No looking back for Kahuku football team

Kahuku players scrambled to recover one of three fumbles by Bishop Gorman QB Tate Martell during a 35-7 loss to the Gaels last Saturday. David Becker / Special to the Star-Advertiser.
Kahuku players scrambled to recover one of three fumbles by Bishop Gorman QB Tate Martell during a 35-7 loss to the Gaels last Saturday. David Becker / Special to the Star-Advertiser.

In Kahuku to cover the Red Raiders volleyball match Wednesday, Hawaii Prep World personnel noticed lights at Carleton Weimer Field on and the varsity football team putting some equipment away after practice.

A good time to find out more about their trip to Las Vegas last weekend? Not exactly.

One thing HPW did learn, however, is that the 35-7 loss on Saturday to national No. 1 Bishop Gorman is already a distant memory.


Head coach Vavae Tata had left moments earlier, according to some players and parents.

“We’re looking toward this weekend and playing a game against (Na Menehune),” cornerback Kekaula Kaninho said. “That’s all we’re thinking about now.”


Logan Matagi, a linebacker and defensive lineman, echoed that sentiment.

“We’re way beyond that game,” he said, referring to Kahuku’s first loss since before Tata was hired. “Moanalua is our focus right now.”


Kahuku (5-1, 5-0 OIA Blue), No. 24 in the nation in the USA Today Super 25, visits Na Menehune (3-3, 2-3) on Saturday night.

The Red Raiders close the regular season with a game at Kaiser (2-5, 1-5) on Sept. 30 before the OIA playoffs begin the following week.

COMMENTS

  1. RuggedSlopes September 21, 2016 9:29 pm

    Who cares about this game. Why wouldn’t you post something about the Punahou/ Kam game or another better featured OIA game. Kahuku vs Moanalua?? Talk about feeding the dead.


  2. Manley September 21, 2016 10:27 pm

    Probably because when Kahuku is on the HPW, the comment hits exceeds 150 per story. The rest of HS post gets maybe 8 ,total combined. The HS football community cannot get enough of the Kahuku Story. Watch the hits “Come marching In”.


  3. Alpha September 21, 2016 10:30 pm

    Just for football talk sake, if Farrington beats Kapolei that puts a 3way tie for 5th & 6th seed in the opening. Kapolei, Mililani, Farrington who would be left out? If it were based by overall record then Kapolei would be out with 2 losses, but if it were only red division record then who’s left out? Just somthing to ponder outside of what’s been going on with the comment section.


  4. 808Savage September 21, 2016 11:04 pm

    Alpha September 21, 2016 at 10:30 pm
    Just for football talk sake, if Farrington beats Kapolei that puts a 3way tie for 5th & 6th seed in the opening. Kapolei, Mililani, Farrington who would be left out? If it were based by overall record then Kapolei would be out with 2 losses, but if it were only red division record then who’s left out? Just somthing to ponder outside of what’s been going on with the comment section.

    I will fail to comment or elaborate on the Kapolei & Farrington Programs. Once again, they are both programs led by coaches who have been HC’s for decades with nothing accomplished. No OIA title, NOTHING. Kapolei, Campbell, Waianae & Nanakuli all are amongst schools that recycle players. Nothing goes right with inconsistency. Farrington seems to not get anything right every year. Known for one of the biggest linemen & great RB’s since Okimoto’s time but nobody ever hears about them after high school..


  5. Alpha September 21, 2016 11:10 pm

    @808savage…. but the scenario I came up with, who would be the 5th & 6th seed. We all know it doesn’t but just to ponder on somthing other then the obvious.


  6. 808Savage September 21, 2016 11:12 pm

    Manley September 21, 2016 at 10:27 pm
    Probably because when Kahuku is on the HPW, the comment hits exceeds 150 per story. The rest of HS post gets maybe 8 ,total combined. The HS football community cannot get enough of the Kahuku Story. Watch the hits “Come marching In”.

    All these RR Fans wonder why they get the heat for everyone being Anti-Kahuku. HPW only features them for the OIA. Even if its a rubbish game like this upcoming weekend or next weekend.. HPW got the “Kahuku Envy”. I have yet to see them cover the other teams competing for the other division’s playoffs. If a job consisted of writing about one particular school every other article. We all should’ve became sports writers. This is just ridiculous. What more hype does Kahuku & their fans need after a loss? They play Moanalua, they could possibly be the last seed in the new D1 division which means in a mind of reality. They are nonexistent in the big boy division. Great hype HPW, this article is irrelevant in numerous ways.


  7. 808Savage September 21, 2016 11:18 pm

    Alpha September 21, 2016 at 11:10 pm
    @808savage…. but the scenario I came up with, who would be the 5th & 6th seed. We all know it doesn’t but just to ponder on somthing other then the obvious.

    I would think about that more in depth if Farrington could make it out of the first round of a state appearance. But since they can’t seem to do so I wouldn’t put any money on Farrington or Kapolei. Mililani is too inconsistent with they’re missing pieces & young QB. I heard that their HC is on his way out soon also. But to answer your question, if you’re looking at it from a competitive stand point & matching best for best. It really doesn’t matter which of the 3 teams make it. They won’t last in the states.


  8. Alpha September 21, 2016 11:37 pm

    Also, I’m thinking of reaching out to this Challen kid. Your absolutely right about Farrington’s history with O-linman and RB’s… it’s sad that it takes going to private schools to get some of the talent out to the next level. It’s not a knock on the ilh, you get what you pay for correct? I mean, you pay $$$$ for good education your ass better be going to college. I read the comments and aside from the personal attacks, some of you guys do have a point. And reading the article on Faamatau is really sad, Hawaii is overflowing with football talent but the the grades and test scores is what separates these kids from college and high school legend status. some of these kids probably don’t have someone to help with sat prep, scholarship letters etc…. I come from the big city, and we didn’t have this much football talent compressed in such a little area like Oahu. Every oia school has a potential Div1 ncaa football star on their team, maybe they just need that one person to get them over the hump. . . #Blindside…..


  9. 87 September 21, 2016 11:45 pm

    They gonna throw more then 4 passes this week? thats the suspense we all want to know about. Im serious.


  10. 808Savage September 22, 2016 12:01 am

    Alpha September 21, 2016 at 11:37 pm
    Also, I’m thinking of reaching out to this Challen kid. Your absolutely right about Farrington’s history with O-linman and RB’s… it’s sad that it takes going to private schools to get some of the talent out to the next level. It’s not a knock on the ilh, you get what you pay for correct? I mean, you pay $$$$ for good education your ass better be going to college. I read the comments and aside from the personal attacks, some of you guys do have a point. And reading the article on Faamatau is really sad, Hawaii is overflowing with football talent but the the grades and test scores is what separates these kids from college and high school legend status. some of these kids probably don’t have someone to help with sat prep, scholarship letters etc…. I come from the big city, and we didn’t have this much football talent compressed in such a little area like Oahu. Every oia school has a potential Div1 ncaa football star on their team, maybe they just need that one person to get them over the hump. . . #Blindside…..

    The core problem with Farrington kids are their peers. If gang banging & dope is what their life is revolved around everyday. Its hard to rescue a talented kid from the influence that surrounds them. You would think that Okimoto is there for a reason outside of football but I guess helping them get to the next level isn’t within his contract or demands. All of these kids get swallowed by influence & they become only knowing one way. And unfortunately the “one way” is playing the game with the law.


  11. 808Savage September 22, 2016 12:04 am

    87 September 21, 2016 at 11:45 pm
    They gonna throw more then 4 passes this week? thats the suspense we all want to know about. Im serious.

    Over/Under 8 Pass Attempts
    Over /Under 4th Qtr Starting Defense Comes out of the game
    Over/Under 80 total pts.

    What’s the odds if Coach Tata smiles during his post game interview?


  12. Red Raider 4 Life September 22, 2016 4:21 am

    808Savage “Farrington seems to not get anything right every year. Known for one of the biggest linemen & great RB’s since Okimoto’s time but nobody ever hears about them after high school..”

    That is so true on Farrington. I remember the years where they started the season missing key players because of grades. I know most public schools also had that problem like the Waianaes and Kahuku’s.

    It is up to us adults to step in and mentor ALL of our future generations and have them all strive to continue onto higher education for a better future and it all starts at home. That is the way my siblings and I were taught and that is what I instilled onto my kids today, to be better then both my wife and I.

    I know that Kahuku has been moving that way for some time now as a whole, and yes, its still a huge work in progress, but its moving in the right direction, education then sports (it so hard not to put First in there) for education will determine how far you get in life.
    Peace Out RR4L


  13. Jason Keuma September 22, 2016 8:02 am

    I thought other teams had their own page. I was wrong. I went to see what and how other poster commented only to find out this is the only page.

    Kahuku does not win “all the time”, it wins just under half the time. If they take it all this year, then you can accurately say they win it half the time. I believe that they will win it all, of course I was one of those “delusional” people hoping that they would pull out a win with their efficient “pop warner” offense and stingy defense.

    Prior to the BG loss, Kahuku was averaging just under 300 yards offense, yet scoring 40+ points a game, while allowing less than 5 points a game. That is pretty efficient. the 83-0 blow out only produced 270 yards offense.

    The one thing I regret about the BG game is that it gave St. Louis a road map on how to beat Kahuku.

    I guess I am not a fan of high scoring football games where both teams move the ball all the way down the field in 1:23. It says that there was no defense on either side. ( St Lois /Punahoe games, Liberty / Mililani game). I like seeing defensive scoring.


  14. ilh September 22, 2016 9:40 am

    With the new play off system for the State Tournament with St. Louis and Punahou on opposite sides of the Bracket will be interesting to see how far Kahuku will go, even though Kahuku has a great defense, there offense is not great, this year Punahou and St. Louis is even stronger on offense.


  15. al September 22, 2016 10:02 am

    Jason Keuma”Kahuku does not win “all the time”, it wins just under half the time. If they take it all this year, then you can accurately say they win it half the time.”

    Some of your fellow RR4L! fans don’t seem to understand this. Hence the hate towards them. But yes, overall, Kahuku has a very successful football program.


  16. al September 22, 2016 10:19 am

    Alpha: ” I mean, you pay $$$$ for good education your ass better be going to college. I read the comments and aside from the personal attacks, some of you guys do have a point”

    You have a weird view of what a ‘personal attack’ is. On that farrington blog post, I didn’t see anyone personally attacking the kid.

    ” And reading the article on Faamatau is really sad, Hawaii is overflowing with football talent but the the grades and test scores is what separates these kids from college and high school legend status. some of these kids probably don’t have someone to help with sat prep, scholarship letters etc…”

    It starts with community support and more importantly, parent support. Ignoring all the issues with standardized education and NCLB which kills kids’ interest in school, it’s hard to get a kid interested in homework and hitting the books if their parents aren’t an active player in their child’s education. It needs to be as much of a priority as sports. a 400 SAT score to qualify for NCAA scholarships is pretty low. There are a lot of universities who won’t even accept you with that score. There are parents who actively care and push their child in the classroom and on the field in public school, and there are A LOT who don’t give a damn.

    With private schools, yes they have much better facilities (especially air conditioning), technology, teachers, and so on. But a big factor in the academic success of private school is that the parents care. And they better if they’re spending $35,000/year on their child’s education.


  17. Jason Keuma September 22, 2016 10:33 am

    @ILH. If Kahuku can beat the ILH winner, why would it not beat the ILH second place?

    Let’s say the ILH has a playoff, the second place team gets into states and gets a chance to become state champion?

    Why not just one champion from each league? I think it is unfair that the OIA gets so many into states, but really, when did the second place OIA ever get to the final game?

    One team per league play off. I would have hated to see Mililani play Kahuku in the state championship, Remember a few years ago when Alabama and LSU played each other for the national championship? Avoid the fiasco, learn from the BCS experiment go to a 4 plus 1 championship format.

    While we are solving problems. Cram everyone in NCAA D1 into 8 conferences. One champion from each conference, playoff. Divide conference by geographical location as to reduce travel. National champion, they really missed the boat with the 4 plus 1, should have made it 8 playoff or 16, due to the number of teams throughout the country.

    Anyway, it’s all football related. Back to HI high school football. I like Waianaes’ improvement.


  18. 87 September 22, 2016 10:47 am

    outline to beat kahuku? there is no blueprint just be bigger faster stronger, dont take a genius to figure that out and it took the #1 team in the nation to do it, goodluck if hawaii has a team as athletic as Bishop Gorman


  19. TooMeke September 22, 2016 11:27 am

    hey HPW:

    can you guys post a story about Damien’s championship riflery team?

    or maybe St Mary’s championship …hmmm… team?

    better yet write more stories about Kam’s improved defense and run game that gives them an outside chance at beating Puns or St LuLu…?

    ANYTHING but a story about Big Red…so we can get a break from all the idiots in the room?

    pretty please? with sugar on top?? and some li hing mui powder???

    HA!

    RRFL!!


  20. Alpha September 22, 2016 11:44 am

    @al…. I read the comments and aside from the personal attacks, some of you guys do have a point.

    My comment wasn’t referring to the article.


  21. 808Savage September 22, 2016 11:45 am

    Jason Keuma September 22, 2016 at 8:02 am
    I thought other teams had their own page. I was wrong. I went to see what and how other poster commented only to find out this is the only page.

    Kahuku does not win “all the time”, it wins just under half the time. If they take it all this year, then you can accurately say they win it half the time. I believe that they will win it all, of course I was one of those “delusional” people hoping that they would pull out a win with their efficient “pop warner” offense and stingy defense.

    Prior to the BG loss, Kahuku was averaging just under 300 yards offense, yet scoring 40+ points a game, while allowing less than 5 points a game. That is pretty efficient. the 83-0 blow out only produced 270 yards offense.

    The one thing I regret about the BG game is that it gave St. Louis a road map on how to beat Kahuku.

    I guess I am not a fan of high scoring football games where both teams move the ball all the way down the field in 1:23. It says that there was no defense on either side. ( St Lois /Punahoe games, Liberty / Mililani game). I like seeing defensive scoring.

    I like the fact that multiple Kahuku supporters have the excuse of BG beating Kahuku give the ILH having a “road map” on beating them. Kahuku has an awesome Defensive scheme I’ll give them that. But to get a clear view of the so called “offense”, it isn’t rocket science to know what RR will do every play. Dive left & dive right in a jumbo package. The one thing that’s different from Kahuku this year is that they had a way better D last year than this season. The Punahou & St. Louis offense will score on the Kahuku D. The question will be if Kahuku can keep up on offense when they are behind. If Kahuku cannot score on Defense or Special Teams they will have a hard time.
    I think Kahuku won’t make it out of the Semi Final game against Punahou. And if they do, they’ll have St. Louis to play right after. It isn’t a cake walk for the #1 OIA anymore.


  22. Alpha September 22, 2016 11:56 am

    @al. . . Comments in general.


  23. LohuiLani September 22, 2016 12:07 pm

    iLH said “With the new play off system for the State Tournament with St. Louis and Punahou on opposite sides of the Bracket will be interesting to see how far Kahuku will go, even though Kahuku has a great defense, there offense is not great, this year Punahou and St. Louis is even stronger on offense.”
    ———————————-

    Thank you ILH for confirming what myself and the rest of the “delusional” Kahuku fans have been accusing the ILH of…”When the ILH is not winning something is wrong and things need to change. The ILH could careless about the ONE and DONE Mules of 2004 or the ONE and DONE Trojans of 2014 its Kahuku that has a target on their back”


  24. 808Savage September 22, 2016 12:15 pm

    87 September 22, 2016 at 10:47 am
    outline to beat kahuku? there is no blueprint just be bigger faster stronger, dont take a genius to figure that out and it took the #1 team in the nation to do it, goodluck if hawaii has a team as athletic as Bishop Gorman

    Why does everyone make like Kahuku is this superior dominant team that can’t be beaten here on island? Look at who the played THIS SEASON leading up to Groman & look who they play to end their season (Moanalua & Kaiser). There is no team on their OIA schedule that can compare to a top OIA school which is Punahou or St. Louis. OIA supporters may say, “They beat Waianae & Waianae beat Kamehameha”. That is irrelevant, just look at how Punahou exposed what that Kamehameha/Waianae game really meant when they smashed Kamehameha. Kahuku’s D isn’t as dominant as last season. Young corners & D-Line with no experience against aggressive receivers. What schools in the OIA throws the ball like a ILH team? None!
    Kahuku won’t make it out of the Semi Final game. I think Punahou has an edge over RR.


  25. 808Savage September 22, 2016 12:36 pm

    LohuiLani:
    Thank you ILH for confirming what myself and the rest of the “delusional” Kahuku fans have been accusing the ILH of…”When the ILH is not winning something is wrong and things need to change. The ILH could careless about the ONE and DONE Mules of 2004 or the ONE and DONE Trojans of 2014 its Kahuku that has a target on their back”

    Before digging into the archieve & using it as a wise reference. You need to reconfirm that Leilehua actually won in 2004 & get it correct.

    For supporters to prioritize football as a way of life & live through high school kids. The word
    “Delusional” is on point. The community fails to value that kids go to school to get an education not to live through sports.


  26. 808Savage September 22, 2016 1:23 pm

    88 September 22, 2016 at 1:12 pm
    These FAKE A$$ KAHUKU SUPPORTERS not only live there twisted lives through these kids they are also quick to forget when one of their very own gets hurt. You HALF STEPPING FAKE KAHUKU A$$HOLES are real quick to come on here and post about how much pride and support you have for these kids, really? If you D!CKS had any pride then why the hell is there only 2 post of well wishes when one of our kids goes down with a potentially season ending injury…. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU FAKAS GO DRINK A CUP OF BLEACH!

    Another loop hole to Team Delusional.
    Only worried about success not about the team.


  27. 87 September 22, 2016 1:58 pm

    so much mad bro? just ignore idiotic posts instead of letting it allow your blood to boil. post season will be entertaining.


  28. al September 22, 2016 5:25 pm

    “88 September 22, 2016 at 1:12 pm
    These FAKE A$$ KAHUKU SUPPORTERS not only live there twisted lives through these kids they are also quick to forget when one of their very own gets hurt. You HALF STEPPING FAKE KAHUKU A$$HOLES are real quick to come on here and post about how much pride and support you have for these kids, really? If you D!CKS had any pride then why the hell is there only 2 post of well wishes when one of our kids goes down with a potentially season ending injury…. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF YOU FAKAS GO DRINK A CUP OF BLEACH!”

    You forgot to add at the end “RR4L!”

    You, your boy kahukuwrckless, and your other boy with the multiple accounts, red x (a.k.a. 808 RR4L) are really doing your community proud!


  29. Jason Keuma September 23, 2016 3:25 pm

    people learn the proper use of “their” and “there”. I’m hoping it is simply a talk text issue and not a poor English issue.

    The ironic thing is who is guilty of this slaughtering of the English language.


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