St. Louis has highest national ranking of season

Saint Louis linebacker Jordan Botelho returned an interception for a touchdown against Narbonne (Calif.) last season as a sophomore. Photo by Jamm Aquino/Star-Advertiser.

The three weeks off between the ILH championship and semifinals of the Division I-Open state tournament have been good both on and off the field for Saint Louis.

Healthy and rested heading into Friday’s game against Mililani at 7:30 p.m. at Aloha Stadium, the Crusaders have also raised their national profile.

For the second straight week, the Crusaders have jumped two spots in the Max Preps Xcellent 25 and hold their highest ranking of the season at No. 21 in the latest poll released Sunday night.


On Sunday, two sophomores, linebacker Nick Herbig and defensive lineman Stanley McKenzie, earned scholarship offers from Hawaii.


With the Trojans’ loss to Kahuku, Saint Louis now owns the longest active win streak in Hawaii at 13 games. Only one team, Narbonne (Calif.), has played the Crusaders to a final margin of 10 points or less during the streak.


Saint Louis is No. 8 in the West Region according to MaxPreps. Four of the seven teams above the Crusaders will play in the same CIF Southern Section Division I playoffs — No. 1 Mater Dei, No. 5 Corona Centennial, No. 7 St. John Bosco and No. 16 Mission Viejo.

Bingham (Utah), which shut out Kahuku 17-0 in September, is No. 9.

COMMENTS

  1. TooMeke November 6, 2017 10:45 am

    NICE!!! Just in time for States!

    GOOOOOOOOOOO TROJANS!!!!! lol.

    OIA > ILH

    RRFL.


  2. Coach C November 6, 2017 10:57 am

    Cal, here’s your chance! For your national ranking, you gotta blow out Mililani and Kahuku. Run up the score! York, you need to have an elephant package for St.Louis. just for a change. Mililani needs to thank Kahuku for beating them. A dangerous dog is a beaten dog.


  3. 88 November 6, 2017 12:01 pm

    Crusaders ain’t blowing out nothing. Who have they played? They have never faced an offense like Mililani. The Trojan offense is a machine the likes no one has ever seen and will score at will on the Crusader defense. Sound familiar? lol


  4. Recruit dis November 6, 2017 12:19 pm

    88- narbonne is a way better offense and has way better skilled positions then mililani. It’s so funny how all you kahuku people have know idea about football. You and toomeke know nothing about football. Let me guess mililani is better then Bingham because they put up that much points on your awesome defense. Your defense is no where near what it was last year and now everyone is finding out.


  5. Brannon Bonner November 6, 2017 12:46 pm

    Crusader Strong, Good luck boys, G2G


  6. TooMeke November 6, 2017 12:57 pm

    Narbonne = ZERO running game when they play good teams (just like St LuLu)…and with 3 losses = #272 in nation.

    Avg ranking of teams they beat? 4,959 (two of those teams = >10,000th & >13,000th ranking. lol.

    Millz = way more balanced on offense…and much better defense…than Narbonne…with 1 loss = #184 in the nation.

    Avg ranking of teams they beat (not counting forfeit)? 3,114

    As the numbers show (math tutor session is now over), Millz is better than Narbonne, with better competition.

    And no – Bingham is not better than Millz on offense. Bingham’s offense (if you watched) is not as intricate as Millz – and yet…Millz only scored 10 points in the 2nd half on short fields of play with help from the refs. Because the D made the necessary adjustments, and Millz had no answer.

    DEFENSE (and the ability to run the ball) WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. St LuLu only has half of that formula…they couldn’t run over my grandma’s grave.

    HA!!!!!!!

    RRFL.


  7. TooMeke November 6, 2017 1:03 pm

    Also – I am impressed with the overall average ranking of HI teams (at least Millz competition) when looking at some of these other teams from other states. HI football is pretty good overall. Good for these kids.


  8. ChruchIsTRUE November 6, 2017 1:17 pm

    St. Louis 49
    Trojans 14 final

    Mililani will score late when the Crusaders 4th string D is in.


  9. Awrite!! November 6, 2017 1:44 pm

    I cant make any prediction because this will be a tough matchup. It was easy to say that Kahuku and Mill would blow out the entire OIA competition and it was easy to predict the Kahuku/Mill game because of similar opponents. I actually guessed a 35-21 Kahuku win but the actual score was 35-31.

    With Mill vs STL I cant say what will happen, I can only think back to 2014 when Mill beat Punahou in the title game. I think it will be a scoring fest with a final score of 49-42, who wins? I dont know.


  10. Recruit dis November 6, 2017 3:14 pm

    Toomeke- why don’t you list who they lost too. Throw your damn rankings out the door because mililani only played one descent team wich is kahuku. No running game their running back has how many offers? You better check that too!


  11. JustaMom November 6, 2017 3:45 pm

    Why can’t you just be happy that a Local school, ILH or OIA is nationally ranked? Why so negative? I think this Friday will be a good game, and I’m thinking about going. Not sure who I’ll cheer for but either way, it’ll be a good game. WTG Crusaders for your accomplishments! It takes hard work from not just the coaching staff but the players.

    Awesome win Kahuku on OIA Champs! Tough game and hard fought.

    Waiting for the arguments to start about how Saint Louis recruits and everything else. Seems like no one really likes Saint Louis because they are Saint Louis. I’ve said it before, if they offered my kids a scholarship to go to school there because he’s good at sports and my son(s) want to go, I’d say, “where do I sign and where can I buy a shirt?” in a heartbeat…if my son said no, then so be it. At the end of the day when it comes to recruiting, the student being recruited can always so, “no, thank you”.

    I just don’t get why there is so much negativity against a school from Hawaii that is nationally ranked. Is it so hard to just be happy for them?


  12. Keyser Soze November 6, 2017 5:29 pm

    How can you compare either of these teams to anything? Mililani played a WEAK schedule and steam rolled all of their opponents so how do you gauge how good they are against teams they match up with? They’ve only had one game against a quality opponent and they lost. Saint Louis doesn’t have much to compare either because they play such a idiotic schedule with just the three teams. They did play Narbonne who was most likely their closest match up this season and barely won by only after giving up 50 pts! So my thought is that both of these teams have yet to show how good or bad they really are “consistently”. Friday will help determine that but the game will come down to protecting the ball on Offense and pressuring the QB on Defense. Which ever team can handle those will move on.

    My prediction is Saint Louis moves on only because they have shown that they can fight through tough games whether it was the opposition making it tough for them or themselves having to fight through their own mistakes!


  13. TooMeke November 6, 2017 7:56 pm

    “fight through tough games” is a relatively subjective statement… all depends on the quality of the opponents. Tough for St Louis doesn’t equate into tough for other schools.

    But all that matters at this point is that this week will be their toughest game to date…by far.


  14. HobraH November 6, 2017 8:48 pm

    How can you sit there and claim Trojans offense is the best when the wheels fell of in the 2nd half? Are you seriously saying Narbonne doesn’t have a run game when their RB has D1 offers and Narbonne’s comp is tough? You Kahuku guys pumping up Mils offense because you think no one can score on Kahuku, so Mils must be the best since they score that much. Narbonne would’ve wasted Kahuku. Kahuku would’ve tried their usual physical game and would’ve got beat by a bigger, faster, stronger team. National rankings mean nothing when you will never play each other.


  15. oia November 6, 2017 8:57 pm

    Have Kahuku play Narbonne next year here in Preseason, let’s see what happens, i’m sure Narbonne would whip Kahuku.


  16. ??? November 6, 2017 9:22 pm

    MILILANI 42 – ST LOUIS 35


  17. pssh November 6, 2017 11:12 pm

    Let the kids play and see what happens. We should be supporting them no matter what school they go. The one comment that made sense was Justamom. Some of you dads need to be just dads not analyst. toomeke you are the biggest idiot of them all. I laugh at your nonsense! Probably never even played football!


  18. M November 7, 2017 12:07 am

    Wait to after Mililani plays St. Louis then we can see how good the saints are.


  19. Period November 7, 2017 5:40 am

    St. Louis will dominate Millilani. Superior atheletes, superior coaches. Period.
    St. Louis 56 Millilani 3


  20. Alpha November 7, 2017 6:46 am

    @period. What makes st louis superior?


  21. Crazy Seeding. November 7, 2017 7:45 am

    I don’t post here much, occasionally read the comments. Up front and honest, SL Grad, played D1 Football and will leave it at that. What is lost on a lot of you and what no one seems willing to talk about is the crazy seeding (which was no accident) led by the OIA to make it as hard as possible for St. Louis to win. Yes, I heard the logic associated with this stupidity, that no one wanted a repeat of the OIA championship game. LOL, isn’t that convenient. Only in Hawaii, and only in the OIA does that logic make sense. It’s a disgrace on the people that contributed to that. Saint Louis as the #1 seed should be playing Waianae, the # 4 seed. That’s how the game works. Instead now Saint Louis has to play the # 3 seed and assuming Kahuku wins then they have to play the # 2 seed. If Saint Louis wins both these games, all the negativity that surrounds the hate for Saint Louis needs to just stop, they will have run the gauntlet on both of the best OIA teams in back to back weeks. If you can’t see that, then you have a flaw in ability to reason normally. The bottom line is that the OIA and the seeding committee have stacked the deck against the Crusaders. Props to SL if they win this going away. If you all wanted to give them more motivation for playing at another level, that’s what they just did. I am quite sure Cal will take advantage of that. Kids are going to be pumped after this seeding fiasco. On another note, I prefer to keep it positive and avoid the childish negativity that seems present in a lot of these posting. Good luck to all involved, may the best team win and hopefully none of the kids get hurt and all have a good time.


  22. Crazy Seeding November 7, 2017 7:47 am

    I don’t post here much, occasionally read the comments. Up front and honest, SL Grad, played D1 Football and will leave it at that. What is lost on a lot of you and what no one seems willing to talk about is the crazy seeding (which was no accident) led by the OIA to make it as hard as possible for St. Louis to win. Yes, I heard the logic associated with this stupidity, that no one wanted a repeat of the OIA championship game. LOL, isn’t that convenient. Only in Hawaii, and only in the OIA does that logic make sense. It’s a disgrace on the people that contributed to that. Saint Louis as the #1 seed should be playing Waianae, the # 4 seed. That’s how the game works. Instead now Saint Louis has to play the # 3 seed and assuming Kahuku wins then they have to play the # 2 seed. If Saint Louis wins both these games, all the negativity that surrounds the hate for Saint Louis needs to just stop, they will have run the gauntlet on both of the best OIA teams in back to back weeks. If you can’t see that, then you have a flaw in ability to reason normally. The bottom line is that the OIA and the seeding committee have stacked the deck against the Crusaders. Props to SL if they win this going away. If you all wanted to give them more motivation for playing at another level, that’s what they just did. I am quite sure Cal will take advantage of that. Kids are going to be pumped after this seeding fiasco. On another note, I prefer to keep it positive and avoid the childish negativity that seems present in a lot of these posting. Good luck to all involved, may the best team win and hopefully none of the kids get hurt and all have a good time.


  23. ILHammahz November 7, 2017 9:18 am

    I wanna see Kahuku and Mililani play in the ILH for a season. Lets see how good their record is and if they make the one and only seed for states.


  24. TooMeke November 7, 2017 9:47 am

    Why are the same St Louis fans who didn’t complain last year about the brackets, now complaining?

    I thought St Louis going roll over everybody in HI, so it doesn’t matter who the play…right? Right??

    lmao. cry 4 da baby.

    @ILHammahz – if Big Red and Millz played in ILH they would be #1 & #2…garanz. Why?
    Well…just ONE of the reasons is that all the players from those areas would no longer feel the need to go play for St LuLu, Puns or Kam…they would just stay home and play for home team = a’ole any wins for the current ILH recruiters.

    HA!!!!!!!!!

    RRFL.


  25. TooMeke November 7, 2017 9:50 am

    @HobraH – Millz offense didn’t just “fall apart in the 2nd half”…

    I’m pretty sure Big Red’s D and their half-time adjustments had a little to do with that…just a LITTLE.

    DUH.


  26. Recruit dis November 7, 2017 11:07 am

    Yup if St. Louis beats both mililani and kahuku toomeke and 88 need to shut their mouths and stop talking shit about the crusaders.


  27. Lil Pump November 7, 2017 11:53 am

    There is basically 3 top teams. Whoever wins the Open Championship would have had to beat the other 2 top teams. So the seeding is good.

    Last year Kahuku fans were saying the same thing as they were the #1 seeded team, but were put in the same bracket with the #3 team in Punahou. Unfortunately for the Puns, Kapolei took care of them. But last year it was #1 and #3 on one side and #2 and #4 on the other. It worked out.

    If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Good luck to all 4 remaining teams.


  28. Crazy Seeding November 7, 2017 12:33 pm

    Like I said. Too much negativity in this post. Juice aint worth the squeeze.
    Good luck to all the teams and the Coaches. Best to take the high road.
    I am out.


  29. TooMeke November 7, 2017 12:41 pm

    @Recruit dis – “if this…if that…” blah blah blah

    don’t cry…dry your eye. why so angry? ahhahahahahaaaaaa!!!

    RRFL.


  30. Crazy Seeding November 7, 2017 1:00 pm

    But for what is worth, you folks need to check your math. What you failed to look back at last year is there were six teams that played. 1 (Kahuku) and 2 (St. Louis) got byes. The bracket in any normal bracketing with a six team tournament would look this

    1 plays the winner of 3 and 6
    2 plays the winner of 4 and 5.

    3 should get the benefit of playing the worst team in the Quarterfinal. If there were 8 teams no one would get a bye and 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 4 plays 5. Then after that the winner of 1 v 8 plays the winner of 4 and 5. The winner of 2 v 7 gets the winner of 3 and 6. This breaks down in a six team tournament because you have to give 3 v 6. As it turned out 6 beat 3 and Kahuku got 6.

    In a 4 team bracket it’s not hard, 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. Not tough stuff.

    I said it before. If St. Louis wins, beating theoretically 2 and 3 when 2 got to play 4 instead of 3, everyone can quit whining about how good St. Louis is. Best to lose the hate. I am out for good this time.


  31. Lil Pump November 7, 2017 3:22 pm

    OIA has a six team playoff every single year in almost all sports (football, basketball, soccer) with the top 2 teams getting byes. It is always this:

    #1 playing the winner of #4 and #5
    #2 playing the winner of #3 and #6

    It is the HHSAA tournaments that are always different.


  32. Crazy Seeding November 7, 2017 6:51 pm

    Here’s the simple math, it doesn’t get much easier than this. I don’t care in a six team tourney how you shake it out, it’s 1 vs 4/5 or 3/6. 2 vs 4/5 or 3/6. It’s the same because one and two get byes and the combination of that is exactly equal. Yes, you can make an argument that 1 should get 4/5 but it’s a six team tournament. Notice that the total sum combination of 4/5 and 3/6 is 9. That’s how it is supposed to work. This isn’t hard stuff when you do it right.

    In a four team tournament if it is done right, the two sides add up to the same number.

    1 vs 4 = 5
    2 vs 3 = 5

    The way it is now, is 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4. That’s 4 on one side and 6 on the other. Like I said this isn’t hard stuff. Only people who have blinders on can’t see that. Using last years comparison is retarded because it was a 6 team tourney. It’s like apples and oranges.
    And even if you did use last years approach, 1 played the winner of 3/6 (total ranking is 9) while 2 played the winner of 4/5 (Total 9). All that goes out the window when you have a 4 team tourney. It’s supposed to be 1/4 and 2/3. Totally amazed that people would even argue over this. Just call it for what it is….jacked up.


  33. RRFL November 7, 2017 7:44 pm

    Gonna be funny when the same guys commenting gonna see the post in the future both mililani and kahuku gonna get blown out…..kahuku probably cant even get past the punahou or kamehameha… Lets be real guys… But then again theyre all “recruits”


  34. Lil Pump November 7, 2017 9:14 pm

    Yes 4 team is always 1-4 and 2-3.

    In a 6 team single elimination tournament it is always 1 playing winner of 4 and 5 with 2 playing winner of 3 and 6. Simplying adding up the rankings is not right. 4/5 winner is not the same as a 3/6 winner. The advantage has to go to the #1 seed. OIA does it right. HHSAA shouldn’t even seed because they don’t follow the standard rules. If you don’t believe me, just freaking google it. 6 team single elimination tournament. Lol.


  35. Crazy Seeding November 8, 2017 6:40 am

    Never mind. Were talking about a 4 team tournament. 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Fuzzy math, 1 v 3, 2 v 4. Only in Hawaii, and then someone actually tries to rationalize it, like it makes sense. Might be the difference between an education at an ILH school versus an education at a public school

    Much more respect for just calling it what it is. It’s called intellectual honesty.

    Hope Cal uses it to his advantage. The sad thing is people let their own personal ego’s get in the way of being able to have an honest discussion. LOL, it’s a high school football game. All the kids playing are winners, some will have the experience of being state champs some will not, they have all had successful seasons, and hopefully a few of them will be able to move on to the next level and experience that, which may lead to an even brighter future with the education opportunities they get out of that. In the mean time, only really silly people can’t see the comedy associated with this, just makes the state look bad. And if any of you saw the Iolani Lahainaluna game, the calls in the second half on two of Iolani’s touchdowns that were called back was about as bad as any attempt at trying to rationalize 1 v 3, and 2 v 4 as a normal seeding approach. Make’s Hawaii look like a bunch of hicks.


  36. Kavasquaaa November 8, 2017 10:01 am

    Too much talk. Just wait a couple weeks… #LouGang


  37. TooMeke November 8, 2017 10:52 am

    All the St Lulu alum kissing Cal’s okole like he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    He’s no better a coach than many other coaches in the islands…

    He is the best RECRUITER…by far. Ane and York don’t even come close… Too bad talent alone doesn’t guarantee wins…as we will witness over the next 1 to 2 weeks.

    RRFL.


  38. TooMeke November 8, 2017 10:52 am

    “intellectual honesty”

    stop lying to yourself.

    get it? get it?

    lol…….


  39. Recruit dis November 8, 2017 3:10 pm

    Toomeke- you better hope St. Louis loses to mililani because if not their going to whoop kahuku. We can throw those 2 lunches and you still owe me when you thought punahou was going to smash St. Louis.


  40. G-ma November 8, 2017 8:42 pm

    Good luck boy’s, and have fun playing with all your heart. You are all winners!


  41. TooMeke November 8, 2017 9:29 pm

    hahaha – why you change your name schizo? and as I’ve posted SEVERAL times – still waiting for the details…just let me know.


  42. Nick November 8, 2017 11:16 pm

    Saint Louis vs Mililani will be an exciting game. These are two very talented teams! It’s so awesome when we can see the talent rising in Hawaii sports! It don’t matter what school you are from, what matters is that the boys have fun and play safe! Good job to all of the boys in the 808 state for doing your best this season! Good luck…


  43. kden November 10, 2017 9:24 am

    OIA doesn’t recruit?
    I would say most don’t, but a team such as Mililani ONLY has legitimate kids from their respective district?
    Yeah, just like the other year when Kaiser and Coach Miano won the DII with only kids from Hawaii Kai…..


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