Many (many) happy returns for Kahuku

Kahuku's Stokes Nihipali-Botelho has scored eight touchdowns this season on defense and special teams. Photo by Bruce Asato/Star-Advertiser.
Kahuku’s Stokes Nihipali-Botelho has scored eight touchdowns this season on defense and special teams. Photo by Bruce Asato/Star-Advertiser.

Keeping the Kahuku defense out of the end zone has become just as difficult as scoring on the Red Raiders.

The Red Raiders defense has contributed nine touchdowns to Kahuku’s scoring total this season while allowing just four against OIA competition. With cornerback Kekaula Kaniho’s 33-yard interception return in Friday’s 63-0 OIA Division I quarterfinal win over Leilehua, the Red Raiders have scored a defensive touchdown in seven of their nine games overall.

That doesn’t even count the seven touchdowns provided by Kahuku’s special teams units. Stokes Nihipali-Botelho, the cornerback opposite Kaniho, sparked Friday’s rout with a 64-yard punt return for his eighth touchdown return of the season (four kickoffs, two punts, two interceptions).


“Special teams and defense is always a bonus because our offense always puts points on the board,” Nihipali-Botelho said. “Defense and special teams is like icing on the cake.”

Nihipali-Botelho and Kaniho lit the candle on Friday by accounting for two of the Red Raiders’ first three touchdowns in Kahuku’s 21st consecutive win against Hawaii opponents. The OIA quarterfinal win sent the Red Raiders into the semifinals and secured a spot in the state tournament’s Open Division.

“Every week we’re just trying to stay on the ascent and get better and better and right now is the time where we really want to peak as a team going into the playoffs,” Kaniho said. “We’ll just take it week by week.”

Friday’s shutout was Kahuku’s fifth of the season and 11th during the current win streak and they’ve scored 19 defensive touchdowns in that span.

With eight touchdowns, Nihipali-Botelho ranks second on the team, one behind running back Elvis Vakapuna, who scored his ninth during Kahuku’s 49-point first-half outburst on Friday. Nihipali-Botelho went 9-for-9 on PAT kicks and the only blemish on his night was a 45-yard field goal attempt that had ample distance but went wide left in the fourth quarter.

“Stokes is just a consummate team player,” Kahuku coach Vavae Tata said. “He does it all. Selfless player, he’s team first, that’s what we try to preach to the entire team.”

Kaniho caught safety Kesi Ah-Hoy with his third touchdown return of the season (two interceptions, one punt). Overall, Ah-Hoy added a rushing touchdown to his total in the third quarter on Friday.

Kaniho said plays such as Nihipali-Botelho’s punt return on “just makes everybody else want to do it too.”

“That’s the good thing about this team, we’re always trying to top each other and it just brings out the best in everybody,” he said.

The constructive competition extends to home for Kaniho. He finished the night with two interceptions and his brother, freshman Kaonohi Kaniho, added another late in the game.

“We like to have competitions,” Kekaula Kaniho said. “You know how it is at home, brotherly love. We’re always kind of giving each other a hard time, but it brings out the best in both of us.”

For those with time for some scrolling, here are the Red Raiders’ defensive and special teams touchdowns over the last two seasons.

2015

Aug. 8 — Campbell

Stokes Botelho 37 interception return

Tema Lindsey 20 interception return

Aug. 28 — McKinley

Kekaula Kaniho 33 interception return

Keala Santiago 46-yard punt return

Sept. 12—Castle

Hirkley Latu interception in end zone

Keala Santiago 45 punt return

Sept. 19— Leilehua

Stokes Botelho 38 interception return

Sept. 25–Waipahu

Keala Santiago 45 interception return

Hirkley Latu 82 interception return

Oct. 17—Kapolei

Kekaula Kaniho 72 interception return


Oct. 23—Farrington

Keala Santiago 87 punt return

Nov. 13—Waianae

Keala Santiago 32 interception return

Nov. 20—Saint Louis

Kekaula Kaniho 17 fumble return

2016

Aug. 12—Leilehua

Kesi Ah-Hoy 82 fumble return

Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 94 kickoff return

Aug. 19—Aiea

Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 25 interception return

Kekaula Kaniho 65 kickoff return

Aug. 26—Waianae

Sioeli Naupoto fumble recovery in end zone

Sept. 2—Campbell

Kesi Ah Hoy 52 interception return

Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 84 kickoff return

Sept. 9—Radford

Miki Ah You 50 interception return

Kesi Ah-Hoy 45 interception return

Stokes Nihipali-Bothelho 31 interception return

Stokes Nihipali-Bothelo 62 yard punt return

Sept. 24—Moanalua

Kekaula Kaniho 30 interception return

Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 98 kickoff return

Sept. 30—Kaiser

Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 84 kickoff return

Oct. 14—Leilehua


Stokes Nihipali-Botelho 64 punt return

Kekaula Kaniho 33 interception return

COMMENTS

  1. ??? October 15, 2016 5:15 am

    They need to add a special teams player of the year to the All State team this year just for this kid!!! He’s a lock to win All State DB & Utility….


  2. 87 October 15, 2016 9:50 am

    The season would mostlikely end like this
    1. Kahuku
    2. Punahou
    3. St.Louis
    4. Kapolei
    5. Waianae
    6. Farrington

    The state tourney brackets should have 1,4,5 on one side and 2,3,6 on the other but knowing the ILH they wont allow Punahou and St.Louis to be in the same bracket. smh


  3. 88 October 15, 2016 10:06 am

    Everyone keeps saying Kahuku will have to go through 2 ILH teams but that shouldn’t be the case if Kahuku gets the #1 seed. Depending on who wins doesn’t the #1 seed play the lowest seeded winner?


  4. 88 October 15, 2016 10:09 am

    Its going to be nearly impossible for the remaining teams to score on Kahuku. The team is peaking at the right time. I mean you can make an argument that all 11 on defense could be 1st team OIA and State. As an opposing OC what do you do?


  5. Manley October 15, 2016 11:12 am

    Many questions on this”new” OPEN championships. Does the NEW OPEN champions have a NEW trophy or does the champ assume the Koa Head? I would hate to see the Koa Head with a 2016 name on it like Iolani or Leileihua afterthey both got skunked last night. Oh and 88, I’m sure the HHSAA and cohorts will arrange it so ILH#2 will get a shot at OIA#1….


  6. 88 October 15, 2016 11:34 am

    @manley- You really think an honest and trustworthy organization like the HHSAA would go against everything they stand for and switch the playoff seeding’s so that the #1 seeded team will have to face the #3 and #2 teams to win the State Title? I don’t know, that would be to obvious. I mean how would they explain that scenario to where it would make sense. I think the HHSAA has to much integrity to take that route. The next thing we going hear is that Kahuku will have to play UH Christmas day in the Aloha Bowl if they want to win States.


  7. Chloropicrin October 15, 2016 11:52 am

    It should be called the D1 consolation tourney..everyone in the state knows that the Open Champ is the real champ.


  8. 87 October 15, 2016 12:01 pm

    in any tournament the reward for being #1seed is that the next highest seed in your bracket is #4. The #2 and #3 seeds are in the opposite bracket and will have to beat eachother in order to meet the #1 seed in the title game.


  9. Insideoutsidein October 15, 2016 1:26 pm

    #1 vs #4 #2 vs #3


  10. Manley October 15, 2016 2:23 pm

    87 and insideoutsidein, open had 6 positions. Number 1 and 2 draw first week byes. #3,4,5,6 play the 1st round. After that who knows who the teams play. Also who makes the Seeds? By win/loss records, pull straws, how the OIA and ILH finishes or Scoring Live or Staradvertiser polls? Is there a reference we can see online?


  11. AOK October 15, 2016 3:18 pm

    @Manley Nope, because HHSAA just pulling stuff out their okoles and making it up as they go along. Whole situation is a damn clusterfuk


  12. Football Fan October 15, 2016 4:23 pm

    87 October 15, 2016 at 9:50 am
    The season would mostlikely end like this
    1. Kahuku
    2. Punahou
    3. St.Louis
    4. Kapolei
    5. Waianae
    6. Farrington

    The state tourney brackets should have 1,4,5 on one side and 2,3,6 on the other but knowing the ILH they won’t allow Punahou and St.Louis to be in the same bracket. smh

    YOU MUST LIVE IN A PRETTY SAD WORLD TO THINK THAT THE ILH HAS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE OIA OR KAHUKU. YOU DO KNOW THAT ALL LEAGUES HAVE INPUT. AND THE COMMITTEE THAT CREATED THE RULES AND HOW THEY SELECT TEAMS AND PLACE THEM HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL LEAGUE. IT’S NOT A COMMITTEE OF 5 ILH GUYS. SO UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HURT KIDS. YOU WOULD THINK THAT AS AN ADULT YOU WOULD TEACH THE KIDS TO WORRY ABOUT THINGS THEY CAN CONTROL AND HAVE RESILIENCE.

    KIND OF HARD WHEN THEIR ROLE MODELS HAVE TO MAKE EXCUSES LIKE THE ILH WON’T ALLOW THIS AND THAT.

    HOW SAD FOR YOU 87.


  13. Football Fan October 15, 2016 4:26 pm

    @88 A LONG TIME AGO THE HHSAA CREATED LANGUAGE THAT PLACES LEAGUE CHAMPIONS AND THEIR #2 TEAM IN OPPOSITE BRACKETS OF TOURNEYS. THIS WAS DESIGNED AND CREATED BY THE LEAGUE DIRECTORS WITH MANY COACHES INPUT. THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PLAY DIFFERENT TEAMS AND NOT PLAY THE SAME TEAM IN THEIR OWN DIVISION FOR THE 3RD OR 4TH OR 5TH TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE OPENING ROUND.

    THE COACHES AND DIRECTORS OF EACH LEAGUE FOUGHT FOR THIS. 87 PROBABLY THINKS SOME MAN FROM THE ILH IS SITTING BEHIND A COMPUTER FIGURING OUT WAYS TO HURT KIDS. IT’S NOT. THIS IS WHAT THE LEAGUES WANTED.


  14. Hana Hou October 15, 2016 4:37 pm

    So…..Iolani goes to Division 1 i.e. Division 2 with 0, I repeat 0 wins. Punahou and Saint Louis goes to the Open Division i.e. Division 1. Kamehameha goes no where because they chose to go for a slot in the Division 1 ops I means Open Division, but came up short. Although their last game is against Iolani. So play for nothing. Oh I shouldn’t say nothing….. for fun. All the while the decision makers try to plot who’s going on which side in each Division to make it “fair” for everyone. Because you can’t put the two ILH teams on the same side. So who’s 2 and who’s 3? So Kahuku I assume is 1. Punahou I assume is 2. So they pull a bye. 3 I assume is Saint Louis. Kapolei 4. Farington 6. Winner of tonight’s game is 5.
    So in order for the decision makers (ILH) to get their way (trying hard) they need to drop Saint Louis to 4 and Kapolei move to 3. Despite if Kapolei/Saint Louis loose or win. That way they and get Punahou in one bracket and Saint Louis in the other. Kahuku and Punahou draw bye. #3 (Saint Louis) plays # 6 Farington. #4 Kapolei plays #5 winner of tonight’s game. Cause the name of the game….somehow put ILH in opposite brackets. Or someone might say… rankings don’t matter? Let’s put teams in whichever and however we want in each bracket. Hmmmm the plot thickens.


  15. 88 October 15, 2016 5:02 pm

    So if Kahuku gets the top seed in the Open tournament they will have to play the #1 and #2 from the ILH which are the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams in the State but if an ILH team gets the top seed they don’t have the same route? That makes no sense


  16. Biggz October 15, 2016 7:30 pm

    Maybe should just be like the kahuku football team and worry about next week’s game not next months!


  17. 87 October 15, 2016 8:44 pm

    Two weeks ago the OIA tried to pull out of the new format, its obvious they are being pressured. The outer island leagues could care less about the Open division because they dont have a team to compete. Im not against the three tier format, im only saying that its only fair that in the open division the teams be placed based on their Top ten ranking rather then an ILH 1&2 vs OIA 1&2 thing. If that was the case then leave the OIAs 3&4 team out of the tournament because they are repetitive competition for the OIA 1&2 teams.


  18. al October 15, 2016 8:47 pm

    Football Fan October 15, 2016 at 4:26 pm
    @88 A LONG TIME AGO THE HHSAA CREATED LANGUAGE THAT PLACES LEAGUE CHAMPIONS AND THEIR #2 TEAM IN OPPOSITE BRACKETS OF TOURNEYS. THIS WAS DESIGNED AND CREATED BY THE LEAGUE DIRECTORS WITH MANY COACHES INPUT. THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PLAY DIFFERENT TEAMS AND NOT PLAY THE SAME TEAM IN THEIR OWN DIVISION FOR THE 3RD OR 4TH OR 5TH TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE OPENING ROUND.

    THE COACHES AND DIRECTORS OF EACH LEAGUE FOUGHT FOR THIS. 87 PROBABLY THINKS SOME MAN FROM THE ILH IS SITTING BEHIND A COMPUTER FIGURING OUT WAYS TO HURT KIDS. IT’S NOT. THIS IS WHAT THE LEAGUES WANTED.”

    I’m gonna leave this right here. btw, Football Fan is absolutely correct. Putting teams from the same league on opposite halves is standard for all sports (or at least not having teams from the same league meeting in the first round in individual sports) is standard practice.


  19. al October 15, 2016 8:53 pm

    “88 October 15, 2016 at 5:02 pm
    So if Kahuku gets the top seed in the Open tournament they will have to play the #1 and #2 from the ILH which are the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams in the State but if an ILH team gets the top seed they don’t have the same route? That makes no sense”

    The mistake you’re making here is that you’re assuming that state rankings from the star advertiser actually means anything. It doesn’t. State rankings from HPW/SA mean absolutely nothing and has nothing to do with the HHSAA. those rankings really only came into existence in the mid 2000s and none of the leagues or the HHSAA really cares about them. They don’t determine seeding. They don’t determine scheduling. They don’t determine championships. The brackets are what they are and are set independently of HPW/SA rankings. They weren’t made specifically to screw over Kahuku.

    Yes, Kahuku has a very good football program that is one of the best in the state. However, contrary to what you guys think, the entire planet isn’t out to get you guys.

    Get over yourselves.


  20. al October 15, 2016 9:04 pm

    87 October 15, 2016 at 8:44 pm
    Two weeks ago the OIA tried to pull out of the new format, its obvious they are being pressured.”

    There are 5 league reps in the committee, one from each league. OIA abstained. All other league reps voted yes. There were zero “no” votes. This is why there is a three tiered format.

    ” The outer island leagues could care less about the Open division because they dont have a team to compete.”

    You don’t know that the outer island leagues don’t care. The only thing we know for sure is there was a vote, and everyone approved except for OIA who abstained.

    ” Im not against the three tier format, im only saying that its only fair that in the open division the teams be placed based on their Top ten ranking rather then an ILH 1&2 vs OIA 1&2 thing. If that was the case then leave the OIAs 3&4 team out of the tournament because they are repetitive competition for the OIA 1&2 teams.”

    Maybe. But it’s not, because a newspaper poll doesn’t mean anything. It’s strictly for the fans. It didn’t even exist until maybe the mid 2000s. ILH 1&2 vs OIA 1&2 vs KIIF 1 etc etc, is ALWAYS how HHSAA tournaments are run for pretty much ALL sports. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s just how it is.


  21. 88 October 15, 2016 9:51 pm

    If rankings don’t matter then how do they decide who is the #1 seed in the state Tournament? Is Kahuku going to be the #1 seed because they are #1 in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL or is the ILH Champion going to be the #1 seed because they are the #2 and #3 teams in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL and would have played each other 3 times(strength of schedule due to RANK IN ADVERTISER POLL) to decide their Champion? Or is the OIA Champion the automatic #1 seed?


  22. al October 15, 2016 9:58 pm

    “88 October 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm
    If rankings don’t matter then how do they decide who is the #1 seed in the state Tournament? Is Kahuku going to be the #1 seed because they are #1 in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL or is the ILH Champion going to be the #1 seed because they are the #2 and #3 teams in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL and would have played each other 3 times(strength of schedule due to RANK IN ADVERTISER POLL) to decide their Champion? Or is the OIA Champion the automatic #1 seed?”

    There is a seeding meeting before the brackets are created. It’s pretty much like this for all HHSAA sports. 1 rep from each league votes on the seeding and then the brackets are filled out. They look at overall record, who the teams played, head to head, and so on. After discussing it, they vote.

    Kahuku would have to be the top seed because they’re undefeated in Hawaii. I’d be surprised if they weren’t.


  23. 88 October 15, 2016 10:10 pm

    If you go by who they played Kahuku wouldn’t and shouldn’t be awarded the #1 seed. Yes they beat everyone they played easily however they have never played the #2 and #3 ranked teams in the State this season. The only two teams that have done that are Punahou and St. Louis and they have been ranked either #2 or #3 in the POLLS all year. I mean Iolani on paper had a tougher schedule than Kahuku according to the POLLS but we all know for a fact that Kahuku would smash every team Iolani has played this year.


  24. al October 15, 2016 10:15 pm

    Also, Kahuku would probably get the top seed because

    1) perfect record in hawaii
    2) defending champs, so you give the champs their due.

    the seeding should be pretty cut and dry, tbh. Kahuku is clear #1. ILH champ which will be settled next week will be the clear #2. The only time this would get murky is say if Punahou was the ILH champ and Kahuku beat them in the regular season but lost to Saint Louis, or something very wacky like that. But that probably wouldn’t happen unless there was an OIA/ILH merger.


  25. Football Fan October 15, 2016 10:21 pm

    88 October 15, 2016 at 5:02 pm
    So if Kahuku gets the top seed in the Open tournament they will have to play the #1 and #2 from the ILH which are the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams in the State but if an ILH team gets the top seed they don’t have the same route? That makes no sense

    ITS BEEN LIKE THIS IN ALMOST EVERY HHSAA SPORT (VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, SOCCER, ETC.)

    FIRST OF ALL SEEDINGS HARDLY MEANS ANYTHING WHEN THERE IS NO HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS OUTSIDE OF THE LEAGUES TO SEE WHO REALLY IS THE BEST. ALL OF THE TOP SEEDS ARE SUBJECTIVE SINCE THERE IS NO COMMON CRITERIA AND VARIABLES THAT CAN BE USED ACROSS THE BOARD.

    AND IF KAHUKU IS SO GREAT LIKE MANY OF YOU WRITE, IT SHOULDN’T MATTER WHO THEY PLAY. BEATING PUNAHOU AND STL IS BACK TO BACK GAMES IS A CAKEWALK, SO WHY ALL THE CRYING FOR?

    I AM CONFUSED. MANY OF YOU SAY HOW GREAT YOUR BOYS ARE. BUT THEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT MATCHUPS?

    WHEN YOU HAVE AT LARGE TEAMS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT RIGHT.

    THE HHSAA HAVE BEEN PUTTING THE #2 TEAM FROM A LEAGUE OPPOSITE OF ITS LEAGUE CHAMPIONS FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES.

    AND ONLY NOW YOU GUYS HAVE A PROBLEM? DID YOU MISS THE BOAT? OR DID YOU NOT NOTICE THIS HAS BEEN THE HHSAA’S LANGUAGE USED TO PLACE TEAMS IN THEIR TOURNAMENTS FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

    THE RULES THE HHSAA USE TO PLACE TEAMS HAVE BEEN PUBLIC RECORD FOR 20 IF NOT MORE YEARS.

    SO GIVEN THAT THESE ARE THE RULES AND HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR DECADES, WHY ARE YOU GUYS COMPLAINING WITH LESS THAN 25% OF THE SEASON LEFT?

    WHY DON’T YOU COMPLAIN BEFORE THE SEASON? AND ALSO, WHY DO YOU GUYS COMPLAIN SO MUCH? ARE YOU GUYS WAHINES? WHINE WHINE WHINE. BITCH BITCH BITCH. I HOPE YOU ARE WAHINES CUZ GUYS DON’T CRY AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS DO.

    DAMN I THOUGHT THIS WAS ONE BLOG, NOT ONE WAHINE CRY-A-THON.


  26. al October 15, 2016 10:21 pm

    @88 “The only two teams that have done that are Punahou and St. Louis and they have been ranked either #2 or #3 in the POLLS all year. I mean Iolani on paper had a tougher schedule than Kahuku according to the POLLS but we all know for a fact that Kahuku would smash every team Iolani has played this year.”

    this would be relevant if the POLLS mattered. But they don’t. The seeding committee aren’t idiots. They know how good teams are relative to each other and will argue about it amongst themselves, and nobody is going to say that iolani is better than kahuku or the ILH runner up deserves the top seed over Kahuku. That’s your bizarre “everyone is against kahuku” mentality talking.

    If anything, the D1 tournament will be more trickier to seed because there will probably be four teams to seed. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say in a 6 team tournament for open, there will only be 2 seeds, and that’ll be OIA champ and ILH champ. OIA champ (unless kahuku gets upset) will obviously be #1 overall.

    And no, I think it’s up in the air whether Kahuku would “smash” punahou and saint louis. Those are very good teams, especially punahou. They would be great games to watch. It wouldn’t be a cake walk for either team. It’ll be well played.


  27. Football Fan October 15, 2016 10:23 pm

    87 October 15, 2016 at 8:44 pm
    Two weeks ago the OIA tried to pull out of the new format, its obvious they are being pressured. The outer island leagues could care less about the Open division because they dont have a team to compete. Im not against the three tier format, im only saying that its only fair that in the open division the teams be placed based on their Top ten ranking rather then an ILH 1&2 vs OIA 1&2 thing. If that was the case then leave the OIAs 3&4 team out of the tournament because they are repetitive competition for the OIA 1&2 teams.

    ANY PROOF OF THIS ACCUSATION 87? ANYONE CAN SAY “THE OIA TRIED TO PULL OUT.” WHAT SHOULD MAKE ANY OF US BELIEVE YOU?

    AFTER COMING UP WITH YOUR ILH CONSPIRACY THEORY, YOU REALLY DON’T HAVE MUCH CREDIBILITY ON HERE.


  28. Football Fan October 15, 2016 10:37 pm

    88 October 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm
    If rankings don’t matter then how do they decide who is the #1 seed in the state Tournament? Is Kahuku going to be the #1 seed because they are #1 in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL or is the ILH Champion going to be the #1 seed because they are the #2 and #3 teams in the State according to the ADVERTISER POLL and would have played each other 3 times(strength of schedule due to RANK IN ADVERTISER POLL) to decide their Champion? Or is the OIA Champion the automatic #1 seed?

    88 I HAVE SAT IN ON THESE SELECTION COMMITTEES BEFORE UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF ALEX KANE FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENCE FACTORS FOR AN 12 YEAR PERIOD. LIKE AL SAID, WE HAVE A SELECTION COMMITTEE. THERE ARE MANY THINGS DISCUSSED SUCH AS:
    -OVERALL RECORD
    -LEAGUE RECORD
    -LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
    -STRENGTH OF LEAGUE
    -STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE
    -HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS

    AT NO POINT DOES THE COMMITTEE USE A POLL THAT IS OFTEN VOTED ON BY JOURNALIST TO SEED TEAMS IN A HHSAA TOURNAMENT. THAT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE.

    IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, THE CHAMPION OF EACH LEAGUE GETS SEEDED 1-4. FROM THAT POINT WE MAKE SURE THE #2 AND OFTEN #3 TEAMS FROM A LEAGUE IS IN THE OPPOSITE BRACKET OF ITS LEAGUE CHAMPION.

    IN THE PAST, IF THERE WERE 4 CHAMPIONS FOR FOOTBALL BUT ONLY 2 TEAMS WERE GIVEN SEEDS (BYES), THE REMAINING 2 CHAMPIONS WOULD GET THE LOWEST AT LARGE SEED TO PLAY INTHE OPENING ROUND.

    AT NO POINT IS THE COMMITTEE TRYING TO SCREW ONE LEAGUE OR ONE TEAM. THE LANGUAGE AND GUIDELINES USED TO SEED AND PLACE THE TEAMS ARE CLEARLY OUTLINED. WE FOLLOW THEM PRETTY CONSISTENTLY EACH YEAR.

    YOU CAN EASILY CALL THE HHSAA OFFICE TO GET A COPY OF THE CRITERIA USED TO SEED AND PLACE AT LARGE TEAMS.

    I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IT’S EASIER TO CALL THE OFFICE AND FIND OUT INSTEAD OF SLINGING SUCH ASININE AND RUDE COMMENTS AT THE HHSAA.

    I MEAN DO YOU GIVE BACK TO THE KIDS AND TRY YOUR BEST TO CREATE, THEN EXECUTE A STATE TOURNAMENT FOR THE KIDS? AND JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

    BUT IT’S ALWAYS EASY TO SIT BEHIND A COMPUTER AND NITPICK AND TELL US HOW TO DO OUR JOBS. BUT I DONT SEE YOU ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVE PUTTING IN THE WORK TO DESIGN THE TOURNEY.

    I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO HELP PLAN AND PUT ON THESE TOURNEYS WHO DO IT FOR PEANUTS.

    BUT INSTEAD OF SAYING THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS FOR OUR KIDS, YOU SIT BEHIND A COMPUTER AND COMPLAIN.

    KIND OF SOUNDS A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL TO ME FOR SOMEONE WHO ISN’T DOING ANY WORK TO MAKE IT BETTER BUT YOU CAN CRITICIZE IT. AND WHAT’S WORSE YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO CRITICIZE SOME GOOD PEOPLE BEHIND YOUR REAL NAME.


  29. al October 15, 2016 10:41 pm

    @Football Fan, I used to coach OIA as an assistant coach before i left DOE. What you saying is absolutely true. Preach, brother. Preach.


  30. Football Fan October 15, 2016 10:52 pm

    @AL, WHAT BUGS ME IS SO MANY PEOPLE JUST INSULT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING THEIR BEST. THESE PEOPLE SPEND MANY LONG AND LATE EVENINGS AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THEY OFTEN MISS THEIR OWN CHILDREN PLAYING IN SPORTS OR PERFORMING IN A CONCERT. AND THEY DO IT TO GIVE BACK TO KIDS.

    ARE WE PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT TO COME ON HERE AND ACCUSE PEOPLE FOR BLATANTLY TRYING TO HARM KIDS OR CHEAT KIDS IN INSULTING. AND WHAT MAKES IT WORSE IS MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND NAMES INSULTING OTHERS.

    YET I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THEY ARE DOING NO WORK TO HELP MAKE THESE TOURNAMENTS BETTER FOR THE KIDS.

    WE ARE DOING IT FOR THE KIDS. WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST. AND NO ONE IS TRYING TO CHEAT AND KID OR ANY TEAM.

    I AGREE WITH YOU AL, MANY OF THESE KAHUKU SUPPORTERS NEED TO GET OVER THEMSELVES.

    AND I AM AMAZED THE KAHUKU TEAM AND THEIR BOYS SUCCEED IN SPITE OF MANY OF THEIR SO CALLED ROLE MODELS.


  31. 88 October 15, 2016 11:28 pm

    “THE HHSAA HAVE BEEN PUTTING THE #2 TEAM FROM A LEAGUE OPPOSITE OF ITS LEAGUE CHAMPIONS FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES” Yes this is true because for the past 2 decades the ONLY #2 from the same league to play in the State Tourney was the OIA RUNNER UP. It would make no sense to watch a OIA CHAMPIONSHIP GAME PART 2. Al said that a room of non idiots got together to discuss the seeding. You claim to have been part of said meeting. Obviously Al is a liar.


  32. Kahuku Alumni October 15, 2016 11:53 pm

    Yea it dont matter because most of our kids wont go to college cause they cant qualify academically. As good as our DB’s are probably only one will get a chance to play DB in college while the rest will be like us and continue to cheer for KAHUKU PRIDE every year. That is all. Lets continue to cheer for our RED RAIDER PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  33. OHHREALLY October 16, 2016 12:17 am

    Can all you damn fools keep your drama out of every damn post relating to kahuku!!! Seriously all of you need to grow up!! Im calling out both sides.. The kids work to hard to see all this damn negativity blasted on every story relating to them!!! $&@$


  34. 87 October 16, 2016 12:34 am

    The only idiots causing drama are the ones quoting other posters comments, geez come up with your own thoughts you damn internet police.


  35. OHHREALLY October 16, 2016 12:50 am

    Enough already!!! Let the kids do the talking!!!


  36. Good Story October 16, 2016 1:26 am

    I think some of you need to get over yourselves. This is where we come to speak our minds freely. HPW the only ones qualified to monitor or whatever’s. If you don’t like it…go somewhere else or just don’t scroll down…but if you like preach, do it at church.


  37. Daren Kau October 16, 2016 5:49 am

    It’s always the same. I rarely comment. But I have read the posts and it’s still the same. 87 and 88 come to the board and accuse everyone. They think everyone is after Kahuku. They probably blame the HHSAA for the rail, unemployment, obesity with our kids, low test scores, high cost of living, and who else knows.

    It’s probably the HHSAA’s fault for not properly checking the railings at Ala Moana. HHSAA should do cancer research. They should also stop 3rd world hunger.

    It’s always the HHSAA’s or ILH’s fault.

    They are not content to let their boys play. They do this to hedge their bets since they are not confident. It’s quite simple since they are both very simple people. By hedging their bets by prefacing it with the ILH or HHSAA are unfairly making rules to hurt Kahuku, they have an excuse if Kahuku doesn’t win.

    It’s quite transparent but due to their little mind they hope no one figures it out when in actuality a 3 year old can see it.

    But in all honestly the rest of us know Kahuku Boys are a solid team with a great chance to win.

    But 87 and 88 need to do it this way. They do it all the time and the community are growing quite tired and weary of them.


  38. Pick Six October 16, 2016 6:55 am

    Al, Football Fan, Edumacation First, Jeezy etc. etc. are all the same person. Dude is a schizophrenic,lol. Can you atleast turn off the caps lock, there’s no need for screaming. Lol.


  39. al October 16, 2016 7:59 am

    “88 October 15, 2016 at 11:28 pm
    “THE HHSAA HAVE BEEN PUTTING THE #2 TEAM FROM A LEAGUE OPPOSITE OF ITS LEAGUE CHAMPIONS FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES” Yes this is true because for the past 2 decades the ONLY #2 from the same league to play in the State Tourney was the OIA RUNNER UP. It would make no sense to watch a OIA CHAMPIONSHIP GAME PART 2. Al said that a room of non idiots got together to discuss the seeding. You claim to have been part of said meeting. Obviously Al is a liar.”

    88, league runner ups being placed in a different bracket opposite of the league champ has been standard practice for basically ALL sports. You may not know this, but there are more sports than just football, and the state tournaments are all done the same way. The only exception to this are individual sports like tennis, where they will seed 8 teams/players, and then the rest of the bracket is filled at random, unless two players from the same school meet in the first round, then they will move them.

    If you’re ACTUALLY interested in learning how state tournaments are run, or even OIA tournaments, becuase they’re run in basically the EXACT same way (division champs in opposite halves of the bracket from the #2 team in the division) then go on the HHSAA website, call them, or volunteer for your local high school team and talk to the coaches and learn how the process works. Don’t just make things up and slam people who work hard for the kids because you have an inferiority complex with kahuku.


  40. al October 16, 2016 8:02 am

    @darren kau Yeah, it’s sad, really. And look at their responses once Football Fan educated them on HHSAA processes and how they work. 87/88 or whoever retreat into their own “everyone is against us” bubble because they can’t stand the fact that they’re wrong. They can’t man up and admit that maybe they don’t know anything about how HHSAA actually works and move forward with a more educated view. They just reject and then insult Football Fan, who has been serving the kids and community for 12+ years, along with all the ADs, coaches, and teachers that serve and make up the HHSAA.

    But then again, like Football Fan said, it’s easy to be internet tough guys and criticize without knowledge behind a computer screen. If they actually volunteered to work with Kahuku’s team (whether that’s coaching, booster, organizing potluck for the kids, equipment manager, whatever) then they learn about how everything works and ask the coaches and HHSAA committee itself how it works.

    But nope. Look at their responses. It’s like talking to children.


  41. What u smok'n October 16, 2016 9:17 am

    88 is confused. HPW/SA and any other rankings is for your entertainment only. It is quite simple the teams Will seed themselves with head to head competition.

    If my scenario plays out where Kahuku beats Waianae and Kapolei beats Farrington then Kahuku wins the OIA Championship. Then Waianae beats Farrington in the consolation game and then Punahou beats St. Louis for the ILH championship that gives you your OIA 1,2,3,and 4 and your ILH 1 and 2. With this Kahuku would be the obvious #1 seed and mind you the #1 seed really doesn’t matter other than being the home team in the tournament and having the #4 OIA in your bracket rather than the #3.

    Kahuku and Punahou #1 and#2 seeds Will have first round byes. St.Louis and Farrington plays in the quarters in Kahuku’s bracket and Kapolei and Waianae in Punahou’s bracket. I see St.Louis beating Farrington and Kapolei beating Waianae. Kahuku beats St.Louis and Punahou beats Kapolei in the semi. Kahuku beats Punahou to become back to back State D1 champions, yes D1 is what it really is. Now that’s just my scenario.


  42. OHHREALLY October 16, 2016 10:26 am

    Good story- of course people got something say but does is make them feel good to demoralize the youth that play the game?? Unfortunately this open forum brings out the worst of some really sick people and the kids are exposed to it. If you or anyone else have the need to an open discussion and be civil about it then join me at each game. I’d be happy to talk about high school football in general. I have family playing all over the islands not just kahuku and I share the same pride and respect for all teams.


  43. 99boiz October 16, 2016 1:14 pm

    If safety was a real concern then we would eliminate all these repetitive tournament games and just do it prep bowl style…OIA #1 vs ILH #1.


  44. Paper Crane October 17, 2016 7:12 pm

    Everything seems to be planned and written out and so that’s a positive step yet while all this is going on like behind the scene recruiting for next season athletics will be overflowing and like very soon too whereas some announced and some unannounced or just walking on as early as spring training but by August 2017 more great potential will be noticeable and a welcome site by most coaches and like a school of tuna that’s coming with “Talofa” just wait and see not only Hawaii but the west coast including Utah?.


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