King of the road: Kahuku is No. 1 for sixth week in a row

The only team in the OIA open division is Kahuku, the rest should be Division 1. And it looks like Kahuku will face Mililani in the opening round of the State Tournament on top of that, , in 2019, #1 played #3 and #2 played #4, so should be the same again this year. Let’s see if they will change it back to #1 plays #4, and #2 plays #3.

@eddie this years St. Louis team is different.. They’re trying to avoid playing Mililani at all cost..😂

@88 You don’t really believe the things you’re saying on the these message boards do you? If so, you should really stop driving around alone in your car with your mask on all day. This is clearly depriving your brain of much needed oxygen to keep those few brain cells you have left alive. “Mililani will mop the floor with the crusaders” and “They’re trying to avoid playing Mililani at all cost” smh! Scrimmages, WTF, LOL! I can’t wait until the 18th. Looking forward to your excuses.

C’mon Mililani. Let’s play a clean game this time. Those foolish plays destroyed any chance you had in your first meeting with Kahuku.

@88 Yes, I’ve been to every Saint Louis scrimmage the last few years and no they don’t treat scrimmages like real games. QB1 played only 25% of snaps in the spring scrimmages and 33% snaps in the summer scrimmage. Other position groups had similar percentage of snap breakdowns. Those are the facts. Idk what real game you’d do that in, but just goes to show you don’t know anything about football. And nobody got dominated but, then again, I wouldn’t expect STL 2’s and 3’s to dominate Mililani’s 1’s. You should really get your intel from somebody else or get better glasses. BTW there is no way the corrupt OIA would allow Kahuku and Mililani to play in the semis and let STL walk through to the finals. Just another example of you not knowing the obvious. That’s the whole reason STL played #3 Mililani in 2019 and not #4 Campbell. Any other state has 1 play 4 and 2 play 3. Then again, any other state would have Kam in there over an awful 3rd place OIA team.

Scrimmages don’t count, that’s how you find players who will start, everyone plays, standings is only on REAL games, Mililani going no where again this year, 2019, #1 Saint Louis Played #3 Mililani, so this year will be the same which would be #1 Kahuku vs. #3 Mililani and #2 Saint Louis playing #4 Waianae/Campbell winner. in 2019 Saint Louis was #1 seed but tournament committee did not want Saint Louis to play #4 seed, that is why 2019 was different from other years, so let’s see now what will they do, Crusaders are well rested and ready to Roll.

Daaaaamn your dumb…

LOL.

Hooooo. Not the ” you dumb” action.

What a great rebuttal.

Mililani don’t even have to win to burst this ILH bubble. The hype right now from that side is that the OIA sucks and any team from the ILH would mop the floor with us. So if Mililani even keeps it interesting, and I am one to believe they are more than capable of that, let’s see how these ILH elitists explain that one.

Telling you guys either Kahuku or Mililani can come up with the dub against Saint Louis. Would love to see an all OIA state championship played! That would be something!

Just glad to see Kahuku back where they belong. It was tough to see them lose the way they did in 2019 to Saint Louis. Quitting in a game that was ugly during the regular season 0-28 by halftime. Then I really thought the ship was gonna be competitive like all the previous state championships have been. But another spanking 6-45. That’s a combined 6-73 in 6 quarters. Red Raiders gotta win this year by 35 plus to earn back that respect! Saints are definitely down this year.

Does anyone have any ideas for why Kahuku made one OIA championship game appearance in the years 1973 to 1988, and then many more than that in the years since. And after making their first prep bowl appearance in 1989, and appearing four more times in that game, they never won. What happened that Kahuku has been much more successful since the years following 1988, and especially from 2000 to the present? Did it have anything to do with BYU-Hawaii and the Polynesian Cultural Center attracting more families or athletes and keeping them in the Koolauloa district?

I personally would love to see another ILH team enter the states and one less OIA…but alas, I’m just a keyboard warrior.

some people just can’t handle kahuku ever being successful. homegrown talent. homegrown kids. everyone playing for their community. rooted not recruited. and all the kahuku haters and ILH moneybags people buying championships praying for our downfall and attacking red raider faithful here. so sad. we’ll see what you have to say when big red wins states this year over an overrated lulu squad.

@ Pakelika – I think it’s a combination of things, but it’s definitely hard work, determination, and talent.

As a kid growing up on the North Shore in the 90’s, we always witnessed St. Louis winning the prep bowl every year and I know for myself, and many others, it was tiring to see that. A couple years we lost by a few points, and in ’96 we got robbed, straight up. Going to football games and watching our older brothers/cousins come out on the losing end just wasn’t a nice feeling.

So for our generation, growing up, we knew we had the talent to compete with St. Louis because of where we came from and the last name we represented, but we also wanted to be at the top. Plain and simple. It’s a mentality that we adopted and that we got accustomed to after winning it all for the first time.

In ’99 after we won our first prep bowl, it brought a sense of pride to the community, like we finally got to the top of the mountain, and it’s been a trickling effect ever since.

Add in the pep rallies, cheer fest, and the festivities that take place during homecoming week, and it’s a special thing for us.

Our children, along with our entire community, love Kahuku anything, especially football. It’s a way of life. There are those who move in to the community and we welcome them with open arms (just don’t get kurazy lol) and there are those who leave for whatever reason, but still call the North Shore home.

It’s a special thing to us to be a Red Raider 4 Life. One I know I am very proud of.

KHS ‘04 Mahalo for your reply! So you are too young to know from a first hand perspective what is or are the reason or reasons for the dramatic difference in the frequency of championship contention and success of the Kahuku football program between the era from 1973 to 1988, and the years since then, especially from 2000 to the present; if there is a reason, or reasons. I suspect that there may be a reason, just by considering the frequency of OIA championships from 1989 to the present. Was there a significant increase in the quantity of talented players, and/or the quality? Was there a change in the attitude of the players in the program? The OIA was founded in 1940. In the first five decades of it’s existence, Kahuku was no more than an occasional champion, and a contender in a few other years. Waipahu, Waialua, Kailua, and Waianae were leading contenders and the prevailing teams of those decades. Something more, I suspect, than simply effort and talent, was involved. Maybe the demographics of those other areas changed, along with that of the Koolauloa district, and brought about the present inequity in the balance of power among OIA football programs. If one were to read between the lines of your reply, it might be that the players of previous years before 1989 were not as talented in terms of quantity-at least-if not quality, or didn’t work as much or as hard, or did not care as much as players of more recent years. This is relative, comparing different eras, not necessarily saying that players of pre1989 at Kahuku didn’t care or didn’t work hard or were not talented. This might be a ripe subject for doing research and a graduate level sociological dissertation-Kahuku High School Football, Pre & Post 1989: What Accounts For The Dramatic Difference In The Program’s Success? Also, you mentioned being robbed in 1996; Kahuku didn’t play in the Prep Bowl in 1996, Waianae did. If you meant 1995, that is relative to your perspective, there was also a call that went against SL, or there was no call when there should have been. It would be very difficult-if not impossible-to attribute any teams loss in the Prep Bowl, or in the HHSAA tournament championship game to being “robbed” due to the action or inaction of the game officials. Your other incorrect statement, that Kahuku won the Prep Bowl in 1999, was later corrected by you, but you didn’t say that Kahuku never did win a Prep Bowl, and that by the time Kahuku did win its match against the ILH champions in 2000, it was no longer the Prep Bowl, it was the HHSAA tournament final round.

KHS ‘04 Being “tired” of another team winning annually in a championship like setting (Prep Bowl) is not a reason that explains Kahuku’s success in HHSAA title games from 2000 and forward, neither is realizing that a team has the talent to compete and win “and that’s what we did.” There is nothing in those two statements that clearly explains the program’s success from 2000 on, in terms of a direct connection between what you stated and winning titles. You replied, but have no answer that is convincing and compelling, to the question what accounts for the success of the Kahuku football program after 1989-especially from 2000 to the present, in comparison to pre 1989. Nothing you cited in an effort to disqualify the assertion that Kahuku was no more than an occasional champion before 1989, disqualifies that assertion from being correct. A single occurrence of consecutive championships in one decade and a total of three championships in that decade, followed by four titles in twenty-three seasons certainly qualifies as an occasional champion; it strains the bounds of credibility-to put it mildly- to deny that, and assert otherwise, and conclude that Kahuku was anything more than an occasional champion. You are fixated on the fact that Kahuku was tied for the number of titles won up to 1972, as if being tied for the number of titles won disqualifies the assertion that Kahuku was no more than an occasional champion from being correct, it does not; the key and determining factor in determining whether the assertion is correct or not is the frequency of titles with in a period of time, not being in a tie for number of titles won after thirty-three seasons, only 7 championships in 33 seasons certainly qualifies as being only an occasional champion.

@ Pakelika – “A single occurrence of consecutive championships in one decade and a total of three championships in that decade, followed by four titles in twenty-three seasons certainly qualifies as an occasional champion; it strains the bounds of credibility-to put it mildly- to deny that, and assert otherwise, and conclude that Kahuku was anything more than an occasional champion.”

“Waipahu, Waialua, Kailua, and Waianae were leading contenders and the prevailing teams of those decades.”

So your initial response is incorrect to begin with because Kahuku and Waipahu were both, as you put it, “leading contenders and prevailing teams” in the 40’s. That right there alone, discredits your claim of your second post that you quoted, in this response to you. Which clearly tells me and signifies your disdain or dislike of Kahuku football because you fail to realize that and or give credit to where it is due.

Another thing that tells me of your antipathy for Kahuku football is the fact that you list Kailua as one of the “leading contenders and prevailing teams” of the first 5 decades of OIA football. However, they were only dominant from ’63-’65. No titles in the ’40’s or ’50’s, or ’70’s, ’80’s, and ’90’s. Kahuku won a title in each decade, and Kailua is one of the “leading contenders and prevailing teams” for those decades?

That logic is very telling of your stance on things. It’s okay though, keep enjoying the history in the making that Kahuku football provides for you, including number 28, of OIA Championships.

KHS ‘04 No, it is absolutely not incorrect to assert that that Kahuku, pre 1989, was nothing more than an occasional champion, not a perennial one. Waialua, Waipahu, Kailua, Waianae were leading contenders, even in seasons when they were not league champions. Your opinion that anything asserted about Kahuku pre 1989 is incorrect is opinion in personem. You consider that a mere 7 league championships in 33 seasons qualifies Kahuku as being more than an occasional champion. That is an average of a championship for every 4-5 seasons, easily disqualifying your attempt to portray Kahuku as anything more than an occasional champion. I understand that Kahuku does not enjoy an enviable academic reputation, so your attempt to falsely portray its football program as something which it demonstrably is not is an understandable effort, vain and self illusory though it is. Kailua was a multiple time league finalist in the 70’s and a multi season playoff participant in the 80’s, they were league runner up and represented their league in the first runner up game of the Prep Bowl in 1987 and played in that game again in 1991. They were legitimately perennial contenders and among the leading teams in their league.

The only thing that the Kahuku Football Team provides for folks like me is to play the same role, in HHSAA tournament games, that the Washington Generals played for the Harlem Globetrotters. They provide and serve no other purpose; what you stated in your conclusionary sentence is strictly of value, if there is any, to folks like you.