The final voter to keep Saint Louis out of the top spot has finally been swayed.
Wins over two teams that qualified for the state tournament last year by a combined score of 110-7 will do that as the Crusaders have opened the 2017 season looking vastly superior to the rest of the field in the state.
Saint Louis earned all 10 first-place votes and is the unanimous No. 1 team in this week’s Honolulu Star-Advertiser football top 10 released on Monday.
Kahuku (1-0), which had held the other first-place vote over the first two weeks, is ranked second. The Red Raiders were picked second on eight of 10 ballots with one voter placing Kahuku third behind Kapolei and another picking them behind Mililani.
There is a wide range of opinions on the Hurricanes, who defeated Waianae 7-0 on Saturday. Kapolei is ranked fifth this week, behind No. 3 Punahou and No. 4 Mililani, and is picked anywhere from second to sixth on various ballots.
Kamehameha remained No. 6, followed by Campbell, which jumped up two spots from No. 9 to No. 7 following a 26-20 win over Farrington for head coach Darren Johnson‘s first win with the Sabers.
Farrington, which has started 0-2 for the first time since 2013, dropped out of the rankings this week for the first time since Week 7 of that ’13 season. The Govs bounced back from their last 0-2 start with eight consecutive wins to get to the OIA championship game.
Waianae is No. 8, followed by Kailua at No. 9 and Division II Lahainaluna at No. 10.
The Lunas remain ranked following a 34-10 loss to Kamehameha in which Lahainaluna was tied with the Warriors at halftime and trailed by only three after three quarters.
The Surfriders are ranked for the first time since Week 4 of last year following a 44-0 shutout of Moanalua. Kailua has been ranked at least once in three consecutive seasons for the first time since 2002-04 by the Honolulu Advertiser/Honolulu Star-Bulletin.
Hilo, which rolled ‘Iolani 62-35 on Saturday, was the highest vote-getter outside of the top 10. The Vikings (nine), finished one vote behind Lahainaluna, followed by Kapaa (five), Farrington (four) and Damien (two).
TOP 10 GAMES FOR WEEK 3
Friday
No. 2 Kahuku at No. 8 Waianae, 7:30
Leilehua at No. 4 Mililani, 7:30
Buckeye Union (Ariz.) at No. 9 Kailua, 7
Saturday
Castle at No. 5 Kapolei, 6:30
Aiea at No. 7 Campbell, 6:30
Honolulu Star-Advertiser Top 10
| FOOTBALL | ||
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| Updated: 10/23 | ||
| RANK | SCHOOL | VOTES |
| 1. | Kahuku (10) | 100 |
| 2. | Miililani | 86 |
| 3. | Campbell | 81 |
| 4. | Punahou | 73 |
| 5. | Saint Louis | 53 |
| 6. | Kapolei | 50 |
| 7. | Konawaena | 40 |
| 8. | Farrington | 23 |
| 9. | Lahainaluna | 18 |
| 10. | Kamehameha | 8 |
Vikings lookin pretty good. I believe they deserve a little more recognition.
As it should be…for now.
RRFL.
Agree…. it’s not how you start the season it’s how you finish it.
Interesting. I don’t have an issue with the Crusaders being unanimous…for now, but seriously, Big Red below Kapolei, and even more puzzling, below Mililani?
It is what it is, the only poll that really matters is the last one.
RRFL!
Just goes to show that STL and PUN have the ability to recurit and reload year-after-year which make them on a whole different level then the OIA, at least while they are winning, when they are losing they have to bring up the “merger” talks. In 2015 When they lost to Kahuku- Cal went on camera and made the excuse…”it would be nice to play Kahuku in the regular season so we can get used to their smash mouth style”. Sure enough a few months later the ILH proposes to the OIA to combine leagues and offers 3 Million$$$, OIA says no! so they secretly create the Open division format and strong-arm their 2nd ILH team into the tourney.
In 2016 after they beat Kahuku Ron Lee is saying “the competition in the OIA is weaker and we knew it would come back to bite them…we dont have a soft schedule we play Punahou and Kam so we were prepared for them”.
ILH > OIA. The only hope for the OIA is Kahuku. Lets go Kahuku!
The SA sure does love their D2 teams. In their first preseason poll they rank Iolani #10 above D2 defending champs Lahainaluna, then Iolani gets absolutely spanked by Hilo. Logical move is to move the Vikings into Iolani’s #10 slot, right? Nope, they move up yet another D2 team, Lahainaluna.
Yes, of course D2 teams deserve recognition, but not at the expense of equally or more deserving D1 teams. Like many others have said before, make a separate D2 top-10 ranking, then you can recognize more than just one or two of them. Simple.
Stl and Pun keep recruiting?? What an idiot. These parents who can afford the private school gives a rats muli about football. Education is the key to why they send their kids to stl and pun. Don’t hate cause your kids can’t go!
Sorry but I don’t know what planet you live on but a lot if the kids parents I have talked to have one thing on mind is football education never came to mind. My kids went to private for the education although they were athletic school was my priority. And if you say their is no such thing as recruit you are totally wrong. I know from experience my child was recruited for his athletic abilities but he was also smart too. They don’t say athletic scholarship it’s a academic grant or they made up a scholarship and they find the money for that child if they really want them.
Anywaay- if St. Louis recruited then why did the LB leave for kapolei? That should answer your quest about recruiting.
Classof2016 aka edufirst- Two kids from PUN and two from KAM returned home to Kahuku and are starting this year. All four do not have a D1 scholarship offer yet, although they are talented enough to earn one. They felt that at their positions playing for KAM/PUN they wouldnt have gotten any exposure. For the elite kids that are talented enough to play college ball they are very well thinking about football as a tool to higher education so dont tell me that private school familys dont give a rats muli about football, there are plenty kids that left the ILH to get playing time at their OIA schools. The Mililani QB left PUN two years ago is just one example. Watch high school football on oc16 every weekend and you will hear many more kids that left the ILH.
Hi Hyn my best friend.
Your misunderstanding about recruiting is laughable. Recruiting is not only the knock at the door, “Hello, I want to meet your son”, its also the process of marketing and luring talent to your program. The private schools refer to it as PRESTIGE.
The STL crowd will boast all day about how their coaching/facilities and history is a million times better then public schools. If you look at the QB coach Passas and his body of work its a no-brainer for a young elite QB to want to transfer to STL to benefit from that mentoring. When you have more advantages and prestige over your competitors chances are that you will attract the best talent which will result in more titles, which, BTW is another selling point you will hear from STL alumni (the 14 straight prepbowls), this is all an indirect way of recruiting.
To be fair, Kahuku “recruits” too, by getting alumni kids to transfer in, thats no secret but its all in the blood, but they cant offer better facilities or boast of high level academics or coaching, heck they change coaching like they change their underwear…once a year…wit dodo stain.
STL prestige is based on its ability to wins football titles and send their kids to College or the NFL. Its expected and when another school threatens their livelihood you better bet they going step up their game
https://youtu.be/ylvK1ywNLAI?t=4m17s
…Im not sure about the rest of the state but Kahuku and STL know the importance of winning so I cant wait for the championship game already. I think STL is a lock and if Kahuku is fortunate enough to make it to the title game, its going to be another rumble in the jungle. cheeeehooo!
I read it was tuition KAP from SL. Always casualties every year.
Anywaaaays!! Let’s see, St. Louis had a dirt field throughout the majority of their run through the Prep Bowl years. They just got a brand new locker room, that just replaced the one that had from the 1960s, and a brand new weight room courtesy of their alumni. For a long time St. Louis’ athletic facilities weren’t even on par with Punahou, Kamehameha and even Iolani. St. Louis’s athletic history goes back to the old ILH days, when the city public schools were in the league also, and even then public schools were complaining about the private schools. St. Louis athletic history speaks for itself. So far, as I recall, the only ILH school to win the trifecta (football, basketball and baseball championships in the same school year). As far as St. Louis history, you would think a school that been around since 1846 would definitely have some history on its side
anywaays- yeah your right people send there kid over there for better opportunities. But nobody came knocking on the door to invite them. Back in the days when they did recruit it was different. I’m just saying it’s not like that no more.
Toomeke- we still have our friendly wager on when St. Louis plays punahou?
All these recruiting talks and every year Kahuku lands a senior running back from Samoa. If kids had their choice they would choose any ILH school over Kahuku. Only good academic school in the OIA is Miilani. Just my 2 cents
Why do you guys always talk about punahou recruiting….. I know a lot of really good kids that played in JPS applied for punahou and didn’t get in. There’s something called a process ( test, interview) so not everybody gets in. My child is there and plays football but that was his choice to go there. Saint Louis is probably a lot easier to get in but you still have to afford the tuition. There is no such thing as a athletic scholarship but there is financial aid. ( need basis)
I’ve been saying it for several years…the SA Hawaii high school rankings are bogus. I don’t understand their logic about ranking division I and II teams together,,,only in Hawaii..Dah!!! Since the SA sports staff is too lazy to come up with a separate ranking, here’s a sample of what it should look like and you’re invited to provide your opinion. Division I
1. St Louis
2. Kapolei
3. Kahuku
4. Punahou
5. Mililani
6. Kamehameha
7. Waianae
8. Campbell
9. Kailua
10. Hilo
Division II
1. Lahainaluna
2. Kaimuki
3. Iolani
4. St Francis
5. Damien
6. Waimea
7. Kapaa
8.Honokaa
9. Pearl City
10. Waipahu
@Public School: Athletic Scholarship or Financial Aid or whatever you want to call it… it all boils down to providing the financial aid to the exceptional athletes whose parents income can’t afford to qualify for the tuition to attend a private school. If the private school really wants the athlete, there’s always a solution to obtaining the funds not only from the school but other resources…Booster Club or sponsored by a rich Alumni, such as a former professional athlete and its been happening for decades. As an example, Punahou key athletes especially on defense and OL are Polynesians. Just stating the facts.
Aloha my fellow local sports casters and analysts,
Enjoy the season, the debates are interesting but it comes down to athletic ability, coaching, preparation, conditioning and mental toughness. Its football season and I am excited to watch football again. I am always cheering for my Red Raiders to win but I also cheer for other teams and especially for our island athletes as they go beyond high school to represent everything they are including us.
There will always be a disparity between teams whether it is ILH vs OIA, Oahu vs neighbor island, St Louis vs Iolani, Kahuku vs Wailua, etc. We can go on and on but have you ever seen mainland scores? There are as many blowouts if not not more of them and far worse in every sport. Do they complain? Yes, but unfortunately thats how the cookie crumbles when you fall within a criteria that deems you part of a conference/league/division.
Lets continue to coach players up, teach them to play hard and with sportsmanship and get the values that will help them throughout their lives to be successful members of society, faithful husbands and loving fathers.
Happy Football season everyone.
Dont forget success in the classroom, the most important component in the success for the individual and the team. (have to stay eligible to play)
@ anywaaaays!!
I have a question. You keep crying about the ILH, or certain schools within the ILH and their ability to recruit.
But last year for basketball, a really good player enrolled at Kahuku. Kahuku won the title, and by the following Monday this student was nowhere to be seen on campus. He was no longer attending Kahuku High School. And that is more than within his and his family’s right to leave the school.
Maybe St. Louis or Punahou recruit here and there. But, I do not recall anyone leaving school the Monday after they won a state title.
I mean if you are going to call out schools to doing what you perceive as “not ethically correct” why don’t you do the same with your favorite High School with regards to Mr. Fotu.
Or do you think it is okay to come down, play, win, then immediately leave. If you think that is okay, then you are more than entitled to your opinion.
I just find it hilarious that you put on your rose-colored glasses that can only see a few schools. But you cannot see what was going on right below your nose.
anywaaaays!! August 14, 2017 1:34 pm
Just goes to show that STL and PUN have the ability to recurit and reload year-after-year which make them on a whole different level then the OIA, at least while they are winning, when they are losing they have to bring up the “merger” talks. In 2015 When they lost to Kahuku- Cal went on camera and made the excuse…”it would be nice to play Kahuku in the regular season so we can get used to their smash mouth style”. Sure enough a few months later the ILH proposes to the OIA to combine leagues and offers 3 Million$$$, OIA says no! so they secretly create the Open division format and strong-arm their 2nd ILH team into the tourney.
In 2016 after they beat Kahuku Ron Lee is saying “the competition in the OIA is weaker and we knew it would come back to bite them…we dont have a soft schedule we play Punahou and Kam so we were prepared for them”.
ILH > OIA. The only hope for the OIA is Kahuku. Lets go Kahuku!
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Do you have any data to back this up?
We know that the years that most kids get into Punahou are K, 4, 6, 7, 9. If Punahou is recruiting so much, why does the school’s JV team have only 27 kids on it?
At Punahou, 9th graders do not play Varsity, they play JV. If you look at all the kids who played for Punahou since 2006 who made ILH All-Stars, they either came in at grade 9 or before.
The only kid I recall getting in after grade 9 was Luke Kamatule.
So given that you say Punahou recruits heavily and history shows kids get into Punahou at Grade 9, why does JV have only 27 players when Punahou recruits like you say?
I mean people with common sense and can use logic already know the answer. But can you let us know? Or do you just make generalizations with no evidence.
Norhtshore August 15, 2017 5:42 am
@Public School: Athletic Scholarship or Financial Aid or whatever you want to call it… it all boils down to providing the financial aid to the exceptional athletes whose parents income can’t afford to qualify for the tuition to attend a private school. If the private school really wants the athlete, there’s always a solution to obtaining the funds not only from the school but other resources…Booster Club or sponsored by a rich Alumni, such as a former professional athlete and its been happening for decades. As an example, Punahou key athletes especially on defense and OL are Polynesians. Just stating the facts.
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This is information from the website:
Punahou offers financial aid to close to 20% of the student body.
Who determines “need” for financial aid?
Punahou uses School and Student Services (SSS) by the National Association of Independent Schools (NAIS) to calculate your financial need, then the Financial Aid Committee may make adjustments based on the documents and information that you have submitted to us.
Does the Financial Aid Office award scholarships?
All financial aid awards are need-based and are not based on academic achievement, talent (musical, drama, dance, or athletics), or leadership.
So if Punahou offers financial aid to 1/5 students. And the football team doesn’t comprise 20% of student body, that kind of shows that Punahou will give financial assistance to anyone who qualifies.
But when someone is successful and kids want to go there, others have to come up with any old excuse to try and steal their thunder, especially when their child could not get in or they could not afford to send their child there.
Please provide specific evidence of who this has been happening to. Right now you sound like a jealous lover.
Edufirst – read my post above I said Kahuku recruits too but its blood relatives, we have nothing to offer a stranger on the Big island or Maui or Waianae like how you see all these strangers transfering into the ILH. Fotu is the nephew of Mani Fotu from Laie, and for you to point out 1 basketball recruit in the 60 year history of Kahuku basketball is ridiculous compared to the oodles of recruits every year into the ILH for every sport. You are just sour that when a poor, lowly public school does what the ILH does (by recruiting) the playing field become equal and we end up winning. You ILH coaches and dont look so smart when you cant get the talent.
Public school – Your comment about many young jps kids applying and not getting into Punahou is exactly the point im trying to make about indirect recruiting in the form of PRESTIGE/Opportunitys. When is that last time you heard of athletes lining up to apply at Waianae, Kapolei, Kailua, Kahuku? None! Its quite the opposite, kids from all 30 public schools are lining up to get into the ILH.
The private schools dont need to recruit for all 11 positions, in fact they can probably still be competitive with their normal enrollment but its the 2 or 3 slots on defense and 2 or 3 on offense that give them a well rounded “super team” if you will. All of us know its the big polynesians in the trenches that the ILH schools are in need of. So for every 20 elite football players that try to get into punahou, they really only need 4 or 5, the other 15 they can happily reject and say “sorry, your scores were not high enough”, or “your scores are good but can you pay the $20K yearly tuition?” I should know because my nephew passed the test but couldnt afford tuition, he is now a starter on Kahuku defense.
Edufirst – One very prominent Punahou football player (a few years back), got a little of his tuition paid through a diversity scholarship, the rest of his tuition was discounted as one of his parents got hired into the school to take advantage of the staff/child discount. While you are too busy looking at a website the real world is passing you by. Get a life!
Once again let me reiterate. Im not against ILH schools recruiting and offering better education/ athletics to the Kids of Hawaii. What I am against is the crybaby adults of the ILH that feel the need to always be superior over the OIA by tilting everything to their advantage. Trying to merge OIA with the ILH because the ILH started losing titles, forcing their 2nd ILH team into the Open division and guaranteeing Iolani a spot in the middle tier are all examples of the ILHs constant “looking out for their own interests and bottom line”.
Meanwhile…HPW is seriously slacking in doing their job.
Here is a great article about the new partnership between HHSAA and MaxPreps… This is positive news for Hawaii Prep sports.
Where’s the HPW article? Maybe I should apply…?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/PqfYyMTZ8ECBCn9qXklcYg/the-hawaii-high-school-athletic-association-and-maxpreps-announce-five-year-partnership.htm
Hyn – Yessir!
Ainokea St LuLu’s scores vs inferior teams. How does that even come close to helping them prepare…for even Kam? Let alone Puns.
I’m still down.
Hyn – they still knocking on doors…it’s just via email these days.
I know plenny parents whose kids got/getting recruited by ILH.
And good for them. Take advantage of the opportunities.
anywaaaays!! August 15, 2017 1:09 pm
Edufirst – read my post above I said Kahuku recruits too but its blood relatives, we have nothing to offer a stranger on the Big island or Maui or Waianae like how you see all these strangers transfering into the ILH. Fotu is the nephew of Mani Fotu from Laie, and for you to point out 1 basketball recruit in the 60 year history of Kahuku basketball is ridiculous compared to the oodles of recruits every year into the ILH for every sport. You are just sour that when a poor, lowly public school does what the ILH does (by recruiting) the playing field become equal and we end up winning. You ILH coaches and dont look so smart when you cant get the talent.
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This isn’t just what you have written above. It is basically what you have written, inferred, insinuated over the past year. It is irrelevant if a someone is going there and you are using “blood” as an excuse. That is just weak. Call it what it is.
The truth is, based on the aftermath, Fotu never came to Kahuku for academics. If he did he would have continued and finished out the year. He came to help them win. Nothing is wrong with that since there is no rule prohibiting it.
But in my opinion, bringing in a kid to help a team win, most likely knowing he will leave the Monday after the game is won, basically tell me:
1) The coach isn’t confident in his ability to make his kids better
2) The coach doesn’t believe in the kids on the current roster
Who cares if Fotu is the son of Akana. The truth is he came, with no intention of coming for academics, and left as soon as they won. It’s pretty chicken of you to try and mask it by saying it’s someone’s relative.
So since he’s Mani Fotu’s relative it’s okay to come and leave 2 days later? Let me ask you this then. Would it not be okay if he wasn’t related to someone in Kahuku and did the same thing?
It’s amazing that you lack transparency.
If Punahou or St. Louis did something like this you would probably contact NAACP, your panties would be very soiled, and the server on here would probably shut down for 1-2 days while the technicians had to fix it since you would be posting like crazy crying like a baby.
Like I said, no rule against it. They won and that’s great. But to play like it’s okay since it’s some dude’s relative is pretty chicken crap.
And you know it is.
anywaaaays!! August 15, 2017 1:27 pm
Public school – Your comment about many young jps kids applying and not getting into Punahou is exactly the point im trying to make about indirect recruiting in the form of PRESTIGE/Opportunitys. When is that last time you heard of athletes lining up to apply at Waianae, Kapolei, Kailua, Kahuku? None! Its quite the opposite, kids from all 30 public schools are lining up to get into the ILH.
The private schools dont need to recruit for all 11 positions, in fact they can probably still be competitive with their normal enrollment but its the 2 or 3 slots on defense and 2 or 3 on offense that give them a well rounded “super team” if you will. All of us know its the big polynesians in the trenches that the ILH schools are in need of. So for every 20 elite football players that try to get into punahou, they really only need 4 or 5, the other 15 they can happily reject and say “sorry, your scores were not high enough”, or “your scores are good but can you pay the $20K yearly tuition?” I should know because my nephew passed the test but couldnt afford tuition, he is now a starter on Kahuku defense.
Edufirst – One very prominent Punahou football player (a few years back), got a little of his tuition paid through a diversity scholarship, the rest of his tuition was discounted as one of his parents got hired into the school to take advantage of the staff/child discount. While you are too busy looking at a website the real world is passing you by. Get a life!
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Punahou has had the lowest amount of kids apply this past year for the 2017-2018 year due to the high tuition.
If you notice, I use facts and figures to support my argument. You just write long winded posts (not too articulate though) and hope you confuse people with the poor grammar, lack of an intelligent thought, and inability to compose and argument supported by data.
And 1 very prominent player is your evidence? Wow, 1 out of 80 kids on the team. And if you factor that over a 8 year period, that is not even 1%. Wow, that is such convincing evidence! BWAHAHAH!
Finally you are telling people to get a life? Man you live only for Kahuku football that you never really played. It’s pretty obvious that you suffer from a condition where you have have regrets about:
1) not being admitted into any ILH School
2) not making enough money to send your child to an ILH School
3) never played football for Kahuku
So not to compensate, you come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories. You camp out and watch Kahuku teenagers play a sport (which is very scary btw). And you come on here with anger due to the points listed above.
And if having a life means I have to be like you, then I am perfectly fine without “HAVING A LIFE.”
BWAHAHAHHA!!
#winning
anywaaaays!! August 15, 2017 1:38 pm
Once again let me reiterate. Im not against ILH schools recruiting and offering better education/ athletics to the Kids of Hawaii. What I am against is the crybaby adults of the ILH that feel the need to always be superior over the OIA by tilting everything to their advantage.
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This just made my day.
Anywaaaays is calling someone a crybaby! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
What?! Edu no can hando the facts?! I bet I can do more pull-ups then you!
No one knew Fotu was going to leave after the season that was his own personal decision based on a family situation. So please state facts that the kahuku athletic dept told him to come and play the season and go back home? You cant! so stop crying. You just jealous that Kahuku has deep roots and blood pipeline in polynesia, you cannot hando the fact that when a public school outshines your private school your market value and prestige take a hit.
I hope another Fotu “like” player or players keep coming to Kahuku or any public school to help beat the ILH at their own recruiting game. You crying about something at Kahuku that happened ONLY ONE yr where no rules were broken is like you crying about Cal Lees prep bowl dynasty with 19yr old 5th year seniors that lasted 14 YEARS.
TooMeke August 15, 2017 1:45 pm
Hyn – they still knocking on doors…it’s just via email these days.
I know plenny parents whose kids got/getting recruited by ILH.
And good for them. Take advantage of the opportunities.
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EXACTLY! TooMeke, I also know a few kids that are in contact with ILH “recruiters”. Good on them but stay in yo lane!
@Education First: How convenient for you to go to the website and quote the School Student Services (SSS) on how they calculate the financial need. All financial aid awarded are need-based and are not based on academic achievement, talent or leadership…I know that and don’t have to go to the website to find that out. The fact of the matter is, there’s other resources that exceptional athletes are provided with financial aid that you failed to mention. Booster club members and successful alumni have provided the athletes with financial aid and if your not aware of this process, you’re very naive and surely I don’t have to disclose it to you because you won’t find on a website. Right now you sound like a person that is not well inform.
Both public and private schools recruit. That’a just one of those things that everyone needs to accept. Until the powers that be finally does something about it, it’ll keep happening. Who recruits the “best” will end up on top. And speaking of Fotu, heard there is yet another Fotu coming to just play basketball this season. Let’s see if that rumor is true.
Toomeke anywaays- I can tell you this for a fact. all the starters on this year was not recruited and came here for better opportunities. I don’t know about the younger kids. This is probably going to be one of the best teams St. Louis has in cal lee recent years and they weren’t recruited.
What are you labeling a recruiter as someone saying your soon is good so you should send him to St. Louis but you have to pay your own tuition. If that’s the case give me a break.
Toomeke- yes and we doing both games.
If you call Waianae an inferior team let’s see how you guys do this week.
And yet St. Louis wasn’t the school that had to forfeit its games for using an ineligible (over the age limit) student. 5th year Seniors at a private school? No such thing, they either transfer to a public school or drop out of school altogether because the academic requirements to even compete in sports on a weekly basis wouldn’t allow them to even stay in the private school.
Punahou and all the ILH teams are crying about fotu.!! you guys are going to be crying More this year because a Half Samoan Half Black 6-9 Tapusoa kid (yes he’s related to kuJ and Aarron Tapusoa first Cousin) From Mississippi just Enrolled at Kahuku last week and is here to Play Ball for the Red Raiders and he has all kines of Offers from some big time College’s.
Yup that Tapusoa kid is beast, not to mention Fotu is only a Jr and will be back too, hahaa! edufirst must be rolling over in his mothers basement bed crying. Lucky for the ILH Jabari Parker didnt come to Kahuku in 2012 because his Tongan mother is from Laie.
So because your family or long lost uncle lives in Kahuku and you live in another school district but move to live with your uncle while your mom and dad live outside of Kahuku its not considered recruiting? Give me a break. BTW isn’t Vili Fisiahi from Palolo but played for Kahuku? Let’s not forget to mention kids being turned back in customs for trying to attend Kahuku and they not even US citizens.
Northshore August 15, 2017 3:34 pm
@Education First: How convenient for you to go to the website and quote the School Student Services (SSS) on how they calculate the financial need. All financial aid awarded are need-based and are not based on academic achievement, talent or leadership…I know that and don’t have to go to the website to find that out. The fact of the matter is, there’s other resources that exceptional athletes are provided with financial aid that you failed to mention. Booster club members and successful alumni have provided the athletes with financial aid and if your not aware of this process, you’re very naive and surely I don’t have to disclose it to you because you won’t find on a website. Right now you sound like a person that is not well inform.
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Sir you list so many things, but offer no specifics.
Anyone can go on a website and say anything you want. Can you give specific examples or provide detailed evidence. I don’t know where you are from, but when utilizing the writing process, you are challenged to provide the burden of proof to support any argument you make.
And if you are going to talk about Doc Ching taking care of the Ah You Boy, or the Tagoi kid, or the Heffernan kid back in the be specific. If you are talking about Buckner getting alumni help, then be specific.
Regardless, the ones who do get help from some alumni is so little, we are talking maybe 1-2 kids a year if that much. That number is so low, that if you ever did any kind of scientific research, you wouldn’t count on that just to eliminate bias from your target group and data collection.
It’s so convenient for people to say whatever they want and offer no evidence. But, I guarantee you this. If people had to put their real names I am pretty confident then would list half of this nonsense since they wouldn’t want the entire world to know how uneducated or ignorant they are.
But when again, I am probably wrong, since they really do not know what they are doing and they think the are making a scholarly response.
#SMH
Manoa#1 August 15, 2017 10:18 pm
Punahou and all the ILH teams are crying about fotu.!! you guys are going to be crying More this year because a Half Samoan Half Black 6-9 Tapusoa kid (yes he’s related to kuJ and Aarron Tapusoa first Cousin) From Mississippi just Enrolled at Kahuku last week and is here to Play Ball for the Red Raiders and he has all kines of Offers from some big time College’s.
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Nothing wrong if the kids plans to attend Kahuku and stay there. But if he leaves on the Monday after states then that is just sad. But when you have the coach who got UH penalized by the NCAA running things, these things will happen.
But when you are not really good at academics, all of you Kahuku supporters will have to hitch your wagon to anything successful. It’s just too bad you cannot hitch your wagon to anything academic.
You can take your state titles, low academics, high poverty rate, high unemployment, high level of obesity. Personally, I’d rather have my kids only play jacks and hopscotch, but have the ability to count above 10 without having to take my donated shoes off.
Manoa#1 August 15, 2017 10:18 pm
Punahou and all the ILH teams are crying about fotu.!!
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@ Manoa#1….you really think Punahou is crying when many of their graduates go to Ivy League schools or top Universities around the nation while Kahuku kids (if they do graduate) would be lucky to get a part time job saying “Would you like this super-sized?”
You my friend, are really not in touch with reality if you think Punahou supporters are crying about football or other sports. Now if you are talking about having to pay $24,000+ a year for tuition, that is a different story.
Hyn – if Waianae crosses 50-yd line, I’ll be surprised.
And if you call “financial aid” *eyes rolling* = “pay your own tuition”…ok…
I know some of the coaches on both StL and Puns… all those kids from public schools getting aid…and they all got letters “inviting” them to those respective schools (ps – they weren’t invited for their academic potential).
Like I said…more power to the kids and families. Go get theirs.
Just don’t go around with blinders on saying “no…they no recruit.” That’s just beating a dead horse…
Both games? Shoots. It’ll probably end up being 3 in the end.
@ TooMeke, which coaches do you know? As for these letters “inviting” them, are they from the admissions offices or the coaches?
All kids who get in get letter inviting them to attend the school from the admissions office. This is common practice for all private schools.
Toomeke- let me see some evidence because I know at least 6 kids at St. Louis that have d1 scholarships and was not recruited. They all went there on their own.
Yes they offer financial aid but it ain’t that much. Don’t you remember about 4 years ago they were thinking about shutting the school down because of NO MONEY!
Hyn – STL was running out of money because they wasnt winning football titles, for a school like STL who thrives off the image of being the TOP football school in Hawaii, Championships increases morale and puts confidence back into the alumni to send their kids there and boosters to continue donating money. Why do you think they brought Cal Lee back? because he is a politician more then a coach, he can get things done in the back room (bending rules, working through loop holes, recruiting, raising booster money) which makes things on the field a whole lot easier. 14 prep bowl titles is easy when you are the only team recruiting 19yr old 5th yr seniors. Now that hes back he flying kids in from outer island. Im not hating, just stating facts to back up the fact that you mentioned about STL shutting their doors.
@anywaaays, how many 19 year olds did St. Louis average per year on the team? And of these 19 year olds, how many of them actually got significant playing time or started?
You bring up things but rarely offer any proof.
I will start you out and you can fill in the blanks
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Also, I heard that when Kahuku was winning state titles in 2000 and later, they “allegedly” were altering birth certificates. Many of the kids who actually played were between 25 – 29 years of age.
I mean, how hard is it to win title when you have kids that were anywhere from 8 – 12 years older and at their full physical prime.
I don’t need to provide any evidence. I am like “ANYWAAAYS” and whatever I say is the truth.
I am just stating “facts” like anywaaays does. Man, suiting up kids who are 25 – 29 is a HUGE advantage.