Kahuku vs. Waianae: The Crunch Bowl?

Waianae's Peter Sarono tried to get away from a Kahuku defensive player in a game played on Sept. 22, 2000. This was the last time Waianae beat Kahuku. Star-Bulletin photo by Craig T. Koima.
Waianae’s Peter Sarono tried to get away from a Kahuku defensive player in a game played on Sept. 22, 2000. This was the last time Waianae beat Kahuku. Star-Bulletin photo by Craig T. Koima.

At one point in history, Kahuku and Waianae had combined to win 11 consecutive OIA titles.

The Red Raiders have won more OIA championships than anyone else — 24 to be exact. Next on the list? Waianae with 18.

Some will say it’s hard to call it a rivalry when Kahuku has won 15 consecutive meetings, but the atmosphere at Carleton Weimer Field on Friday night when the fourth-ranked Seariders face the top-ranked Red Raiders will definitely show otherwise.


Kahuku versus Waianae is a rivalry worthy of a name, especially now that the teams have played at least once every season since 2009.

But as it turns out, it’s a rivalry that might already have one.

Back in 1975, the Seariders slugged their way to a 13-6 win over the Red Raiders. The two teams had played three times in two years alternating victories. Prior to that, the last regular-season meeting took place in 1969 when Kahuku hosted Waianae and played to a scoreless tie.

Before losing by a touchdown in ’75, then-Kahuku coach Chuck Meade dubbed the game the “Crunch Bowl” for all the vicious hits that took place.

Waianae coach Larry Ginoza responded, saying. “He can talk like that because he’s got the people to crunch people. If we had people like that we could say the same thing.”

Surely, Ginoza was simply being humble to his former assistant, because his Seariders that season were the real deal. They went on to win the OIA championship and were 12-0 before losing in the Prep Bowl to Kamehameha. Despite the 20-14 loss to the Warriors, Waianae finished the year allowing just 5.4 points per game (4.2 ppg excluding the Prep Bowl).

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That 0-0 tie in ’69 is the closest Waianae has come to winning a game at Kahuku in 50 years, but the Seariders have had opportunities since. Waianae is 0-6 on the North Shore since that game with all six contests happening between 2003 and 2013. Kahuku has averaged 28.3 points in those six wins while holding the Seariders to 10.2 points per game.

You’d think Waianae would have gotten its shot to return the favor at Raymond Torii Field on the West side, but as it turns out, the two teams have not played in Waianae since the night Meade dubbed the rivalry the “Crunch Bowl.”

The next 24 meetings all took place at Aloha Stadium until Kahuku hosted Waianae and won 41-8 in 2003. The two teams played four more times at Aloha Stadium before Kahuku hosted five consecutive meetings. Friday will mark the seventh time since 2003 Kahuku hosts Waianae, yet the Red Raiders haven’t made it to Waianae’s field in more than 40 years.

The rivalry has become one-sided since the beginning of the state championship era in 1999. Kahuku has won eight of the 17 Division I state championships while Waianae, which hasn’t won an OIA title since 1997, has only advanced to a state final once — and that was only after Kahuku had to forfeit its season. The series history between the two schools shows that as well. Kahuku has won 15 consecutive meetings since Waianae’s last victory — a 12-7 final on Sept. 22, 2000. Overall, the Red Raiders lead the series 26-13-1 in the Prep Bowl and state championship eras, but before that game on Sept. 22, 2000, it was Waianae which held a 13-11-1 advantage.

Jaylen Mitchell avoided the tackle of Kahuku defender Kawehena Johnson in a game at Carlton Weimer Field in 2010. Photo by FL Morris/Star-Advertiser.
Jaylen Mitchell avoided the tackle of Kahuku defender Kawehena Johnson in a game at Carlton Weimer Field in 2010. Photo by FL Morris/Star-Advertiser.

Kahuku won both games last year without allowing a point, but a 13-0 win in the state semifinals was probably the toughest game the undefeated Red Raiders had all year.

The recent trends all favor Kahuku, but the Seariders have a lot going in their favor. Waianae has already knocked off two ranked teams this season with both wins coming on the road. The Seariders have an experienced quarterback in two-year starter Jaren Ulu. Kahuku will start a freshman in Sol-Jay Maiava at quarterback. The Seariders have already been tested this season. Kahuku (49-15 vs. Leilehua, 50-7 vs. Aiea) hasn’t.

Rarely do we get a regular-season game in late August with as much buildup and hype as this. Waianae is telling all of its fans making the trip to wear blue, while the home crowd will undoubtedly be a mass of red and white.


A bowl game atmosphere in late-August? Sure, we’ll take it. We’ve even got a name for it that is still pretty fitting of these two schools some 41 years later.

The Crunch Bowl is just two days away.

COMMENTS

  1. Alpha August 24, 2016 6:22 pm

    Oh here we go…. throwing some shade to us OIA homers…. thx..


  2. Alpha August 24, 2016 6:24 pm

    Oh and of course a Kahuku player is being stiffed by a plyr wearing red and blue….. oh the subliminal failure….


  3. TGOD August 24, 2016 6:28 pm

    40 years is a long time. Kahuku is solid, they can win in Waianae. Waianae would play harder at home with their crowd. Not sure why they’re never scheduled to play down on the West side. They should alternate yearly on game sites.


  4. Matuu Pulotu August 24, 2016 6:59 pm

    Play on Saturday so not competing with the traffic and it would be doable. I still think it should be by geography but with new playoffs we’ll see who goes where.


  5. Jeezy33 August 24, 2016 7:10 pm

    The crunch bowl? Clever. The Welfare Bowl? Even better. Battle of the Lowest GPAs?

    The best!


  6. iSpeakReality August 24, 2016 7:11 pm

    Someone is not one dimensional anymore. Hope the other team is ready.

    Good Luck to both teams.. This is round 1 of the OIA Championship. Battle in the trenches!


  7. Alpha August 24, 2016 7:18 pm

    @jezzy33….. the welfare Bowl looking for a sponser, you mind asking haterade to help out? Or do we go straight to you?


  8. Homegrown August 24, 2016 7:21 pm

    Gonna be a tough battle for both teams. Waianae looks to be much more competitive than previous meetings.

    Coach Tata seems to have Waianae’s offense figure out pretty good though. If they fail to move the ball on the ground and fall back to their “spread” package I like Kahuku’s chances.

    If it pours that night. Waianae’s chances of winning goes up.


  9. oia#1 August 24, 2016 7:24 pm

    Jeezy, how are going to talk crap about the guys you come out to support?! After all the ILH comes looking for kids from kahuku and waianae so they can win.


  10. Jeezy33 August 24, 2016 7:25 pm

    Alpha, I’m sorry. I don’t speak stupid.


  11. Alpha August 24, 2016 7:29 pm

    @jeezy33… oh is that why you been dodging me…. but of course, your reply is that of an elementary level…. I’m done, everybody got to see from the other post where you belong.


  12. Hauula93 August 24, 2016 7:51 pm

    This will be a real good game…Good luck to both teams.. I’ll give Waianae respect for coming to Kahuku and playing and this will be the 1 round of the OIA championship… Go BIG RED…


  13. Mahatma Gandhi August 24, 2016 7:55 pm

    I remember the days when Waianae ruled OIA football in the 1970s. The team color was black. All black helmets, no red “W” as they have now on the helmets. They came out in all Black uniforms and beat Kamehameha in the 1978 Prep Bowl. It was the 1980 Prep Bowl when Iolani pushed heavily favored Waianae all over the field that the program then went downhill and never recovered from the humiliation of that Prep Bowl. Kahuku had better players by the early 1980s, only Larry Ginoza’s coaching was allowing them to squeak by Kahuku in the playoffs. Kahuku took firm control of the OIA in the late 1980s. Best hit I ever seen in Prep Bowl history was the hit Waianae’s Nate Fletcher laid on Punahou’s John Kamana in the 1977 Prep Bowl game. I would also put that hit Manaia Atuaia laid on the St Louis punt cover man on last year’s state championship game as equal. He got thrown out of the game for that hit. I only saw the hit on YouTube. But during the game my peripheral vision caught the guy’s helmet go flying 30 yards down the field. Wicked hit.
    Fully half the great players on those great Waianae teams of the 1970s either went make at a young age or wuz locked up in prison for a long time.


  14. 87 August 24, 2016 8:30 pm

    The subliminal message of these pictures in newspaper articles showing other teams stiff arming or hitting a red raider is that we truly are ENEMY OF THE STATE!

    Goodluck to both teams hope its an injury free game.


  15. Hauula93 August 24, 2016 8:53 pm

    @Mahatma Gandhi… Back in 95′, Waianae had Chris pagofie who was a beast against Kahuku and had a memorable hit on the kick off..He busted through two wedges and made the hit on the ball carrier.. that was a mean hit too… Love this rivalry…. Good luck again…


  16. Jeezy33 August 24, 2016 9:04 pm

    Alpha, please stop being silly. You are the one claiming that tongans and samoans are “genetically built” for football, whatever that means. and then doing random google searches of how samoans like to play football as proof of their genetics. We also know where you belong… and apparently it’s not in college or any white collar job that requires any level of education.

    The warrior beat blog has much higher caliber of people and intellect than this place.


  17. Alpha August 24, 2016 9:20 pm

    @jeezy33….. random but yet credible sources that you cannot deny…. it’s also on YouTube because you obviously are a selective reader. But lemme join you on warrior beat blog and expose you to those folks like i did to you here. You said nothing but your own ignorant opinions while I drop facts that you try so hard not to believe….. yes… we are built for the game, and yes, you are not….


  18. 87 August 24, 2016 9:22 pm

    Back in my day Henry Crawford the MLB for Kahuku was laying the hat, mightve been the 1989 OIA playoffs he decleated Farringtons RB and made Larry Prices all time katoosh list.

    The 1995 Paogofie hit is on youtube somewhere.


  19. Good Story August 24, 2016 9:35 pm

    Yes…Henry Crawford was the original Katooshmeister. Nice to see these chatrooms lively as ever. Good to see Waianae back in the mix. Awesome to see a legit measuring stick for Kahuku this early in the season. If I know my Red Raiders, the first two games weren’t taken seriously…looking for them to turn it up a notch…GO BIG RED!


  20. RRFLbaby August 24, 2016 9:39 pm

    Chris Pagofie was a straight up Animal! Love this rivalry!
    Let’s go Boiz! Hit Somebody!
    Good luck to both squads!
    RRFL!


  21. Alpha August 24, 2016 9:41 pm

    @jeezy33 … everybody here knows that I alrdy own you. You only take jabs at me yet you don’t have one clue what I do. You stereotype because I’m samoan, you like to make claims about my intelligence yet you have not said anything relevant to any of the topics here. I showed you and everyone here proof of my claims but your the only one refusing the facts in front of you. The way I see it, whatever education background you come from did not help because you are still amongst us on these blogs claiming your superior status and trying to down grade others. Your one of those guys I wish to meet in person.


  22. The Red Sea August 24, 2016 9:46 pm

    Expect a muddy affair. Home field rule. Waianae better leave before the Faringtons highway contra flow starts in Nanakuli at 3:30.
    Kakuku takes this 38-14.


  23. Searider86 August 24, 2016 9:47 pm

    I didn’t realize how long its been since we were victorious against the Red Raiders….DANG! Hopefully we can keep it competitive! Best of luck to both teams, and no injuries! IMUA! TEAM! WAIANAE!!


  24. IDK August 24, 2016 10:02 pm

    Good to see Waianae ! 2 great traditions. Be there or be square! GO BIG RED! Chee polo in Jeezy 33 mouf!!


  25. Flying Eagle August 25, 2016 12:11 am

    Kahuku will crush them.
    LIGHT YEARS ahead of probably every team in Hawaii.


  26. YouWeesh August 25, 2016 3:06 am

    Just grateful Waianae is on the rise again! Heawikooo…Rugged gridiron style on both sides. Public school football still get em. Good luck to both teams….RRFL!


  27. TooMeke August 25, 2016 5:40 am

    RR4L!

    And glad to see Waianae coming up strong! I remember when it was always a beast of a game.

    Looking forward to an all-out battle. And no injuries.


  28. Jason Keuma August 25, 2016 6:43 am

    OC16 what game are you broadcasting on Friday night? Let me check, Kapolei vs. Castle. That should be exciting, and lopsided. Waianae held Kahuku to just 13 points in the playoffs, the lowest anyone held Kahuku. Waianae lost by less than 2 touchdowns, the closest anyone lost to Kahuku by last year. Waianae lost 30-0, then a few weeks later only lost 13-0? They improved, and will improve even more. Kapolei and Castle? Wrong choice. Thank you streaming live app ( hint hint Matuu Puluto), and the internet for being able to pick up the entertainment slack that xcast didnt take up. Not to mention names, but if you could charge your phone so you can post up dates, and video throughout the game that would be great, and dont let that craven kid hold the phone, he is really shaky.


  29. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 7:15 am

    lol alpha, just stop being obsessed over me already. If you don’t understand the difference between “genetic” (as in your claim that tongans and samoans GENETICALLY, i.e. hard coded IN THEIR DNA, which is remarkably similar to racist arguments in the 1800s and 1900s about certain ethnic groups only being good at something because of their race) and the random articles you post about samoans working hard at football and loving to play the game, then you obviously need to go back to waipahu community schools and try to get your GED.

    At this point, talking to you has become embarrassing, not only for yourself and whatever community you come from, but for myself as well, because I feel so bad for you. Please read a book.

    On a football note, I personally feel that Waianae, although very good, is overrated, and Kahuku will handle waianae relatively easily, even if the score may be close.


  30. Got17 August 25, 2016 7:25 am

    Buzz “Light Years”


  31. rrforlifebaby August 25, 2016 9:07 am

    Actually, I think OC16 is televising the Kahuku-Waianae game. I think Castle-Kapolei is on Xcast.


  32. Petey August 25, 2016 9:12 am

    Actually Jason, Kahuku/Waianae is on OC16. The Kapolei/Castle game is on Xcast.


  33. IDK August 25, 2016 9:30 am

    Actually Mililani vs Farrington is on xcast. But how about that game in “69”that article posted that there was 5000 people at that game! But back in the 78 season Kahuku vs Castle there was 7000 plus at that game! The tradition lives on!ROLL RAIDERS ROLL!


  34. Education First August 25, 2016 10:03 am

    At least this isn’t an academic bowl. Can you imagine how long people would sit and wait until one side got 1 question correct?

    Teams, the question is 1 = 1 = blank.

    BUZZ – Kahuku – “Um, is the answer, rover? (WRONG)

    BUZZ – Waianae – “We got the answer it’s robber! (WRONG)


  35. Bulukex August 25, 2016 10:14 am

    @jeezy 33

    Coach requires all his players to keep a 3.0 gpa you retard


  36. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 10:34 am

    So Bulukex, I guess you’re saying that Waianae would lose the battle of GPAs?


  37. rrfl August 25, 2016 11:30 am

    @education first. Why are you so angry? It sounds like you are a very smart and successful person. Why so angry? Be thankful of what you are fortunate to have in life. Try smiling.

    Good luck to both teams.

    Let’s leave education first alone.


  38. Paper Crane August 25, 2016 12:35 pm

    He, he, focus and bogus like the comments are all about Bragging Rights Bowl and after the game the comments will be less 50-60%, wonder why; anyway win or lose good luck to both teams and if it rains that’s going to give Sol Jay the slippery advantage. RR4LE


  39. rkaneshiro August 25, 2016 1:06 pm

    Should be an epic OIA battle Friday after the UH Cal walkabout debut from down unda. Hope this game not being officiated by the Head ref at the Waianae vs Kapolei game. It was a senior moment time out fest and unsportsmanlike conduct by an official! He needs a seat next to Larry price and let the game move along expeditiously for the enjoyment of the players and fans.
    Anyway, Waianae does not seem to play their best football at home for some reason but Kahuku is solid in Hauula. Maybe too much distractions or more exciting to get out of town with the boyz and go out on a raid. They have a good kicker to boot. After the heavy rains this week
    All the ulus flourishing. And they have a good one at QB. Waianae 20 Kahuku 19.


  40. Alpha August 25, 2016 1:15 pm

    @jeezy33… my last words with you, I’m obsessed because of the ignorance towards me and how you stereotype me just off of one fact, that I’m samoan. Yet you post on here the same thing every non samoan post about us, I’m not even from here or samoa, but when I moved to hawaii I thought Polynesia would be a little United. What I did notice is that the Asian influence here is so strong that the locals and Hawaiians actually look down on their Polynesian brothers and sisters smh. And you jeezy33 with your false claims of who I am is a true Definition of a Local Boy. Discrimination here is just as bad as the mainland, and yes…. we ARE genetically built for Football, you wouldn’t understand….. even though your the only one denying it, you can’t even to this forum that we are not…..


  41. Unko Alvin August 25, 2016 1:20 pm

    @aka Edumecated 1st; every RR4L got you figured out and right you seem cold like almost synthetic like you’re a numbers person almost like rumor robot who depends only on an I-phone or tablet like them defense mechanism have no feeling or smiles like the real people world; you sure need the latest upgrade on communication etiquette or better yet an attitude check or what the norm’s are; some great great people who have achieve never finish high school but still they had dreams and especially desire. Lastly, Education First sounds like great advice so did you finish education in first place? RR4L


  42. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 1:34 pm

    Moron.. I mean, Alpha. I’m going to take your last post to me and break it down into sections and address them. Maybe then you’ll finally understand. Are you ready? Be sure to read EXTRA CAREFULLY. pretend like your future GED depends on it. Okay, let’s do this!

    “I’m obsessed because of the ignorance towards me and how you stereotype me just off of one fact, that I’m samoan.”

    You stereotyped yourself. Not me. I never said that you didn’t know what you’re talking about becuase you’re samoan. You claimed that samoans are “genetically built” for football. I said that’s a load of crap and reminiscent of racist ideology that says that certain races are genetically predetermined for certain jobs and statuses in life. I took your point and gave you a counterargument using YOUR LOGIC. “if samoans are genetically built for football because they’re good at it (instead of you know, interest, hard work, and practice), does that mean kahuku and other schools suck at academics because they’re not genetically built for school?”

    do you see how ridiculous your argument sounds?

    So I’ll say it right now: you may be samoan, but you are not “built” for football in terms of “genetically, samoans were designed for football” much like white people or black people in the south, florida, and california weren’t “genetically built” for football but who comprise a vast percentage of the espn top 300. But you do appear to be an idiot, but that has nothing to do with you being samoan.

    Sorry, maybe that sentence structure was too complicated for you. let me break it down again.

    1. A lot of samoans like to play football. Some of them are very good at it. A smaller percentage of that population are able to play at elite levels. this does not mean that samoans are “genetically built” for football any more than white and black people from cali, florida, and the south are “genetically built” for football.

    2. You are an idiot, but not because you are samoan.

    The rest of your post, I have no idea why it’s relevant or why I should even care.

    Best of luck to you in your quest for a GED. Waipahu Community Schools is a great adult school.


  43. oia#1 August 25, 2016 1:47 pm

    Im a waianae fan but there is issues I have with the coaches. Too much trickery, bad calls and penalties. Onside kicks and fake punts that dont work puts the defense in bad positions! Bad calls such as going for it on 4th down or go ahead touchdowns a minute before halftime. Also getting the boys to play a more penalty free game, 150 yards a game is not going to help. With that being said if they can reduce some of the gambling and control the boys emotions I believe they will go far and I mean in the future aswell. I am very pleased tho on how far the coaches have brought the waianae program so far. Really looking forward to waianae being back in the mix after all these years!

    Best of luck to both teams.
    Waianae back on the rise!


  44. Education First August 25, 2016 1:58 pm

    Unko Alvin August 25, 2016 at 1:20 pm
    @aka Edumecated 1st; every RR4L got you figured out and right you seem cold like almost synthetic like you’re a numbers person almost like rumor robot who depends only on an I-phone or tablet like them defense mechanism have no feeling or smiles like the real people world; you sure need the latest upgrade on communication etiquette or better yet an attitude check or what the norm’s are; some great great people who have achieve never finish high school but still they had dreams and especially desire. Lastly, Education First sounds like great advice so did you finish education in first place? RR4L

    Edumecated? WOW that’s so original! HAHA! And why do you spell the word norms with an apostrophe in it (e.g. norm’s)? Is that what you are taught?


  45. RedRaider99 August 25, 2016 2:03 pm

    Hawaiiprep should be filtering all these posts. Just let the kids play. It was fun to read at first but now you guys just went overboard.


  46. Education First August 25, 2016 2:12 pm

    Unko Alvin August 25, 2016 at 1:20 pm
    @aka Edumecated 1st; every RR4L got you figured out and right you seem cold like almost synthetic like you’re a numbers person almost like rumor robot who depends only on an I-phone or tablet like them defense mechanism have no feeling or smiles like the real people world; you sure need the latest upgrade on communication etiquette or better yet an attitude check or what the norm’s are; some great great people who have achieve never finish high school but still they had dreams and especially desire. Lastly, Education First sounds like great advice so did you finish education in first place? RR4L

    Also, did you really try to write this or is it meant to be this sloppy? You just continue to prove to the world just how poor the academics is out there. I think I’m actually getting dumber trying to read this nonsense.


  47. Homegrown August 25, 2016 2:37 pm

    Can we get some admin to ban some IP address on here? Some people not here to talk sports, or do any good butdegrade whole communities, and bring negativity into something meant to be fun and highlite positive accomplishments.

    It’s too easy to be a troll on here and bash kids and communities because a couple knuckleheads talk nonsense.

    St.Louis is an awesome institution but guess what?? A lot of those kids contributing to that legacy come from “EBT” households, poor communities, etc.


  48. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 3:11 pm

    Moron.. I mean, Alpha. I’m going to take your last post to me and break it down into sections and address them. Maybe then you’ll finally understand. Are you ready? Be sure to read EXTRA CAREFULLY. pretend like your future GED depends on it. Okay, let’s do this!

    “I’m obsessed because of the ignorance towards me and how you stereotype me just off of one fact, that I’m samoan.”

    You stereotyped yourself. Not me. I never said that you didn’t know what you’re talking about becuase you’re samoan. You claimed that samoans are “genetically built” for football. I said that’s a load of crap and reminiscent of racist ideology that says that certain races are genetically predetermined for certain jobs and statuses in life. I took your point and gave you a counterargument using YOUR LOGIC. “if samoans are genetically built for football because they’re good at it (instead of you know, interest, hard work, and practice), does that mean kahuku and other schools suck at academics because they’re not genetically built for school?”

    do you see how ridiculous your argument sounds?

    So I’ll say it right now: you may be samoan, but you are not “built” for football in terms of “genetically, samoans were designed for football” much like white people or black people in the south, florida, and california weren’t “genetically built” for football but who comprise a vast percentage of the espn top 300. But you do appear to be an idiot, but that has nothing to do with you being samoan.

    Sorry, maybe that sentence structure was too complicated for you. let me break it down again.

    1. A lot of samoans like to play football. Some of them are very good at it. A smaller percentage of that population are able to play at elite levels. this does not mean that samoans are “genetically built” for football any more than white and black people from cali, florida, and the south are “genetically built” for football.

    2. You are an idiot, but not because you are samoan.

    The rest of your post, I have no idea why it’s relevant or why I should even care.


  49. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 3:12 pm

    oops sorry. that last was a double post.


  50. Jeezy33 August 25, 2016 3:19 pm

    “What I did notice is that the Asian influence here is so strong that the locals and Hawaiians actually look down on their Polynesian brothers and sisters smh. ”

    Alpha, btw, it’s extremely bizarre that you’re blaming what you perceive to be “locals and hawaiians looking down on polynesians” on “The Asian Influence.”

    You’re obviously projecting your own insecurities and generalizing them to “The Asians.” It would make a lot more sense if you were to say that Pacific Islanders are looked down in Hawaii because of American colonialism in the pacific (this would be accurate!), but blaming “The Asians” is kind of weird.

    But yes. Kahuku wins easily this weekend, even if the scoreboard does not reflect it. Both teams’ quarterbacks are not as good as people think they are; however, Kahuku has the much more talented football team, and always has for the past decade.


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