You’ve heard it a million times. It’s not where you start, but where you finish.
The Saint Louis Crusaders end the 2016 season atop the final Honolulu Star-Advertiser Football Top 10 rankings of the season released Monday.
Saint Louis (11-1) replaces Kahuku (11-2), which had been ranked No. 1 for the entire season, after beating the Red Raiders 30-14 in the inaugural Open Division state final of the First Hawaiian Bank/HHSAA State Football Championships on Saturday night at Aloha Stadium.
No. 2 Kahuku had its string of 16 consecutive weeks atop the rankings snapped dating back to the state final last year in Division I. Saint Louis held the top spot going into the final game of the season only to lose to the second-ranked Red Raiders.
In fact, when the No. 1 team plays the No. 2 team, the No. 2-ranked squad has won each of the last five meetings, including the last three state finals (No. 2 Mililani def. No. 1 Punahou in 2014).
Saint Louis and Kahuku have combined to hold the top spot in 24 of the last 27 weeks the poll has been published.
Kapolei (10-3) closes the year with its highest finishing ranking ever at No. 3, followed by Punahou and Waianae.
No. 4 Punahou (7-3) hadn’t finished outside of the top three in the final rankings since 2010.
Mililani (9-3), which beat ‘Iolani 31-20 in the final of the Division I state tournament, jumped ahead of Farrington at No 6 followed by the Govs (8-4).
Kamehameha (3-6), which had its first losing since 1992 and lost all five games against Punahou and Saint Louis, finishes the year No. 8 despite finding itself outside of the top 10 late in the season for the first time in the six-year history of the poll.
Lahainaluna (9-4), which won its first Division II state championship with a 21-14 win over Kapaa on Friday at Aloha Stadium, closes the year ranked No. 9. It’s the first time the Lunas have been ranked since Week 14 in 2014.
‘Iolani (5-8) is ranked to finish a season as a Division I team for the first time at No. 10.
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| Updated: Nov. 21 | ||
| RK | Team | Pts. |
| 1. | Saint Louis | 150 |
| 2. | Kahuku | 135 |
| 3. | Kapolei | 120 |
| 4. | Punahou | 104 |
| 5. | Waianae | 91 |
| 6. | Mililani | 67 |
| 7. | Farrington | 59 |
| 8. | Kamehameha | 32 |
| 9. | Lahainaluna | 25 |
| 10. | 'Iolani | 20 |
Being #1 at the end this is all that matters. Congrats gentlemen
Like I said all year long, the only ranking that matters is that last one. Im gonna be classy and say Congrats to the Crusaders on winning the title! BUT! after you guys printed those “kuck fahuku” shirts and one of your alumni burned a kahuku flag & shirt on facebook (its been deleted), all I gotta say is stay out of our back yard, take those players from Waianae, Kapolei, Kauai, Maui, Big Island and anywhere else but don’t cherry pick from us to make your football factory look good. Our kids really only want to go to Punahou and thats fine if they want to go but don’t come snooping around our parks for football players! fuwams!
anywaaaays!! November 21, 2016 at 2:51 pm
Like I said all year long, the only ranking that matters is that last one. Im gonna be classy and say Congrats to the Crusaders on winning the title! BUT! after you guys printed those “kuck fahuku” shirts and one of your alumni burned a kahuku flag & shirt on facebook (its been deleted), all I gotta say is stay out of our back yard, take those players from Waianae, Kapolei, Kauai, Maui, Big Island and anywhere else but don’t cherry pick from us to make your football factory look good. Our kids really only want to go to Punahou and thats fine if they want to go but don’t come snooping around our parks for football players! fuwams!
A sincere congratulations to a butt hurt ending. Crying about a shirt that was never printed to a burning flag that whipped up all the RR tears. Go instagram Braddah Jeffereh & tell him that all the PR he was trying to get off of posting a shirt that was never made was all hype like his RR. What else you gotta cry about? I hope it ain’t more about Kahuku Football because all those checks you been writing about your RR wasn’t cashed. Between you & 88 you two clowns must feel like idiots.
ok everyone, let’s save all of these for next season, until then good bye. it was a great season and a great job to all the teams. let’s all go back to work now
THP – I dont complain I post facts. Like the fact that Cal and the whole STL team didnt stay to accept the 2nd place trophy last year because they were all Salty, heck your fans were all gone before the final whistle but now that they are 1st place they are happy stay? Congrats again you guys won and I mean that – we also got out coached, fact!
But did you not see the entire Red Raider nation stay to see our team accept the 2nd place trophy last week? Our players clapped when STL was presented with their trophy, Did you not see us all celebrate after the game and support our boys. We not mad and salty, disappointed in the result but satisfied that the whole season was full of many ups and some downs. True character is not shown when you winning, its shown when you losing and I had the biggest smile on my face after the game because our fans and our players loss with class. Burning Kahuku apparel after you win is quite the opposite. Facts not Complaining!
As the article says We stand alone! please turn off your computer and enjoy your second place trophy. You should take a page out of our books..we dont accept second place trophys!
i guess brotherhood only applies when you win the big trophy, other than that, leave your brothers behind.
@topdoggy your right. It shows the class st louey had last year by not accepting it and not congratulating the winning team. Make sure you print it out and frame. Smart a$$
anywaaaays!! November 21, 2016 at 3:28 pm
THP – I dont complain I post facts. Like the fact that Cal and the whole STL team didnt stay to accept the 2nd place trophy last year because they were all Salty, heck your fans were all gone before the final whistle but now that they are 1st place they are happy stay? Congrats again you guys won and I mean that – we also got out coached, fact!
But did you not see the entire Red Raider nation stay to see our team accept the 2nd place trophy last week? Our players clapped when STL was presented with their trophy, Did you not see us all celebrate after the game and support our boys. We not mad and salty, disappointed in the result but satisfied that the whole season was full of many ups and some downs. True character is not shown when you winning, its shown when you losing and I had the biggest smile on my face after the game because our fans and our players loss with class. Burning Kahuku apparel after you win is quite the opposite. Facts not Complaining!
Off The Field Facts:
RR Fans cheering when STL player is injured -FACT
RR Fans complaining about refs being a factor- FACT
RR Fans talking trash all season – FACT
RR Fans got nothing else to live for but high school football FACT
On The Field Facts:
RR secondary getting burnt all game FACT
Michigan recruit is barely a D1 prospect FACT
No offensive identity FACT
Offense proven to be one dimensional FACT
Dead in every 3rd & long play FACT
#26 too slow to play safety FACT
No defender spying the Bama recruit FACT
Cannot stop #13 FACT
Best RR player on the field was the punter FACT
What facts did I miss besides the fact that 80 plus pts against Radford is equivalent to STL putting up 150 pts. Or the “great RR D” looked like they were playing on quick sand when it counted
We never lose to Kahuku – FACT
All time winningest coach – FACT
Heisman caliber coaching – FACT
Cal Lee the all time greatest coach in Hawaii high school history FACT
Heisman produced FACT
St Louis made Hawaii high school football FACT
if you’re talking about Mariota as the the Heisman, I believe it was Arceneax coaching that year. And if u recall they lost to Kahuku his senior year in a pre season game. I think Coach Kelly is thank for during his years at Oregon. But congratulations to St. Louis.
I think any family can decide to send their child to any school if they feel it is a good fit. I feel even though a family might live in a certain district or community, they don’t belong to any community. If coaches choose to come to areas to offer or “recruit” kids then more power to those kids. If certain schools didn’t offer something great or better than their neighborhood school is offering then those kids would not go. I think we should applaud kids that get the opportunity to either stay at their neighborhood school or have the opportunity to attend a private school. When did having options become a bad thing? When did going to a private school become a bad thing? I am sure that many families who are unhappy if a certain kid left to go to private school was offered the same opportunity, then many of them might choose to leave too.
In conclusion, it’s very unfortunate that there is so much anger and hatred on these boards and often directed at families and kids for doing what they feel is in the best interest of the child.
Burning Kahuku apparel after you win is quite the opposite. Facts not Complaining!
Sorry sir, and I do agree with you that burning someone’s apparel is not classy. But that is an opinion and not a fact.
A factual statement would be something like, “at 11:30pm Saturday, November 19 a Kahuku T-Shirt was burned on Facebook.”
Sorry, I just wanted to point out the difference. Thank you.
Yes, get it out of your system boy. Get all that anger out. Vent then breathe. Then we see all you high school fans next year. Good season to all seniors. Study hard, graduate and pursue your dreams. Aloha.
Having that shown on facebook has open a can of worms. It ignites no respect for the Crusaders even more. Not only from Kahuku, but others as well. So Sad!!!
@toppdoggs
Your facts need tinned corrected
You guys won this year . Congrats . See you guys next year
But never loose to Kahuku ? Jus last year same group of guys won our 8 title after beating St. Louis
Here’s a fact
Longtime coming …. Took St. Louis 17 years to finally beat Kahuku for a State Championship – FACT
FACT- Kahuku printed 2016 State Champion shirts before the game.
FACT- Kahuku fan gave shirt to his St. Louis friend to rub it in
FACT- Kahuku loses and St. Louis friend burns the Kahuku 2016 State Champion shirt.
FACT – Kahuku couldn’t afford their own uniforms back in the day. So Father Bray had to donate uniforms from Iolani and Lahuku adopted the nickname Red Raiders.
FACT – Kahuku is not a community of Native Americans.
FACT – Kahuku copycatted both Atlanta Braves and Florida State Seminoles with their Tomahawk Chop Cheer.
FACT – Some fans sitting in the Kahuku section were seen cheering when a St. Louis player was lying on the field hurt.
FACT – 88 is a dipshit.
Insideoutsidein November 21, 2016 at 5:37 pm
if you’re talking about Mariota as the the Heisman, I believe it was Arceneax coaching that year. And if u recall they lost to Kahuku his senior year in a pre season game. I think Coach Kelly is thank for during his years at Oregon. But congratulations to St. Louis.
Also failed to mention that Kahuku didn’t make it to the Championship because they failed to follow rules. “Preseason” is like “pre-cum”, good at the beginning but not as good when you finish. On top of that I didn’t say Cal produced Mariota. St. Louis produced a He is an.
He is an*
Heisman***
LMAO!
That spell correct feature. Damn it, lol! @TheHeartlessPrick
FACT- Kahuku fans sticking finger has gone viral
FACT- I once caught syphalis from a midget and donkey threesome in Tijuana.
OPINION- Kahuku has the best fans.
FACT- Kuck Fahuku shirts where not condoned by SLS. They even sent an email out about wearing tasteless/classless apparel. So just because ONE person printed a few shirts does not mean all Crusaders where involved
This is kinda fun. Let me try.
FACT:
St. Louis has 18 Prep Bowl/Division 1/Open Titles
Kahuku has 8 Prep Bowl/Division 1/Open Titles
TopDoggs November 21, 2016 at 3:37 pm
As the article says We stand alone! please turn off your computer and enjoy your second place trophy. You should take a page out of our books..we dont accept second place trophys!
TopDoggs November 21, 2016 at 4:55 pm
We never lose to Kahuku – FACT
All time winningest coach – FACT
Heisman caliber coaching – FACT
The ilh schools are a very prestigious educational Institute. So please stop posting dog s#!t. . .
“We don’t except 2nd place trophys?. . . Maybe stl don’t but Punahou and Iolani did, so don’t brag about immature behavior like that again.
“We don’t lose to Kahuku?” . . .Do you have actual facts?
#Heisman caliber coaching”? . . . Since when? Chip Kelly had more faith in Marcus then Darnell Arceneaux.
So please, stop posting. You sound uneducated. . . Provide facts for me please. . .
Fact : Once HHSAA changes the rule of allowing 5 th year seniors aka 19 year old to play with high school kids . Which even the playing field for the rest of The State , St. Louis only musters 4 state titles in 17 years . Coincidence ? Prep Bowls Were games where St. Louis was loaded with 19 year olds on one side . Big advantage for you guys .
Talk to us when you guys catch up on State Titles . No body will ever eclipse St Louis in their fabulous runs of Prep Bowl Championship , cause nobody really cares for Prep Bowls except the Brotherhood .
KalaepoCOCK ohhh November 21, 2016 at 9:19 pm
Fact : Once HHSAA changes the rule of allowing 5 th year seniors aka 19 year old to play with high school kids . Which even the playing field for the rest of The State , St. Louis only musters 4 state titles in 17 years . Coincidence ? Prep Bowls Were games where St. Louis was loaded with 19 year olds on one side . Big advantage for you guys .
Talk to us when you guys catch up on State Titles . No body will ever eclipse St Louis in their fabulous runs of Prep Bowl Championship , cause nobody really cares for Prep Bowls except the Brotherhood .
You talking about “eligible” players? There’s only one team that got eliminated from the state playoffs because of “eligible players”. Do you know who that team might be?(spare me the excuses & name the team). And I would take a wild guess that you are one of the people that doesn’t care about prep bowl runs because you’re a victim of the Simones era, goose eggs & tears era.
KalaepoCOCK ohhh November 21, 2016 at 9:19 pm
Fact : Once HHSAA changes the rule of allowing 5 th year seniors aka 19 year old to play with high school kids . Which even the playing field for the rest of The State , St. Louis only musters 4 state titles in 17 years . Coincidence ? Prep Bowls Were games where St. Louis was loaded with 19 year olds on one side . Big advantage for you guys .
Talk to us when you guys catch up on State Titles . No body will ever eclipse St Louis in their fabulous runs of Prep Bowl Championship , cause nobody really cares for Prep Bowls except the Brotherhood .
Sir, by changing the format it gave the OIA a 50% chance of winning compared 16.7% for the ILH, MIL, and BIIF. This did not even the playing field. If anything, it gave the OIA League a huge advantage to win.
You forgot to factor in money as a reason why ST. Louis wasn’t as successful starting in 2000. If you look at tuition increase from 1999-2016, then factor in the amount of football donations and financial aid given, STL just didn’t bring in the same kind of athletes. The school didn’t have enough money to develop and maintain a deep pool of football talent.
With the economy more stable, STL is able to get more booster money and financial aid money. And once again, STL’s football program is starting to flourish.
Also, with private school’s tuition being more expensive starting in the late 90’s, private schools couldn’t invest as much monies into athletics which in turn allowed kids in Waianae, Kahuku, Farrington, etc. to stay at their home schools.
This is all common knowledge to any financial planner, investor. The quality of football at the private schools went down to mirror the financial landscape of Oahu at the time.
In addition, in 1986, my Uncle Joe Dano who was the VP of STL at the time said only 2 kids on the entire roster was over the age of 18. One kid barely played.
So in conclusion, I would blame the financial landscape of Oahu and not being able to attract and offer financial assistance to quality athletes over some “unproven” 19th year student that is more an urban legend than truth.
Thank you for listening.
@pun alum 95 – 19 year olds playing high school football urban ledgend? Was at it common practice to hold incoming kids back one year at St. Louis ? I swear some of the guys that grew up with us and went to St. Louis graduated a year later ?? . I could be wrong . If I am , I stand corrected . Go ask your uncle who was 19 on this years squad ?
@heartlessprick . Yes That team that got disqualified was 2010 Red Raiders . For allowing kid who transferred from Utah without knowledge of infraction . The same team that laid a beating on your * 2010 championship team . Remember ??
During the 90′ s 5th year seniors were allowed to play . Under current rules of HHsSa St. Louis would have been disqualified often . Jus saying …….
@punalum95 I have a question. You don’t think stl wasnt successful from 2000 was due to the fact that cal lee left? Especially after that whole Vegas trip fiasco? Football players weren’t given special treatment anymore, and the AD was coming down on the football program all together. Tuition went up to cover the decline of the football program and hurt reputation? Just a question. . . I moved here from the states 4yrs prior and was in awe of the program. When the Vegas incident happened I was surprised being that stl is a private Catholic school. With the exit of Coach Lee, and the hammer being dropped on the program and the reputation in need of a repair I thought it will take a while for the football team to recover from this.
@Alpha, that could be a big reason too. Fact is no one knows. We can only speculate. It could be the19 year old rule. But no one even knows how many kids were 19 and if they even played much. It could be Cal Lee. It could be the financial landscape. None of us including myself knows the reason. To be absolute would invite a lot of ignorance on all our parts. The only thing that I know is STL won a lot in a row and that is impressive. I for one, do not want to take away from any teams in the past for winning and being successful. I applaud all teams winner or not, just for competing and staying out of trouble. It’s too bad that more of us don’t share these same feelings.
FACT- Some Kahuku fans grumble about ILH recruiting, yet Kahuku recruits Internationally.
FACT- Countless incidents where Kahuku fans stone opposing teams busses.
FACT- St. Louis f@#ked up when they hired Pat Yamamoto as Principal. Enrollment went down because she wanted to concentrate on academics ONLY.
FACT- My balls itch.
*Hamamoto
Facts November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm
FACT- Some Kahuku fans grumble about ILH recruiting, yet Kahuku recruits Internationally.
Really? Can you prove that? I asked last night if anyone can prove that both Kahuku and ILH recruit (or just locally) Maybe you might know somthing cause no one has responded to my question. And if proven to be true, shame shame shame. . . . That news can be breaking story. . .
Facts November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm
FACT- St. Louis f@#ked up when they hired Pat Yamamoto as Principal. Enrollment went down because she wanted to concentrate on academics ONLY.
FACT- My balls itch.
Isn’t academics the reason why a kid would want to enroll at a private school?
It’s amazing some of the vulgarity put on public display by some of these ilh supporters. You’d wonder if they even went private school, a Catholic one at that.
FACT- Alpha needs to learn reading comprehension. I even capitalized ONLY. St. Louis prides itself by mixing sports with academics. Hamamoto only wanted Academics. Not all the students who go there are Catholic. Get a clue
I was in high school and had tons of friends that played football for st. louis around 99-2000. The vegas incident in my opinion started the downfall of st. louis football. No parent wanted their kids to involved in a program that let kids do whatever they want. St. louis players were def feeling entitled. Entitled enough to throw parties up in vegas with alcohol and strippers lol
I remember some of there players trying to come up and scrap my friends. Especially Tony Tata lol It was a win and no cost culture.
It seems like the culture is changing and they are starting to get the players again like mariota and tua, if they can get new kids to buy into the culture and go to that wahine less school, more power to them.
Congrats St. Loius. Can’t wait till next year!
@facts. . . . Exactly what I thought, no proof…. quit riding on other people’s post and come up with your own maam/sir. Save your side cracks for someone on your level and come at me with somthing worth noting.
At least come with some ilh level argument instead of “Not all the students who go there are Catholic. Get a clue” which no where in my comments mentioned only Catholics attend a Catholic private school.
Here’s an example:
Fact- Decline of stl football started in the early 2000’s
Fact- Pat Hamamoto was Principal from 2010-2013
By the mature level of writing and Grammer used by yourself that’s probably the years you attend, if you actually was a private school student. . .
omg everyone. season is over. st. louis won. let them celebrate their winning season. let’s save all these talks for next year.
didn’t mariota lose his only high school game to kahuku? is that a fact?
rrfl November 22, 2016 at 7:53 am
omg everyone. season is over. st. louis won. let them celebrate their winning season. let’s save all these talks for next year.
didn’t mariota lose his only high school game to kahuku? is that a fact?
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@rrfl. Almost everyone on here respects Kahuku the football team for their talent, dedication, commitment, and overall success.
But what I believe is most of us do not respect guys like 88 and his alter-egos (too meke, good story, anywaaays, and possibly alpha).
They insult other programs. They come on line to tell everyone how bad other programs are and how Kahuku would pound everyone. They display no humility or class.
So when Kahuku loses people want to jump on them since they deserve it.
88 is going to come back with an angry, albeit very stupid comment soon.
It depends on how you look at it , but kahuku does not recruit . Let me explain . What happens often is people hear of kids transferring from out of state . Particularly Utah or other schools . What seem to be tradition is that a lot of families alumni relocate from Kahuku for financial reasons , and opportunities from the Mormon church and when their kids reach high school , they move back to play at Kahuku . Also in the case of recent standouts from ILH schools transferring back to play at Kahuku where they grew up at is not recruiting . Internationally recruiting ? I don’t think so . Kids come from South Pacific all the time to have better opportunities and have a lot of family out in Kahuku are not being recruited they come in their own . There are Soooo Much willing and able bodies in the Kahuku and. The talent pool is unlimited , as we are able to fill gaps in the other private and public schools
After reading most of the posted comments I have come to the conclusion that a lot of you guys need to grow up and quit living your lives through young men playing high school sports.
Laughable November 22, 2016 at 9:03 am
After reading most of the posted comments I have come to the conclusion that a lot of you guys need to grow up and quit living your lives through young men playing high school sports.
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Please don’t say that to Gaylord (88). He needs to feel that he is a part of Kahuku Football. I am currently emailing Coach Tata to see if he will allow Gaylord 2.0 (88) to run on the field after kickoffs to retrieve the tee. Hopefully Coach Tata says it is ok and Gaylord can finally be a part of the Kahuku Team.
I think having a 47 year old (88) run out on the field and feel like he’s part of the team so he doesn’t need to angry blog all the time is cool! I mean, 47 year old bloggers who only talk crap on blogs is the norm right?
If that happens, maybe he won’t be so angry at the world and may possibly start to attend night school to improve his really low intelligence.
Laughable November 22, 2016 at 9:03 am
After reading most of the posted comments I have come to the conclusion that a lot of you guys need to grow up and quit living your lives through young men playing high school sports.
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You hit this on the nose & this has been repeated during the whole season. These Kahuku fans are comparing their career (that they barley lived) to these kids & the nowadays success. Half of these guys are in the “Simones Goose Egg Era” & a scattered few may have been a part of Kahuku popping the cherry. But these guys have nothing else to live for but high school football. Basketball team in the states, volleyball team in states, community is at home eating pop corn waiting for football.
@ TheHeartlessPrick, if Gaylord (88) grew up, then he would be no fun anymore. Who would be on here to get simple words confused? Who would be on here to contradict themselves? There would be no one to make up stories to entertain us. If 88 left, then so would too meke, anywaays, and good story. Those are 4 important (albeit one person) bloggers on here.
I am going to start a petition to keep Gaylord (88) from growing up. Doesn’t anyone else think that having a 47 year old guy on here to talk about Kahuku Football is needed on this blog? Every town (in this case this website) needs a town joker, or in 88’s case the town IDIOT.
Education First November 22, 2016 at 12:48 pm
@ TheHeartlessPrick, if Gaylord (88) grew up, then he would be no fun anymore. Who would be on here to get simple words confused? Who would be on here to contradict themselves? There would be no one to make up stories to entertain us. If 88 left, then so would too meke, anywaays, and good story. Those are 4 important (albeit one person) bloggers on here.
I am going to start a petition to keep Gaylord (88) from growing up. Doesn’t anyone else think that having a 47 year old guy on here to talk about Kahuku Football is needed on this blog? Every town (in this case this website) needs a town joker, or in 88’s case the town IDIOT.
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@Education First
Wow! Gaylord went from retrieving the kicking tee to doing his roll & now he’s the laughing stock of HPW?? Congratulations 88, I knew it along that the Kahuku education & grammar could only be comprehended of someone like Gaylord. Now this all makes sense, Hawaii isn’t winning anymore so now he’s on the Kahuku sideline.
Nobody gives a rats @$$ what you respect. How many times do I have to tell you? You are here to entertain me. You can’t come on here talk shet about high school kids and their families and than think your respect or opinions mean anything. You are my Clown EducationAl85. Not entertain me before the data on your sisters phone runs out and I don’t hear from you for another 2 weeks.
All you damned crybabies on both sides of the line, get the hell over it, the game is done. Move on! It’s pathetic that a sport has brought out the devil in a lot of people. You people are sick. Why can’t we all just rise up, accept what is or isn’t and just move forward?
To the CRUSADERS of ST. LOUIS…a big CONGRATS on your victory, especially to my nephew Isaiah Tufaga who played one hell of a game.
To the RED RAIDER of KAHUKU…my ALMA MATER…CONGRATS on a great and hard fought game. Learn, regroup and reload…next year is another year.
FOOTBALL is a game, it’s NOT LIFE!!!
GOD & FAMILY is LIFE!!!
Side note: Y U asses all hiding behind a FAKE NAME? Pricks & Bitches…no hide!!! And y’all need to grow the hell up!!!