Kaiser forfeits game against Mililani

Kaiser football parent Gregory Tartamella, who was found guilty of two felonies and two petty misdemeanors last Friday, will be sentenced May 8. At that time, he and his lawyer Eric Seitz will make a decision on whether to appeal. Cindy Ellen Russell / Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

Kaiser’s varsity football team will not play a scheduled game for the second week in a row, according to a source close to the situation.

The Cougars’ varsity and junior varsity games at Mililani on Friday night have been canceled. The results will go in the books as forfeits by Kaiser, which has been having difficulties fielding enough varsity players to safely play an Oahu Interscholastic Association game.

A few weeks ago, Kaiser principal Justin Mew announced that the Cougars’ varsity team would play a modified schedule this season. It was one way of saying the team would likely be forfeiting games. It is believed that Kaiser has 19 varsity players and seven of those are temporarily ineligible.


Last Friday, the Cougars’ scheduled nonleague game at Roosevelt was canceled. That game was not considered a forfeit because it was not considered a regular-season game that counts in the standings.


Due to this latest development, Mililani’s first game of the season won’t be until Aug. 18 at home against Leilehua (1-0). That will be the OIA opener for both teams.


Kaiser, which will be 0-1 after this week, may get on the field for its first official game against Radford (0-1) on Aug. 19. That game, if played, will also be the Rams’ first game of the season and take place at Radford.

According to the source, the Kaiser administration made the decision to cancel Friday’s varsity and JV games at Mililani.

COMMENTS

  1. Crackseed August 8, 2017 1:23 am

    Why is JV cancelled? I thought they had 35 players or more. Maybe they should cancel both V and JV.


  2. RECRUITOrDIE August 8, 2017 7:41 am

    This is so unfair to the teams that waste their time scheduling a game with a incompetent school who should have applied to have been a D2 competitor this season. Your committee will forever be known for the biggest blunder of firing the best coach you will ever have in Rich Miano and his Championship developing staff. You won’t recover ever, so just fold your football program so the children can go to where they will be competing and earning scholarships, that’s what it’s about because you aren’t going to earn s#%+ or learn anything forfeiting in life. Chew on that Kaiser committee! #KeepDiggingGraves4Students


  3. rrforlifebaby August 8, 2017 8:12 am

    Sad for the kids that turned out, but the school should just save everyone the drama, forget about this season and build for next year. Although, I thought the jv had enough players????

    Imho, Rich Miano was the worst thing that could’ve happened for Kaiser football. All Miano did was expose the issue of recruiting players to a public school. Without a solid core of neighborhood kids year in and year out(like Kahuku, or the Ewa area, or Kalihi, or even Mililani now), what Miano did was completely unsustainable.

    RRFL!


  4. Coach C August 8, 2017 8:52 am

    Come on. A great program needs to have great programs from pee wee up. Kaiser didn’t have that but when Miano got those great teams, the stands were filled with kids that wanted to be Cougars for life. Now it’s back to band and robotics. Nothing wrong with that,hehe, but what is wrong with an alumni trying to get it going? Oh,he recruited? Wow.


  5. bu-lyah August 8, 2017 8:53 am

    RecruitorDie– Miano had no choice but to either resign or get fired due to illegal recruiting from outer island and all over oahu. Then you had Ikei running a business on school grounds, also illegal. Their whole program was getting investigated? You can thank Kaiser and well, Mililani too. That year they both won, but more so Kaiser for the sit-out one year transferring rule in effect for OIA because they were “recruiting” from all over the state. Why do you think they all left as they did after winning a D2 title… c’mon now! It’s unfortunate now on what’s happening with the program. Hope they look into going down to D2 now instead of canning the program.


  6. OIA Grad August 8, 2017 12:04 pm

    Fire all the athletic directors in the OIA. Two years ago they turned down $30K for each school. This year 6 teams are going to be left out of the playoffs just so the ILH gets only 1 slot. It’s not about the kids anymore. It’s adults playing politics, acting like they’re doing it for the kids. The OIA division is sad and these A.D.’s need to get out!!! I’m an OIA grad but you gotta admit that the ILH teams as a whole are better. If the OIA wants to do something, then change the recruiting rules. Until then, let the kids play and do all you can to get them a shot at winning it all.


  7. phILHarmonic August 8, 2017 12:22 pm

    ” Howzit? My name is Coach___________, would you like to play with a bunch of players that will make you better and a play for a coaching staff that help you to fulfill your potential as a football player as well as a person? I cant offer you any money or promises but I can tell you that if you want to have a chance at a championship and use football as a vehicle to earn a scholarship, your best chance is at ________________High School”.

    Name that Coach. lol.


  8. Education First August 8, 2017 12:46 pm

    bu-lyah August 8, 2017 8:53 am
    RecruitorDie– Miano had no choice but to either resign or get fired due to illegal recruiting from outer island and all over oahu. Then you had Ikei running a business on school grounds, also illegal. Their whole program was getting investigated? You can thank Kaiser and well, Mililani too. That year they both won, but more so Kaiser for the sit-out one year transferring rule in effect for OIA because they were “recruiting” from all over the state. Why do you think they all left as they did after winning a D2 title… c’mon now! It’s unfortunate now on what’s happening with the program. Hope they look into going down to D2 now instead of canning the program.
    ———————
    Actually if Mr. Ikei filled out the proper use of facility contracts, then made the appropriate payment, all while paying taxes, he could run his business using Kaiser’s facilities.


  9. Education First August 8, 2017 12:49 pm

    @ phILHarmonic… Man, if you were the coach at Kaiser, I could see about 100 kids playing, your Kaiser team competing with Kahuku for OIA dominance within 2 years and then overtaking St. Louis as the State Champion within 3. Eventually, your Kaiser program would be the new BG, taking HS football to heights never seen before.

    The DOE would build additional athletic facilities around the new football field to pay homage to someone with your vast football knowledge. I can even see you supplanting Nick Saban at Alabama and forcing him into early retirement, all within 6-8 years.


  10. anywaaaays!! August 8, 2017 2:28 pm

    phILHarmonic is talking about Cal Lee, or Kale Ane, or Rod york, or Miano. Take your pick!


  11. OH BOY!!!! August 8, 2017 4:27 pm

    OH BOY!!!

    Don’t forget When Miano was at Kaiser he got paid a full day for teaching just one class a day??!!
    Wot about the rest of da faculty who teach da whole day!
    TAXPAYERS MONEY WASTED!!!!

    Also Miano was housing a player from Maui! When a kid from Campbell H.S. had to catch a bus to Hawaii Kai!!!

    Kaiser did 2yrs in D1. 2017 Kaiser staff did ask to play in D2!!!
    But O.I.A. MADE no changes!!!

    ‘Iolani has to put one of their dbs on da d.line so they ask to go to D2.After 2yrs. of playing D1!
    Wot does I.L.H. do?
    Allow them to return to D2.
    I.L.H. cares about their KIDS!!!!!

    KIDS FIRST!!!!


  12. Shawnee Lyman August 8, 2017 6:45 pm

    I just find it funny that so many of you are spouting off about stuff you think you know about but not a SINGLE ONE of you has the balls or wherewithal to attach your REAL name to your comments. #ifyoucantalkthensignyournametoitorkeepittoyourself


  13. Outlaw August 8, 2017 9:40 pm

    Kaiser JV forfeit this week but they going play Radford, Moanalua, and Aiea. They may even win all 3 games, play the teams you can beat but forfeit against the better ones?!?!?!? C’mon Man!!!


  14. phILHarmonic August 9, 2017 9:49 am

    Sis, the peeps can be pretty savage on here. Especially if someone comes on spouting nonsense. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but the savageness is real here. Just a heads up.


  15. phILHarmonic August 9, 2017 2:48 pm

    ED 1st- I would hire you to be our Academic Advisor at Kaiser, with your vast knowledge and expertise in academia and business, then, when I move on to Alabama, you will come along with me like a Defries to Meyer and we will win many championships. At that point, you will have donated enough money to the RRFL that their testing scores will surpass the national average and there will be an excess of lawyers and doctors coming out of RR Land.


  16. Alpha August 9, 2017 6:34 pm

    Was Kaiser expecting a surge of players to come out over the summer? Martinez should of known before schedules was set if he was going to have enough to field a team.


  17. phILHarmonic August 10, 2017 8:46 am

    Do you think this is the coach’s attempt at leveraging his team back into Division II? until he can build the program backup to Division I?


  18. Education First August 11, 2017 12:25 pm

    phILHarmonic August 9, 2017 2:48 pm
    ED 1st- I would hire you to be our Academic Advisor at Kaiser, with your vast knowledge and expertise in academia and business, then, when I move on to Alabama, you will come along with me like a Defries to Meyer and we will win many championships. At that point, you will have donated enough money to the RRFL that their testing scores will surpass the national average and there will be an excess of lawyers and doctors coming out of RR Land.
    ————————–
    Thank you! I will be your tar baby! We would be famous!


  19. Education First August 11, 2017 12:26 pm

    On the real, I don’t think money will change the current academic state at Kahuku. It will only change if the parent’s shift their focus from football to academics. I don’t think many have the integrity. Without football, many do not have an identity.


  20. Shawnee Lyman August 11, 2017 12:53 pm

    My real concern and question is not why kids don’t want to come out to play (for whatever reason), but more importantly, WHY are so many of the kids, who have chosen to play, on Academic Probation? When my older son played for Rich Miano, the program had study hall, EVERY day before practice in the cafeteria, where they did their homework and had volunteer tutors available to them. I don’t recall having those kinds of numbers of kids on AP at any given time. Seems to me that parents, the administration, and the coach need to collectively rectify that matter first. No grades, no play. 😔


  21. Shawnee Lyman August 12, 2017 12:36 am

    @phILHarmonic
    Savage or not, I come from the thinking that if you (not you specifically, just anyone) feel strongly about something, or have something to say, then stand by your words. This anonymity is exactly what’s wrong with this comment section. Maybe people would be more diplomatic in their thinking if they had to identify themselves, therefore making for a more constructive and productive conversation, vs. just running at the mouth. Keyboard warriors no can. Have a great weekend! A🌈L🌴O🌺H🤙🏽A


  22. iceebear August 12, 2017 7:45 pm

    Well, no one is commenting on how risk of CTE and if it is beginning to affect turnout. I predict that this will snowball in the years to come and could have a huge effect on football at this and other levels going forward. I actually was on the first JV and Varsity football teams at Kaiser, was a starter and got plenty of practice and playing time. One thing that was different from my dad’s and grandfather’s time playing football (high school and college) in the 1920s and 1940s, is that they were taught to use their shoulders and not heads, partially due to the limited protection of head gear (leather helmets). When I played in high school in the 1970s, you were taught to lead and hit with your head and I had “my bell rung” several times. I am wondering if my decline in memory and increased lability as I get older is not just a function of age, etc., but the result of some CTE. Despite my family tradition of playing and following football, I cannot see having my son doing the same, so I have him in TKD as an alternative and will only allow him the participate in low risk to the brain high school sports. BTW, his TKD school does not allow hits to the head.


  23. iceebear August 12, 2017 7:48 pm

    Well, no one is commenting about the risk of CTE and if it is beginning to affect turnout. I predict that this will snowball in the years to come and could have a huge effect on football at this and other levels going forward. I actually was on the first JV and Varsity football teams at Kaiser, was a starter and got plenty of practice and playing time. One thing that was different from my dad’s and grandfather’s time playing football (high school and college) in the 1920s and 1940s, is that they were taught to use their shoulders and not heads, partially due to the limited protection of head gear (leather helmets). When I played in high school in the 1970s, you were taught to lead and hit with your head and I had “my bell rung” several times. I am wondering if my decline in memory and increased lability as I get older is not just a function of age, etc., but the result of some CTE. Despite my family tradition of playing and following football, I cannot see having my son doing the same, so I have him in TKD as an alternative and will only allow him the participate in low risk to the brain high school sports. BTW, his TKD school does not allow hits to the head.


  24. Live Aloha August 27, 2017 10:49 pm

    I’m a parent on the varsity team. Jus so u know There is study hall during football season but the 4th quarter grades is what is considered to play in the fall. The varsity had 6 players on AP and JV had 11. Those students who screwed up in school are the ones to blame… plain and simple. No one else is to blame. Take care of your studies and be responsible. It really is that simple. The coaches and administrators are not to blame…it’s those students and their parents. They are selfish and don’t think about their teammates. And it’s funny how those parents of those kids are the ones complaining about the Coach. Maybe they should look in the mirror on how they are parenting their kid and stop judging others.
    The varsity team is lacking numbers because they have uncommitted boys who would rather go to Sandy’s instead of working hard on the football field during the spring and summer. Their parents are a bunch of selfish complainers who have taught their kids to do exactly the same thing. It’s only a hand full of parents and players that are ruining it for Kaiser. And, unfortunately, they are spreading their poison to some of the JV parents. When my family and friends ask me what going on at kaiser and I tell them the truth, they trip. I tell them that this Coach and his staff are solid people. The problem lies with a few parents that go watch practice every day and drink beer and sit in a group and complain and grumble about the coaches. The sad thing is some of them is coaches on the dolphins pop warner team…the feeder program to Kaiser. Instead of supporting the coaches and being thankful, they judge and complain. They don’t know how to enjoy their kids high school days…they living through their kids. Super sad! I no understand why they never apply for the job when it was open. They think they so good and the sad thing is their kids think they better than their teammates. Hard for have unity when u get selfish parents and kids.

    I sad for my son and his teammates that work hard everyday. He’s a senior and he loves the coaches and get so frustrated when he hear that one group of parents is trying for get the coaches fired. He sees that group of parents every day drinking beer at the park we practice at. He don’t understand why they there if they no like the coaches.
    I don’t have the time to be at my sons practice every day. But when I do, I go to enjoy and support the coaches. They take time out of their own lives to help kids. That’s what I teach my kid…to work hard, do ur best, and be thankful to people who give their time. The JV parents and players jus gotta stay positive and support the coaches and the future will be bright for Kaiser. This coach knows what he’s doing. THANK YOU COACH MARTINEZ AND THE REST OF THE COACHING STAFF!! Know that most of us parents and kids appreciate and support u guys. Mahalo!
    #livealoha


  25. Live Aloha August 27, 2017 11:25 pm

    I’m a parent on the varsity team. Jus so u know There is study hall during football season but the 4th quarter grades is what is considered to play in the fall. The varsity had 6 players on AP and JV had 11. Those students who screwed up in school are the ones to blame… plain and simple. No one else is to blame. Take care of your studies and be responsible. It really is that simple. The coaches and administrators are not to blame…it’s those students and their parents. They are selfish and don’t think about their teammates. And it’s funny how those parents of those kids are the ones complaining about the Coach. Maybe they should look in the mirror on how they are parenting their kid and stop judging others.
    The varsity team is lacking numbers because they have uncommitted boys who would rather go to Sandy’s instead of working hard on the football field during the spring and summer. Their parents are a bunch of selfish complainers who have taught their kids to do exactly the same thing. It’s only a hand full of parents and players that are ruining it for Kaiser. And, unfortunately, they are spreading their poison to some of the JV parents. When my family and friends ask me what going on at kaiser and I tell them the truth, they trip. I tell them that this Coach and his staff are solid people. The problem lies with a few parents that go watch practice every day and drink beer and sit in a group and complain and grumble about the coaches. The sad thing is some of them is coaches on the dolphins pop warner team…the feeder program to Kaiser. Instead of supporting the coaches and being thankful, they judge and complain. They don’t know how to enjoy their kids high school days…they living through their kids. Super sad! I no understand why they never apply for the job when it was open. They think they so good and the sad thing is their kids think they better than their teammates. Hard for have unity when u get selfish parents and kids.

    I sad for my son and his teammates that work hard everyday. He’s a senior and he loves the coaches and get so frustrated when he hear that one group of parents is trying for get the coaches fired. He sees that group of parents every day drinking beer at the park we practice at. He don’t understand why they there if they no like the coaches.
    I don’t have the time to be at my sons practice every day. But when I do, I go to enjoy and support the coaches. They take time out of their own lives to help kids. That’s what I teach my kid…to work hard, do ur best, and be thankful to people who give their time. The JV parents and players jus gotta stay positive and support the coaches and the future will be bright for Kaiser. This coach knows what he’s doing. THANK YOU COACH MARTINEZ AND THE REST OF THE COACHING STAFF!! Know that most of us parents and kids appreciate and support u guys. Mahalo!
    #livealoha


  26. HK girl September 12, 2017 1:52 pm

    To Live Aloha, I have already confirmed with ALL of varsity parents that they did not post comment 24 & 25. Please be honest in your post and stop showing fake support. We believe that you are a jv dad, so just post your support as who you are. Be honest, please! Thank you


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