Score Prediction: Bishop Gorman vs. Kahuku

Kahuku's Stokes Nihipali-Botelho intercepted a pass against Waianae earlier this season. Photo by Bruce Asato/Star-Advertiser.
Kahuku’s Stokes Nihipali-Botelho intercepted a pass against Waianae earlier this season. Photo by Bruce Asato/Star-Advertiser.

According to USA Today’s high school sports scoring predictor (and just about everyone else), the nation’s No. 1-ranked team, Bishop Gorman, has the advantage against No. 17 Kahuku.

USA Today’s interactive game simulator predicts the Gaels to defeat the Red Raiders, 41-14. It uses data to compare the two teams and plays multiple simulations to determine the most likely result.


Bishop Gorman is 37-10 against non-Nevada opponents since 2004. The last time the Gaels lost to a Hawaii team was in 1968 at home to a Farrington team quarterbacked by Randy Cadiente, 26-7.


With kickoff about 48 hours away, what say you? What are your predictions for Saturday’s heavyweight showdown?

COMMENTS

  1. Alpha September 16, 2016 10:01 am

    @savage808…. H.S kids don’t get recruited because of the system they play in…..


  2. rrforlifebaby September 16, 2016 10:35 am

    3 funny some of the commenting here. This is about predicting the score, and people ranting about other stuff….lol.
    The biggest difference in this game is Speed. Big Red is fast, but BG has more overall team speed at pretty much every position. Let’s put this in perspective, Slade-Matuatia from St Louis is fast, the kid who went from Mililani to BG is way faster(imho). Garrett on BG’s Dline ran down a backfield player from SBJ last week. I think Tua is a better overall qb than Martell, but Martell looks faster. As far as I’m concerned, there aren’t too many, if any receivers/Tight ends here in the islands who match up to the skill set and speed of BG’s.
    With that being said, imho, none of the teams BG has played this year has the same physicality that Big Red does. Not saying that Cedar Hill or SBJ aren’t big physical teams, but the physicality that Big Red brings is something else.
    If Big Red can keep BG from running off big plays, successfully mix in some passing while pounding the rock, and come up with big plays on special teams, I like our chances of an upset.
    Big Red 28 (Yes, I’m a Homer)
    BG 24
    If not, then it’s gona be a long night for our Boiz and back to work next week and get ready for the next opponent!

    RRFL!!
    GO BIG RED!!!


  3. Where's the ILH Bashers? September 16, 2016 12:46 pm

    It’s so quiet. I only hear the crickets. How quick the ILH bashers chime in when RR plays an ILH team. Where are those bashers now? Why aren’t they bashing BG? Hmmm…. they only bash the teams they think they can beat, but they don’t bash the teams they think they might lose to… isn’t that almost like a definition for a coward? Kinda like a kid picking on the little kids at school, but when the bull of the school comes around… he hides under a rock.

    C’mon, BG does the same thing as the ILH teams do… so let’s hear it!


  4. 808Savage September 16, 2016 1:05 pm

    Alpha September 16, 2016 at 9:39 am
    @808savage… the reason I referred to the league as “next level” is because Football is the subject here. . . And making it to the league shows who completed the journey no matter oia/ilh…. and, why are you only bringing up Kahuku and the rb’s? I’m talking oia as a whole, and Football as the common denominator. Yes…. I agree, private schools definitely preps and sends more kids to college compared to public schools. But “Football Players” from both oia/ilh I belive are equally represented at the professional football level… and since your dropping names of former oia players, can you name the same amount of ilh “WR” that made it to the league. They most likely went to college and went on to have great careers outside of the game. But we talking football from h.s, college and pros….

    This is not baseball where high school kids can get drafted out of high school & their mindset is “the league”. You cannot refer to “the league” & a “high school program”. Than say players don’t get recruited because of their “system” that they play in. In this day & age there are a lot of offseason camps that you can get “recruited” out of. But what you fail to admit constantly is that they don’t have grades, can’t pass an SAT, can’t have qualified high school classes to get to the next level. And i agree, making it to “the league” shows the journey but you can’t skip steps to the journey. The players I mentioned is just to name a few.


  5. Paper Crane September 16, 2016 1:09 pm

    Closing the books and this is final: Kahuku Red Raiders 28 and Bishop Gorman 19.


  6. Alpha September 16, 2016 1:55 pm

    @savage808….. did you not read my last sentence when you copied and paste? The journey is exactly what I’m talking about…. since you were able to provide oia names who didn’t complete the football journey, I asked if you can do the same for ilh wr…… again… From H.S.->COLLEGE->PROS….


  7. tee September 16, 2016 2:32 pm

    Gorman over Kahuku 67-0


  8. Manley September 16, 2016 2:38 pm

    Hope highschoolrewind can handle the Internet load. Will hawaii prep world have live threads?


  9. Alpha September 16, 2016 3:05 pm

    Where’s the ILH Bashers? September 16, 2016 at 12:46 pm
    It’s so quiet. I only hear the crickets. How quick the ILH bashers chime in when RR plays an ILH team. Where are those bashers now? Why aren’t they bashing BG? Hmmm…. they only bash the teams they think they can beat, but they don’t bash the teams they think they might lose to… isn’t that almost like a definition for a coward? Kinda like a kid picking on the little kids at school, but when the bull of the school comes around… he hides under a rock.

    C’mon, BG does the same thing as the ILH teams do… so let’s hear it!

    Yes….. totally correct, now don’t forget your paper and pen Saturday so you can take notes. So when those cowards come home you’ll be able to defend yourself at states…. Let’s thank BG for the lesson their about to teach the ilh…… like I said before…. win or lose, Kahuku just played the toughest team in the nation. . . Other then Tua, their going to laugh at who lines up in front of them next…..


  10. Rich September 16, 2016 3:35 pm

    Kahuku wins 38-24


  11. Where's the ILH Bashers? September 16, 2016 4:06 pm

    @ Alpha

    The point I was getting at…. is when I going hear these ILH bashers talk do-do about BG? How come the only pick on the weak (per their perspective)? Why aren’t they bashing BG? BG probably does more recruiting than the ILH does…

    All I’m saying is don’t all of a sudden stop bashing because you going play a good team. That’s weak…


  12. 87 September 16, 2016 4:15 pm

    bg is a game we chose to test ourselves, its like an exhibition game, preseason like that dont matter. its clear bg is way more skilled bcause their goal is to be a national power so they prepare themselves like a college team with big boosters, recruiting and resources, they go out and compete with the best in the nation. why does kahuku care about the differences? we dont.we kno wecant compare

    ILH on the other hand does what bg does but stays in their little comfort zone and pick on the little OIA kids, so much so that now they want to be in the same conference and pretend that all is equal. no respect for elitists that want to feel good about beating down on the under priviledge.

    i say Stlouis should invest millions to get on bgs level, set their goals on national competition to represent hawaii, then i think the OIA families would actually support all the elite recruiting to Stlouis bcause that talent would be representing hawaii instead of turning around and pounding the same OIA teams that these elite kids are from


  13. Jason Keuma September 16, 2016 4:45 pm

    I am not an ILH basher, but I am not a supporter either. Would the ILH extend reduced tuition to these same student-athletes if they didn’t play football? No, they would not. Yes the ILH recruits, so does BG, maybe not the same way. From what I read, the talent wants to go there. There is some really nice stuff there.

    They play the game for a reason. Last year all the “experts” at Cover 2 picked St Louis to win, except Brian Teo, he picked Kahuku. What happened? They played the game, and the outcome is not written in stone by the commentators. I remember the coin toss, St louis must have sent out the biggest players on the team, or so it seamed. #65 and #70 comes to mind. My wife commented about the size of the players.

    One thing BG and the ILH may have in common. When the outcome is inevitable, the fans probably start leaving. This can go either way. If it is a lockdown win, leave. If it is a definite loss, leave. (St. Louis, State championship 2015). The difference is that Kahuku fans stay till the end, to hold hands and sing the alma matter, there is the biggest difference. I will be watching. I have recorded my college team last week, and even though they lost, I still watched it till the end, I am a fan. Win or loose, I am a fan. I am proud that they are on the same field. I am positive they will do their best, and then some.

    I have said in the past, people using their real names post more positive comments and are more polite.


  14. al September 16, 2016 5:21 pm

    @jason Keuma “Would the ILH extend reduced tuition to these same student-athletes if they didn’t play football? ”

    If they passed the interviews and admissions tests and so on, then they would get need based financial aid like everyone else and an invite. HAIS schools don’t give athletic scholarships and financial aid for a school like punahou goes to a third party application process. A low income student who is not an athlete would get financial aid, and a star athlete from a rich family won’t.

    In terms of actual preferential admissions for athletes, you’re gonna need to bring up some evidence that Punahou (we’ll use them becuase they’re the most well known private school) recruits and scholarships (again, no such thing) athletes for their sports teams.

    “One thing BG and the ILH may have in common. When the outcome is inevitable, the fans probably start leaving. This can go either way. If it is a lockdown win, leave. If it is a definite loss, leave. (St. Louis, State championship 2015). The difference is that Kahuku fans stay till the end, to hold hands and sing the alma matter, there is the biggest difference.”

    ILH schools do this too. Don’t pretend that only Kahuku has a monopoly on this kind of stuff. ILH communities, especially Punahou and Kamehameha, are one of the strongest in the state. There’s a lot of inferiority complexes with the Kahuku fans who post on this blog. Don’t be one of them.

    Let’s all support Kahuku when they play BG. Let’s all support our high school athletes, regardless of their schools. anything else is pathetic and sad.


  15. Tutu Kane Ale September 16, 2016 5:58 pm

    Vision, insight, like I’ve had these constant future flashes whereas a buy out upgrade change to KAHUKU BYU HIGH SCHOOL, a public high school becoming Hawaii’s number one in academics and athletics; yet still they’ll be haters talking jealousy trash;…very very possible?


  16. Jason Keuma September 16, 2016 6:10 pm

    Fan support? I didn’t see it on the St. Louis side in November, they were funneling out of the stadium. The tv announcers were talking about a brotherhood that St. Louis shares.

    thanks for the stats.


  17. TGOD September 16, 2016 6:12 pm

    My mind is saying BG 38 Kahuku 24.
    My heart is saying and will be rooting for a 808 state Kahuku victory, 28 to 27!


  18. AUWE September 16, 2016 6:45 pm

    . There’s a lot of inferiority complexes with the Kahuku fans who post on this blog. Don’t be one of them

    Ummmm I think it’s more of ILH with inferiority complexes. Always putting down OIA league in general.. Private schools don’t live by the same by laws as OIA schools. Not to mention the funding and boosters, if all those student athletes had to pay their own full tuition to a private school. Hmmmm this wouldn’t even be a topic of conversation. The OIA would be the supreme league hands down. The Waianaes, farringtons, and majority of the OIA teams would never have seen a drop off in competition in any year if all their kids stayed home to play. So with all the advantages the ILH has over the OIA it seems that still isn’t enough lmao, we gonna cater to you guys even more with this new format?? When will it end lol??? Put yourselves in da OIA’s shoes. Then you might realize where we coming from.

    Anyways! Good Luck Big Red


  19. Alpha September 16, 2016 7:03 pm

    Tomorrow night….. Hawaii your up…. good luck and safe travels.


  20. al September 16, 2016 7:04 pm

    @jason keuma “Fan support? I didn’t see it on the St. Louis side in November, they were funneling out of the stadium. The tv announcers were talking about a brotherhood that St. Louis shares.”

    You took one instance during a televised game and the projected it onto the entire ILH? Kahuku has amazing community support, no doubt. But so do other schools. Including ILH. and there are a lot of public schools (and private) who have poor community support as well.

    The point I’m making is that there are a lot of people trashing ILH and OIA for whatever reason. test scores, alleged recruiting allegations, envy/anger at who they perceive as the haves vs have nots, whatever. I’m saying that this is all crap created by the ADULTS not the kids who are actually playing. It’s the same thing like that one poster was talking about. Bottom line is the support of the kids no matter what school they go to.

    Not every Kahuku student is an idiot who stares at the ceiling and only thinks “football” when he should be paying attention in class. Not every ILH player is some spoiled preppy rich kid or section 8 kid on a mythical athletic scholarship who was recruited and bought by some booster. And no, the HAIS and ILH aren’t out to get the OIA, no matter how much you guys want it to be true. The HHSAA is not a shadowy cartel dedicated to screwing over public education. The new state tournament is a little weird but I haven’t heard a single coach or player go on record saying they’re against it. Most people can’t wait to play.

    Just enjoy the game, enjoy the kids, and enjoy football season and support whoever you support.


  21. AUWE September 16, 2016 7:39 pm

    At the same token not every ILH athlete has a full ride to a private school, nor do I think any of them do, hats off to the parents who makes a lot of sacrifices for their kids to attend one, it’s not easy especially in Hawaii where the cost of living is ridiculous!


  22. Kirby Wright September 17, 2016 8:20 am

    KAHUKU by 6. I

    f I’m not mistaken, Colt Brennan is associated with the Red Raiders, perhaps as their QB coach?


  23. Kawika September 17, 2016 12:33 pm

    Bishop Gorman by 50 at least. 61-3.


  24. Manley September 17, 2016 5:02 pm

    Kawika. Halftime Gorman 14 Kahuku 7……given that home team always gives 7, the game is tied.


  25. anywaaaays!! September 18, 2016 2:22 pm

    Its a wrap – final score BG 35 Kahuku 07

    BG was as good as advertised and Kahuku flat out got sassa’d, no excuses for Big red just come home and get better. We proud to be RR4L!!


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