According to USA Today’s high school sports scoring predictor (and just about everyone else), the nation’s No. 1-ranked team, Bishop Gorman, has the advantage against No. 17 Kahuku.
USA Today’s interactive game simulator predicts the Gaels to defeat the Red Raiders, 41-14. It uses data to compare the two teams and plays multiple simulations to determine the most likely result.
Bishop Gorman is 37-10 against non-Nevada opponents since 2004. The last time the Gaels lost to a Hawaii team was in 1968 at home to a Farrington team quarterbacked by Randy Cadiente, 26-7.
With kickoff about 48 hours away, what say you? What are your predictions for Saturday’s heavyweight showdown?
BG 21
Kahuku 28
Predict 14 of those pts from special teams and defense
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No amount of data can measure Pride and Determination. GO BIG RED!
That’s why they play the game on the field!!
Athletics 1st, and Academics First; no change from yesterday I’m still at our Red Raiders by 14 points; Tate and Ali Walsh butterflies must be doing the colonoscropy preparation from yesterday.
Need to hit the reality button!! Gorman will runaway from Kahuku. The only way it’s going to be close is if Bishop Gorman is looking past Kahuku to the following week when they play St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida. This will be the only way it stays around 14-20 points with Gorman with the win. Understand that this isn’t Gormans first rodeo. They play Liberty every year and they smash Liberty. This is where Vae Tata got his offense from. Tata saw how Liberty ran all over Mililani with this jumbo package. That’s when he realized that he just foound away to beat Mililani. And yes they did beat Mililani and whooped the Crusaders up and down the field but everybody in the state knows and won’t admit it, that if Milton never got hurt then it would’ve been back to back state champs for Mililani. I wish and hope the best for Big Red this Saturday!!
Kahuku 21
Bishop Gorman 17
Kahuku will use ball control and run the ball just like last years state final vs Saint Louis. Defense will step up and force 4 turnovers
liberty doesnt run a double TE wildcat smash mouth, Tata got it from stanford 4years ago. After Kahuku beats gorman with it liberty will copy it as a blueprint just like how farrington, kam and waianae are starting to use it.
Kahuku 21
Gorman 20
Dont underestimate heart and mana…considering Kahuku put 27 players through the NFL to Gormans 5, I think nothing is impossible.
Data Simulator? My ass! And you wonder why the world that we live in is in absolute chaos. People trust and believe a damned computer instead of its own (mankind), that’s messed up. RR trust and believe in their teammates along with their coaches and the awesome 12th man. All love and heart as they represent all of the 808, their respective communities and families. Now THAT…is the difference between the Kahuku Red Raiders and the rest of the High School Football World. Good luck to all the boys and all the way around to the Bishop Gorman Gaels. But hell, I gotta give it to our boys, leave it all in the field. RR4L” Baby!!! You got this!!! One love and peace out!!!
Kahuku – 22
Bishop Gorman – 17
I noticed with Gorman and a lot of the mainland teams there’s a lot of showboating lol! Guess that’s how they get prepared for the NFL…
@89
Didn’t Liberty get smashed by St LuLu last year? And then didn’t St LuLu get smashed by Big Red same year?
Doh!!
I hope Kahuku can pull off an upset. Gotta support the boys from Hawaii and the OIA!!
However, I do feel BG will run away with this one. Kahuku could only muster up 21 pts against Waianae, arguably one of the better defensive teams they played this season. BG has to be waaaay better then Waianae with more D1 prospects on both sides of the ball, better coaching, more speed at all levels on the defense / offense and an offense that isn’t one dimensional. I think BG will score fast and often which will make Kahuku stray away from the smash mouth and cause them to play from behind putting the game in the 9th grade prospects hands.
I think Gorman takes it 49 – 12
Easy with the backlash and no ones hating, cause as I stated in another post, I acknowledge that Kahuku is football king here in Hawaii, the school that everyone is catching and striving to be like.
I predict Kahuku will go there and just put on a clinic of hard hitting..
Kahuku , no chance on the road, 48- 14, Bishop Gorman, remember, Bishop Gorman #1 in the U.S. A., but Punahou or St. Louis will be ready if Kahuku does make the final this year. Bishop Gorman , just to strong for Kahuku.
Somebody keep an eye on Coach Tata. Keep him off the free alcohol & out of the drivers seat.
Will there be anyplace we can watch this game? Online? Streaming? Fox Sports West? Mahalo.
Kahuku’s schedule is very weak compare to the ILH, Kahuku’s tough opponent was Saint Louis last year, although Saint Louis did lose, their schedule was by far harder than Kahuku’s, Saint Louis played Kamehameha, and Punahou Three times to make the finals, Kahuku was much rested. Hopefully next year they can put Kahuku in this bracket with the following teams, Kamehameha, Punahou, Saint Louis, Mililani, Waianae, Farrington, Kapolei, Leilehua, let’s just try this schedule and see what happens, i bet Kahuku would get it least two losses in a season.
I just pray for a clean game with no injuries to those Hawaii Kids cause they do have games back here in Hawaii
What’s the line on this game?
@Oia everyone on your list ,Kahuku beat.Except Kam & Puns.So are you saying Kahuku would lose to Kamehameha or Punahou ? I Doubt that. Kahuku beat Sanit Louis, who already beat those two. Ca’mon,stop with your excuses. Its 2016. Get over it.They lost. New year. RR4L GO BiG RED!!!
I refuse to believe that the BIG RED from Kahuku will lose to BG and am quite disappointed at many of the comments claiming that the Big Red will get blown out ……no way……Kahuku is just as physical and will wear down Martell et. co. by the 4th qtr. and eventually upset Bishop Gorman……nothing more and nothing less.
Kahuku 17 – Gaels 14
WIN, LOSE, OR TIE…I could CARELESS…they MADE it there…THAT’s ALL THAT MATTERs…LEAVE IT ON THE FIELD…& LET THE BOYs PLAYING…SPEAK FOR ITSELF…as for me…I am a KahukuRedRaider Faithful!!! #HatersInspire #HateMotivatesUs #EnemyOfState #ButReppinThat808
@89 with or without Milton getting hurt they still would have lost, their O-line was nowhere as good as the year they won. Why do you think he got hurt in the first place! O line unable to protect him. Besides that’s no excuse, kahuku didn’t even have a QB all year! But guess who had the only touchdown pass in the championship game. But as BG coach said, need to teach your boys how to deal and overcome adversity..
Moving past the game….. win or lose, after playing BG I don’t think there is an offensive(except for Tua…. just Tua), defensive or even coaching threat for Kahuku when they get back. Their the #1 team in the state, they just played #1 in the country. . . The competition here including ilh is alot less then what they just went through. Do they return home weaker? Or stronger for it? If stl or puns were in Kahuku’s shoes I would ask the same question…. this is just my perspective, BG wins….. nothing changes nationally. But for the #1 team in the hawaii it’s probably the best practice, training, PreOpen Div warmup any team could ask for. Other then Tua, BG will give Kahuku the best at every position they will see this year….
oia – even cal lee said it…the ILH is a passing league, meaning they use space to minimize contact and its basically a flag football game where only 2 people sweat…the QB and the WR he throws too…when they got to the title game they were not used to the pounding that kahuku put on them. Kahuku plays waianae Farrington Mililani and kapolei, all bangaz, kahuku was banged up all through the OIA playoffs and state title game, kesi sprained ankle, 2 other running backs sprained knees. The OIA is more physical and thats what cal lee said…and he said the reason for the alliance with the OIA is so that the ILH teams can get used to the physicality during the season. so bu, Kahuku never did have a cakewalk to any of their 9 titles, its just the ILH crying about coming in 2nd to a poor OIA school
WTH!!! I take that prediction as a total insult! BG ain’t going dominate or blow out like that score they said. Who those haoles think they are? …and playing against?? Fricken embarrassing prediction… how about Kahuku 21, BG 17.
If you had viewed the recent St John Bosco vs Bishop Gorman game tape you would have seen BG’s running back Braggio Ali Walsh getting banged up and taken out with leg injury; so Big Red Defense will do the same that’s for sure.
How can we watch the game in Hawaii
Coaching will be the difference……Good luck to both teams.
Lol…what a joke USA and you also predict BG was going to lose the game in Texas 2 weeks ago and BG won. So you and Mr OIA who’s tender feeling are still hurt cause power house Kahuku beat thier team by 35 points can just chill shut the hell up. Compare apples to apples Kahuku is right up there with BG. The difference is? BG has never been hit hard before. Kahuku is fast strong, and powerful. I have Kahuku winning 44-14
The test for Kahuku is going to be whether it will be able to contain the speed of Bishop Gorman on defense and on special teams. Big Red completely dominated a very talented Crusader team last year and Tate Martell is not at the same talent level of a Tua Tagavailoa. However, BG has much more speed and talent at RB and WR than St. Louis. That is going to be the key. The Big Red machine will grind out yards on the ground and BG will get beaten down. Kahuku just can’t give up the big plays and fall behind early. Kahuku 27, Bishop Gorman 24.
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Kickoff is scheduled for 7pm Pacific time (4pm Hawaii)
“even cal lee said it…the ILH is a passing league, meaning they use space to minimize contact and its basically a flag football game where only 2 people sweat”
If you think that passing offenses are flag football where “only 2 people sweat,” then you know nothing about football.
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al September 16, 2016 at 5:35 am
“even cal lee said it…the ILH is a passing league, meaning they use space to minimize contact and its basically a flag football game where only 2 people sweat”
If you think that passing offenses are flag football where “only 2 people sweat,” then you know nothing about football.
Passing in the ILH isn’t necessarily just to avoid contact. Majority of these ILH schools produce athletes to prepare for a “college scheme” offense. They QB & WR’s read defenses & adjust to the coverage by changing plays or running different routes.
Running the ball in the OIA gives no opportunity to athletes in “Run First” type offenses. Kahuku or Waianae in particular produces only linemen for the next level. These offenses can put a decent runner behind 5 skilled, well sized bodies to run behind.
May seem like a “night & day” offensive situation between both leagues but its been this way for decades. OIA schools just run the ball & there is no top tier RB’s produced. ILH is a “throw heavy” league & produce offensive athletes. 90% of it has to do with being college eligible but that’s a whole different conversation.
ILH = Pass League Offense
OIA = Pop Warner Offense
I am all for Hawaii kids & opportunity. And I hope that this Kahuku team does well against Gorman. But reading these comments is pure Hawaii pride at its finest & some just straight up stupidity. I see prediction scores only favoring Kahuku & not one person giving BG any credit. Everyone wants to compare a Basco game rather than remember when a #1 DeLa Salle, #2 Cal Poly or #1 BG flew down here to play our teams. Nobody took notice that they flew here & blew out all our teams. Regardless of BG beating STL by 12 or DeLa Salle beating STL by 10. Those 2 games had alot of 4th qtr “garbage TDs”. The score was a blow out prior to that. Poly vs Kahuku was a walking joke. Everyone pays more attention to the final score rather than the in game details. If anyone was paying attention DeLa Salle, Poly & BG were convincingly way faster on the edge & off the ball than our teams. They are longer on the matchups & their preparation to way more advanced than our Hawaii schools. Did anyone take notice who Kahuku played prior to this Gorman game? STL isn’t one of them because that was a year ago. Kahuku doesn’t have the same personnel as a year ago. Just saying they are Hawaii’s defending state champs & nationally ranked means nothing when you step out on the field.
For Kahuku & Hawaii this is a great opportunity to show the world that Kahuku has a solid program. And hopefully they make an impact to where next level recruiters can come to Hawaii to recruit kids. But if you ask me for a prediction on this game. I got BG by 3 scores against Kahuku. Too much speed, too outmatched player for player & they’ll be out coached.
@808savage….. you said “May seem like a “night & day” offensive situation between both leagues but its been this way for decades. OIA schools just run the ball & there is no top tier RB’s produced. ILH is a “throw heavy” league & produce offensive athletes. 90% of it has to do with being college eligible but that’s a whole different conversation.
ILH = Pass League Offense
OIA = Pop Warner Offense
Aside from Mariota (stl), Tatupu (Puns) and O-linman what other offense athletes we talking bout? oia/ilh are pretty even with players making it to the league.
IMO it doesn’t matter what offense any team has…… “Defense wins Championships”
Bishop Gorman 35-7
Running game won’t be able to score for kahuku.
@Alpha
Aside from Mariota (stl), Tatupu (Puns) and O-linman what other offense athletes we talking bout? oia/ilh are pretty even with players making it to the league.
IMO it doesn’t matter what offense any team has…… “Defense wins Championships”
If you’re referring to “next level” as being “the league” than we clearly know why 90% of OIA athletes aren’t qualified to go to the “next level” meaning COLLEGE. Now when I gave my definition as to why ILH passes the ball & people calling it a “Pass League” its because you don’t see College schools running a offense like Kahuku or Waianae. You think all of Mililani’s athletes last year would have got the recruiting hype if they ran a offense like Kahuku or Waianae? I highly doubt it. But if you really want to name players & “next level” existence. Since we’re on the subject of “offenses” & “athletes”. Tell me, Kahuku has been a “running team” for 2-3 decades with well named all state RB’s. Tell me where did these guys go after high school compared to the Punahou & STL athletes you’ve mentioned.
Kahuku: Natoa, Aalona, Salanoa, Pula, Hafoka, Manumaleuna, Fiatoa.
These are all ALL STATE players. Is this what you mean by the comparisons of athletes in both leagues? And you telling me that both leagues are pretty much “even” on getting kids to the “next level” ? Kahuku’s top recruit this season is a DB. Is any Kahuku RBs, WRs or OLine on the recruiting watch?
Kahuku will do well in the first quarter with a couple successful drives. After that, BG will adjust and plug those gaps. It’ll force Kahuku out of their element or typical game plan… they’ll need to look to the passing game. Unfortunately, the Kahuku WRs’ speed doesn’t match up with BG secondary speed. So, passing will also be shut down.
As for BG offense compared to Kahuku, BG is well balanced. I believe Kahuku will see speed from the skill positions like they’ve never seen before from the local schools they played.
Hey…. good luck to both! Unfortunately for the record book, only one team can walk away and claim the WIN.
Win or loose this is a good exposure for Hawaii kids. Of course I’m with Kahuku and I would love to see them get this one.
Kahuku 30
Gorman 21
I Believe 🙂
Bishop Gorman (-17)
@808savage… the reason I referred to the league as “next level” is because Football is the subject here. . . And making it to the league shows who completed the journey no matter oia/ilh…. and, why are you only bringing up Kahuku and the rb’s? I’m talking oia as a whole, and Football as the common denominator. Yes…. I agree, private schools definitely preps and sends more kids to college compared to public schools. But “Football Players” from both oia/ilh I belive are equally represented at the professional football level… and since your dropping names of former oia players, can you name the same amount of ilh “WR” that made it to the league. They most likely went to college and went on to have great careers outside of the game. But we talking football from h.s, college and pros….