIA #1). AND PUNAHOU (ILH #2) HAS TO GO OPPOSITE OF STL (ILH #1).
THIS HAS BEEN PUBLIC RECORD SINCE 1979, AND HAS BEEN UPDATED A FEW TIME, MOST RECENTLY 2012.
THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. THE REASON IT’S DONE THIS WAY IS THE TEAMS COME FROM DIFFERENT LEAGUES AND OFTEN DIFFERENT ISLANDS AND THE COMMITTEE FEELS THIS IS THE MOST OBJECTIVE WAY TO PLACE THE TEAMS.
GET OVER YOURSELF 88. YOU ARE SO IRRITATING. YOU CAN’T EVEN DO A SIMPLE THING LIKE RESEARCH. BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU WENT KAHUKU SO I UNDERSTAND.
AND ALL YOU KAHUKU FANS WHO ARE COMPLAINING, YOU ARE WELCOME SINCE NONE OF YOU ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO FIND THE DAMN DOCUMENT YOURSELF.
88 October 30, 2016 at 2:48 pm
The test scores for which Kahuku football player? The one with the Scholarship offer from Yale or the one with the Scholarship offer from Vanderbilt? Or is it the one with offer from USC? Or maybe the one with the offer from Virginia?
The dumbest kid in the world can get an offer. Let’s see if they make clearinghouse. And wow, you mentioned 2-3 kids. What about the other 80-100 kids in the program? Great numbers, you just supported yourself with numbers that represent 1-2% of your program.
And you think 1-2% makes your argument strong.
I will give you some numbers :
College Readiness Index 19.0
AP® Tested 33%
AP® Passed 43%
Mathematics Proficiency 29%
English Proficiency 68%
And you are trying to convince the general public that the football team is filled with scholar athletes?
@smok’n…
HHSAA GUARANTEED the ILH that their two teams would be in opposite brackets…REGARDLESS of records. So that would NOT have to play each other UNLESS they both made it to the Championship Game. How is that not “gaming the system”?
G.U.A.R.A.N.T.E.E.D…behind closed doors. That’s not a conspiracy. That’s a fact. And these seedings are the proof. Irrefutable. (Plus…I got it from the “horse’s mouth” – think about coaching staff in the ILH and my reference and arrive at your own conclusions).
Now… I only care about the fairness of the process. At the end of the day it’s unfair to ILH that both of their teams are gonna get dosed by Big Red… AND… Trojans win the new D1… Which also kills Crapiolani’s auto-bid.
Can’t wait to watch the playoffs. Just don’t like us being FORCED… yes… forced to play ALL the best teams in the state. Am I excited about the actual matchups? Yes. But it should have been as a result of what happened ON THE FIELD…not behind closed doors. Das all..
k… bye…
Thank you 85 for posting the Boys State VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT rules for pairing/seeding that have been around since 1979. However we are talking about the Boys State FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT that has only been around since 1999. AND what does the State FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT say? Well, for the 1 DUMB person one here this is what the State FOOTBALL(Not VOLLEYBALL) tournament say: #1 & #2 seeds have first-round byes. Remaining teams will be paired and placed at sites by the committee. How are the State FOOTBALL BRACKETS set up? Well, for the 1 DUMB person on here this is what the State FOOTBALL(not VOLLEYBALL) tournament say: #1 seed plays winner of #4 and who ever the committee puts against them and the #2 seed gets the winner of the #3 and who ever the committee puts against them. If KAHUKU and St. LOUIS is #s 1 and 2 who do you think is #3 and what BRACKET does #3 fall into? You can’t be that DUMB. For someone who makes fun of High School kids test scores i would love to see yours.
57.14% of ILH teams qualified for participation in State playoffs including a team that was 0-7 in league play.
@85 do the ILH schools take ALL students of Hawaii? Nope. Just like you, they only take who they want and who can pay. Yuup, I graduated from an ILH school but I don’t piss on the rest of my brahddahs and sistahs who was OIA grads. Do all of the ILH schools have Fully Self Contained classes for severely handicapped students? Do they have Special Education classes?
Hell No!
What do the ILH schools do with their students who cannot perform up to standards? Do they provide them with support?
Hell No!
They kick em out and say “see you later.”
What do ILH schools do with their behavior problems? Do they counsel them and provide the structure necessary to get them back on track?
Hell No!
They say “get outta hea, go back to wherevah you came from and by the way there’s no refunds on tuition.”
Kahuku nation, there’s no conspiracy at all. HHSAA is doing what it can to drive revenue period! This is the match up that the fans want to see. In order for Kahuku to repeat as state champions the road will have to go thru the ILH. No more cup cake games!
88 October 30, 2016 at 4:31 pm
Thank you 85 for posting the Boys State VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT rules for pairing/seeding that have been around since 1979. However we are talking about the Boys State FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT that has only been around since 1999. AND what does the State FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT say? Well, for the 1 DUMB person one here this is what the State FOOTBALL(Not VOLLEYBALL) tournament say: #1 & #2 seeds have first-round byes. Remaining teams will be paired and placed at sites by the committee. How are the State FOOTBALL BRACKETS set up? Well, for the 1 DUMB person on here this is what the State FOOTBALL(not VOLLEYBALL) tournament say: #1 seed plays winner of #4 and who ever the committee puts against them and the #2 seed gets the winner of the #3 and who ever the committee puts against them. If KAHUKU and St. LOUIS is #s 1 and 2 who do you think is #3 and what BRACKET does #3 fall into? You can’t be that DUMB. For someone who makes fun of High School kids test scores i would love to see yours.
DUMBASS (88 aka toomeke aka anywaays), this is the selection process for ALL TEAM SPORTS (not individual ones such as cross country, wrestling, judo, track and field).
You are so dumb it’s unbelievable. Come on and tell us the truth. You are playing right? I mean no one can be this stupid. Please tell us you are playing with us. I am starting to worry that a human being is this fricken stupid.
Moderator, can we please eliminate 88 from these blogs? If you allow him to continue to post, he might make the entire SA Blogging Nation dumber since his attempt to write will have a negative effect on people’s brains.
I will put this into Leyman’s Terms for 88. This is straight from the secretary for the HHSAA. I emailed info@HHSAA.org. I asked for the language that they used for selection of the Open Division. This is the exact language I was sent.
88, would you please cite your source for reference? Oh, I forgot, you are making your crap up again.
88, when will you learn. You NEED to cite your sources to provide validity to your posts. But I notice you never do that.
And for the record, there was no SBAC when I went to school since I neither attended a public school in the SBAC did not exist in the 70’s.
But the SAT did and my combine score was 1450. Yes I know, it’s not as high as your alter-ego, anywaaays, but I did not have a mommy that allowed me to correct her college level papers.
Tell your mommy I said hello.
And please, for the sake of God, stop making up stuff, especially when you have no source to authenticate your claims.