Week 1 quick glance: 7 of Top 10 teams in action

Calvin Mock and the Pearl City Chargers will get a chance to play at Aloha Stadium. Darryl Oumi / Special to the Star-Advertiser.

There were 13 football games around the state in Week 1 of Hawaii high school football.

Seven of the teams in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser’s preseason Top 10 were in action in nonleague games. Only No. 2 Kahuku, No. 4 Mililani and No. 10 ‘Iolani have yet to play a nonleague game.

Here is a complete rundown of all the final scores from Week 1:


SATURDAY, AUG. 5
Nonleague
>> No. 1 Saint Louis 49, at No. 5 Waianae 7
>> At Waiakea 16, Waialua 6
>> Damien 42, at Castle 7
>> Lahainaluna 20, at Pearl City 7
>> Pac-Five 27, McKinley 7, at Skippa Diaz Stadium
>> At Leilehua 13, St. Francis 9
>> Kapaa 24, Maui 7, at War Memorial Stadium
>> Kauai 10, Kamehameha-Hawaii 7, at Vidinha Stadium

FRIDAY, AUG. 4
Nonleaague
>> No. 3 Punahou 35, Moanalua 7, at Radford High field
>> No. 6 Kapolei 23, at No. 9 Campbell 7
>> No. 7 Kamehameha 34, at No. 8 Farrington 15
>> At Kamehameha-Maui 35, Kalaheo 28
>> Waipahu 51, at Nanakuli 14

COMMENTS

  1. Hyn August 6, 2017 12:55 pm

    Ok let’s see.
    St. Louis beats Waianae
    Kam beats farrington
    Punahou beats moanalua
    Waipahu beats nanakuli
    Damien beats castle
    Looks to me that oia division 1 not to strong this year so why are we putting 3 teams in the open again?
    Not to mention you still got Radford, aiea,kaiser,Kailua and leileihua who just got pass st Francis .


  2. anywaaaays!! August 6, 2017 1:41 pm

    The OIA has always been a strong league when they play against eachother, but when they go up against the ILH its obvious the difference that recruiting and resources make the ILH elite.


  3. Hyn August 6, 2017 4:11 pm

    Anywaays- really division 2 teams beating oia division 1. You would never see an oia division 2 team beat an ILH division 1. Just saying!


  4. Hyn August 6, 2017 4:48 pm

    Yeah but division 2 beating a division 1. You would never see an oia division 2 beat an ILH division 1


  5. 808 sports fan August 6, 2017 5:11 pm

    If castle and damien were to play in 3 weeks. Would be a different outcome. Public schools are affected by academic probation. I had the opportunity to coach in both the ILH and the oia.
    Until the ILH agree to split the money with the oia then they will get more teams in the state tournament. Bc both leagues will merge and form a super conferences. Kahuku and Mililani are this year’s oia top contenders.


  6. Jus Saying August 6, 2017 6:04 pm

    @808 sports fan: Private schools, like public schools, do not allow their players to participate if they do not maintain their grades. To play in the preseason, your must have the minimum GPA as of the end of 4th qtr. of the previous school year (before summer break). It is not the ILH’s fault that the kids on academic probation did not make the grade and could not participate. As a parent, I like that the school always pushes “school first, football second”. Maybe the other schools should also focus on the students academics first, so that they can all participate instead of all of us wondering “What if?”


  7. Hyn August 6, 2017 6:32 pm

    808 sports fan- you have to throw kapolei in the mix too.


  8. 808 sports fan August 6, 2017 10:06 pm

    Jus saying.
    It’s not the ILH fault at all.. every oia school stresses academic first. that response was to hyn trying to refer to division 2 teams beating oia schools. Well of you take away 9 starters from a top Ilh division 1 school, a division 2 ILH could beat a d1 ilh team…
    Hyn
    Yes kapolei well be good too. imo kahuku and Mililani returning QB starters will be the x factor. But I do like kapolei defense


  9. RidgeRunnerE-5 August 6, 2017 10:21 pm

    To be fair, Nanakuli is a DII caliber team. They, along with Radford should’ve been knocked down to DII after they both went 0-8 last season. Waipahu should win the OIA DII title this season.


  10. Choloropicrin August 6, 2017 11:01 pm

    waipahu is going to tear through D2 this year, get bumped up the following year only to go winless. Traditionally the teams that goes up and down between divisions are great at the lower and suck in the higher. That’s the problem. The OIA teams that should be in their own D1 division are… Kahuku, Waianae, Farrington, Mililani, Kapolei, Campbell, Leilehua and Moanalua or Castle. The rest should play in OIA D2, while those play D1 against each other.

    No one wants to see Kahuku vs Redford or Mililani vs Nanakuli, games which usually ends in a blow out.

    The playoffs could be the top 4 teams vying for the 3 spots.


  11. Whhy August 6, 2017 11:57 pm

    HYN I thought it was clear. The OIA 1,2, and 3 play in states because of league size.


  12. Public school August 7, 2017 4:42 am

    To me if your gonna name it open division. You want the best in there even if it’s 3 ILH teams. I went to an OIA school and I’m ok with seeing 3 ILH teams in the open tournament. Open means it’s open division have the best teams in.


  13. Hyn August 7, 2017 5:05 am

    Whhy- Then why is no oia in the middle division for states. Division 1 for oia is so watered down besides the top 3 or 4 teams.


  14. RidgeRunnerE-5 August 7, 2017 6:59 am

    How’s about we all just sit back and enjoy another football season and let things play out.


  15. Kela August 7, 2017 8:29 am

    ILH would sweep the top 3 spots if allowed in the Open, they are on a different level. Kahuku would be in the mix but my bets would be on the ILH taking the trophy every year.


  16. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 12:35 pm

    Why isnt anyone talking about the blow out that STL and Kam put on FARR and WAINAE that are ranked in the top 5 of the OIA?

    I hope this erases all talks that there needs to be a super conference combining the top ILH and OIA teams, The only reason this idea was pushed by the ILH was because Kahuku keeps winning state titles and in order for the ILH (specifically STL) to gain back its #1 status they need to play Kahuku multiple times to get used to their style because once in the title game is not enough, lmao!

    Besides thats what Cal Lee said when they lost to Kahuku in 2015…

    “it would be nice to play them in the regular season so we can get used to their smash mouth style”. Sure enough a few months later the ILH proposes to the OIA to combine leagues and offers 3 Million$$$, OIA says no! so they secretly create the Open division format and insert 2 ILH teams.

    now after they beat Kahuku in 2016 Ron Lee is saying “the competition in the OIA is weaker and we knew it would come back to bite them…we dont have a soft schedule we play Punahou and Kam so we were prepared for them”

    So when Kahuku wins things need to change? But when an ILH team wins everything in the universe is fine? LOL


  17. Hyn August 7, 2017 1:46 pm

    The facts don’t lie. Seems to me oia is weaker then ILH in division 1. You better hope Waianae don’t beat kapolei then it would be more weaker then it already is.


  18. bandits1 August 7, 2017 1:59 pm

    … @ guys commenting on how “weak” the OIA D1 is when 2 of it’s top 3 teams, Kahuku and Mililani, haven’t even played a real game yet. And the third team, Kapolei, won their opener vs another top-10 team. Wait until the ALL of the OIA’s top teams play, then talk.


  19. RECRUITorDIE August 7, 2017 3:17 pm

    Anyways you didn’t know that recruiting was the backbone of EVERY great program, if you didn’t know then you better ask somebody… You best believe YOUR team NEEDS to recruit talent, look at Mililani, Kahuku, and Kapolei they doing the best next to St. Louis, Punahou, and Kamehameha.


  20. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 3:26 pm

    bandits1 – In this day and age with so many off season camps and leagues, its easy to see what schools have the most talent. Most of the talent is in the ILH, Kahuku and Kapolei have a few and there is one or two scattered through out the rest of the OIA. Thats how we know the strength of each school b4 the season even starts.

    Waianae has that LB Mauga and RB Rosario but no one else, it was no surprise that STL would dominate that game.


  21. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 5:21 pm

    RECRUITorDIE – In the 80s and 90s Kahuku nor the rest of the OIA even knew what the word recruit meant. Thats when Cal lee started licking his chops and went crazy knowing no one else was doing what he could do….recruit and hold kids back to be 19yr old 5th year seniors. How do I know? I went to Kahuku elementary with one of STL greats, when I was a freshman in college I saw the prep bowl and this kid was a SR at STL, I was like wtf he is my age and should not be in high school.

    When I attended Kahuku my whole high school career I knew one football player who came from Cali because his family wanted him out of the gang environment in LA, he came and stayed with his cousins and rotated at DT for Kahuku. Even today at Kahuku its all homegrown, this year you will hear of 4 transfers that will start but they all lived in Laie playing popwarner b4 leaving Kahuku and now they are back.

    So I have to disagree with you, Kahuku born and breed their own talent and the proof is based on their style of play, they run a smash mouth offense because thats what kind of talent they have in their backyard. The ILH have the luxury to look at the college and nfl systems and say…”Hey, the run-n-shoot is popular lets get kids that can work in that system, oh now its the west coast offense ok lets get those kids”

    STL and PUN are the only schools that need to recruit to stay relevant. York at Mililani had a 2yr lucky streak with recruiting but now his well is running dry, ILH never run dry they use their private school prestige and advantages to lure kids in, its an endless supply of talent.


  22. bandits1 August 7, 2017 6:03 pm

    anywaaaays!! – Points taken, but all of that talent you speak of is, at this very early point in the season, mostly on paper. If I’m remembering correctly, since the state championship era started, at this early point in most seasons the popular favorites have been either St. Louis or Punahou with a handful of Kahuku in between. But the OIA has won more trophies than the ILH.

    And of course I agree that Waianae had no chance, especially without Rosario, but Waianae probably isn’t going to end up being one of the OIA’s top-3 teams. Neither is Farrington or Campbell.


  23. Whhy August 7, 2017 6:42 pm

    Kela… Welcome to Hawaii where Kahuku has taken half of the titles since the leveled playing field/state tournament. The next most wins? St Louis with half as many as titles as Kahuku. That’s 8 to 4 (including last years win).

    Now ask yourself why I think your post makes NO SENSE.

    And give me a break about ILH#3. No business.


  24. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 6:45 pm

    Bandts1 – you cannot get Kahuku confused with the rest of the OIA, eliminate Kahuku and the ILH wins 14 of the last 16 titles. Remember 2010 when Kahuku was 100% locked-in to beat STL in the title game but got DQd? Well, the 2nd best team from the OIA went and got drilled from STL in the title game.

    Here is another interesting point. Remember 2004 when Kahuku almost lost to Baldwin in the semifinals? If Baldwin won and advanced to the finals against STL I guarntee you STL wins, but instead Kahuku advanced to the finals and beat STL. How can Kahuku almost lose to Baldwin but then beat STL? …..Defense! While the whole state salivates over these high powered offenses in the ILH and at Mililani, Kahuku has the high powered defense to stop it. Even though Kahukus offense can barely even score 7pts in a game, their defense can hold the opponent to 6pts.

    So I have to disagree with you that the OIA top three can hang with STL. Kahuku can, imho. Kapolei might have a talented defense this year to stall a high powered STL offense but the Kapolei offense is trying too hard to be a balanced passing offense that they will not be able to kill enough clock to let their defense rest. Mililani might have a good offense but their defense will not hold against a STL/PUN offense. OIA interplay will make these teams look good but against an STL they would be exposed.

    In either case its exciting to watch these games coming up and if anything lets hope for minimal injuries so that all teams can say they are at full power.


  25. bandits1 August 7, 2017 7:09 pm

    anywaaaays!! – No confusion here, Kahuku is, IN FACT, a member of the OIA. Asking me to remove them from the discussion is like asking you to remove St. Louis, all the way back to the Prep Bowl days. What would the ILH be left with? A Punahou team with just one Prep Bowl appearance(a loss to Waianae) and two state championships, and a Kam team with three Prep Bowl wins(all in the 70s) and two state championships. Pretty good, but hardly dominant like St. Louis and Kahuku.

    Would Punahou have won more state championships if we took away the top two teams? Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps Waianae, Mililani, Leilehua or even Castle in 2002 would’ve had more championships.

    But the past is the past. We’ll see what happens this season.


  26. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 9:29 pm

    Removing Kahuku from their League to the removal of STL of the ILH does not balance out as far as leagues are concerned. Why? NUMBERS

    Removing STL from the 3 team ILH means that STLs presence made up 33% of the leagues participants. Removing Kahuku from the 15 team OIA means Kahukus presence only makes up 7.5% participation. So a majority of the titles won by the “OIA” was attributed to only 7.5% of its members (Kahuku), while in the ILH, although STL has most of the titles its sole presence makes up 33% of its members.

    So in essence, if we want to acknowledge STL as the lone hero in the ILH and say the rest of the ILH is sh!!ty then the percent would be 66% – So not including STL, the ILH is 66% sh!!ty

    if we want to acknowledge Kahuku as the lone hero in the OIA and say the rest of the OIA is sh!!ty then the percent would be 92.5% – So not including Kahuku, the OIA is 92.5% sh!!ty

    The OIA is statistically weaker because you have to account for the rest of the 14 teams in their league including the bottom feeders Radford/Nanakuli/Kaiser.

    For your argument to hold weight we would have to have an even amount of teams. So lets say OIA only has 3 teams (Kahuku,Kapolei,Miliani) against the ILH (PUN/STL/Kam), now we can say that the odds are equal for any one team from each league to have a streak of dominance.

    So the Statement “The OIA is the weaker league” is statistically true.


  27. Choloropicrin August 7, 2017 10:11 pm

    Just to clarify, Kahuku almost lost to Baldwin in 2006. The title game would have been different if STL QB Mamiya didn’t get hurt in the semifinal game against Waianae. But that year the two best teams were from the OIA, and it should have been an all OIA final for the title game aka defensive battle. Kaniela Tuipolotu vs George Kauwalu. Heck the top three teams were from the OIA that year, IMO, with Mililani who also had a stellar defense. Ahh that was a great year if you liked defensive football.


  28. Choloropicrin August 7, 2017 10:22 pm

    People penciling in Kapolei and Mililani as part of the top 3 from the OIA.

    Kahuku is a lock.

    Mililani has potential, but their scrimmage against Waianae wasn’t that great. They left their 1st team O in the whole way and could not score against Waianae’s 2nd / 3rd D who was playing their base defense. Gabriel is good but no receivers to throw too. Their defense is susceptible to the run.

    As for Kapolei they always got the hype cause Hernandez produces College prospects, but I don’t think they match last seasons success. They’ll be in closer games this year due lack offense.

    Waianae and Farrington has a lot of young talent on both sides of the ball. And are traditionally slow starters in the beginning of the season.

    I don’t think there are any sleeper teams in Campbell, Moanalua or Castle.

    So I think it’s rather wide open after Kahuku.


  29. anywaaaays!! August 7, 2017 10:34 pm

    Cholorinepicrin – Yes it was 2006 and funny enough Kahuku only scored 7pts but held STL to 6. The importance of a QB in the STL offense is comparable to the importance of an Olineman in Kahukus run only offense. So Mamiyas injury is the equivalent to Kahukus OL Benji Keomeatu who was also injured. It evens out but injuries should never be an excuse in football, next man up or the ability for a coach to make adjustments is what makes a championship team.


  30. Hyn August 8, 2017 1:32 am

    A first string Qb is more of a lost then an o lineman. But it’s still no excuse but still no comparison.


  31. bandits1 August 8, 2017 1:43 am

    anywaaaays!! – Let’s agree not “remove” any teams from their respective leagues because that would just be ridiculous. Kahuku represents the OIA and St. Louis represents the ILH, like it or not.

    I think this is just a terminology squabble. Saying the OIA is the “weaker” league isn’t entirely accurate since the OIA owns more state championships than the ILH does. A more fair statement would be the OIA is very much top-heavy. They have far fewer state tournament-quality teams, which is to be expected since it has WAY more members. To be fair, though, Kam hasn’t really been that good either since they won in all in ’09.

    But in pretty much every season, IMO, the top 3 OIA teams could go toe-to-toe with the 3 ILH D1 teams. Kapolei taking out Punahou in the opening round last season made that a reality. The ILH finally got their wish for two entries into the state tourney and it didn’t matter one bit.

    Bottom line is OIA fans have nothing really to be defensive about since we’ve won a majority of the state championships.


  32. anywaaaays!! August 8, 2017 4:06 pm

    Hyn – How is a Qb more important in Kahukus offense when they didnt even have one in several of their title wins (2006,2015) they had a RB running the wildcat. For Kahukus offense the Oline is the key, any other system especially STL run-n-shoot the QB is key.

    bandits1 – The OIA has every right to get defensive and protect their league especially when the ILH tries to throw their weight around in attempts to gain advantages over the OIA. For example the ILH strong armed their 2nd team into the tourney last year. When Miliani won in 2014 and Kahuku won in 2015 the ILH had created the storyline that the OIA has caught up to the ILH and the competition is equal. They used that storyline as an agenda to get their 2nd team in the tourney. Yet in 2016 when STL won the title Ron Lee himself said “the competition in the OIA is weaker and we knew it would come back to bite them (Kahuku)…we dont have a soft schedule we play Punahou and Kam so we were prepared for them”

    So I already proved statistically that the OIA is weaker (excluding Kahuku), Many in the state including STL brass say the OIA is weaker.

    I will only agree with you that the “OIA” (and not Kahuku) has more titles when its stated as a fact and fact only. But when the ILH uses that fact to fuel their own agendas like trying to get their 2nd team into the tourney, or a reason to merge leagues…based on the idea that the OIA has caught up to the ILH, then that is where I draw the line, the OIA has not caughten up to the ILH, Kahuku is the only one pulling all the weight for the OIA. Once every 10yrs you will get a Leiehua or Mililani team that will be able to beat the ILH. The two leagues are not equal and the OIA will never have the advantages of the ILH, despite how many titles Kahuku might win for the OIA.


  33. Coach D August 8, 2017 8:05 pm

    @choloropicrin- I guess you didn’t see the mililani / kahuku scrimmage, mililani had no problem passing/ running/and defending the run on kahuku!! Both teams we’re scoring on each other .. I think mililani should be penciled in as a top 3 OIA team. That QB from Kahuku is something special though!!!


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