HHSAA makes changes to state football tourney

Saint Louis' Dylan Toilolo tackled Kahuku quarterback Cameron Renaud in the state championship game last year. A rematch for the state title this year would have to happen in an Open division tournament consisting of four OIA teams and two ILH tams. Jamm Aquino / Honolulu Star-Advertiser.
Saint Louis’ Dylan Toilolo tackled Kahuku quarterback Cameron Renaud in the state championship game last year. A rematch for the state title this year would have to happen in an Open division tournament consisting of four OIA teams and two ILH tams. Jamm Aquino / Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

The HHSAA voted Monday to add a third tier to the state football tournament, creating an Open division to go along with both Division I and Division II tournaments.


The Open division will consist of the top four OIA teams and the top two ILH teams. The Division I tournament will consist of four OIA teams, two BIIF teams and one team each from the ILH and MIL. The Division II tournament will consist of two OIA teams and one team each from the ILH, BIIF, KIF and MIL.


Here is the full breaking story from the Star-Advertiser. Reactions from coaches will be available later tonight on Hawaii Prep World.


COMMENTS

  1. anywaaaays!! August 23, 2016 10:26 pm

    The more you talk the more you sound ridiculous

    #ENEMY OF THE STATE


  2. ilh August 23, 2016 10:43 pm

    New season now, last year is over, nice to win the States, easy to brag how good you are until you lose, than all the excuses will come out, Kahuku will have a hard time against Bishop Gorman the #3 ranked team in the U.S.A. top 25. Remember, you lose to Bishop Gorman you will drop in both rankings. My pick, Bishop Gorman 48 Kahuku 7.


  3. iSpeakReality August 23, 2016 10:47 pm

    @anywaaaays

    You the only one sounding ridiculous. You living in the past of your overage player that people were clearly aware about.. Than for some reason you got this huge idea that ILH is not as strong because “Waianae beat Kam”. Kam beat the 3rd best team in the ILH D1. Props to Waianae?? I guess… Waianae if the “Farrington of the West”. Early ripe, early rotten.

    Now try clear all that trash from your small mind & worry about this season. Your weak league & a consistantly competitive ILH D1 league.


  4. iSpeakReality August 23, 2016 10:51 pm

    @ilh

    These guys not ready for Bishop Gorman. I can see the excuses already. “WE SHOULD HAVE PLAYED THEM LAST SEASON, OUR TEAM WAS BETTER LAST YEAR, WE LOST KEY PLAYERS.” That’s all they do is cry. Lose all their lives & Kahuku football is all they got.


  5. oia#1 August 24, 2016 3:58 am

    Most of the kids on st louis is from waianae, but gotta give respect to kahuku for winning 8 state titles with little resources they have. OIA owns 10 of them.


  6. oia#1 August 24, 2016 4:00 am

    I agree that the OIA should level the playing field by letting the kids transfer schools between seasons


  7. iSpeakReality August 24, 2016 7:01 am

    @oia#1

    Let the kids transfer amongst oia schools?? You’re kidding me right?? You’re prioritizing sports to transfer oia to oia?? Smh


  8. RRFLbaby August 24, 2016 8:35 am

    No one really wins with all this name calling and our league is better than yours.
    Every single public school has their fair share of students who have and will continue fo be as successful as their private school counterparts.
    Families want to send their student-athlete children to private schools, more power to them.
    True, the ILH is a much more competitive league in every sport. So what does it say about that “superior ” league when a public school wins a championship?

    Everything is relative. Let the players play and let’s see who remains standing. Bad winners (ie people who like to say they have a superior league) are just as bad as sore losers.

    Good luck to all the teams!
    RRFL


  9. iSpeakReality August 24, 2016 9:10 am

    A “Competitive league” is based of off decades of consistent competition. You telling me an OIA D1 division is competitive??

    Kahuku
    Waianae
    Kaiser
    Campbell
    Moanalua
    Aiea

    Mililani
    Farrington
    Leilehua
    Kapolei
    Kailua
    Castle

    And you guys take 4 teams out of this every year to the state tournament?? And the ILH can’t even get a 2nd birth? Smh, great thing you got former ILH players as coaches out there winning state titles for the OIA.


  10. SimpleSimon August 24, 2016 12:30 pm

    Where did the $3million go?


  11. IDK August 24, 2016 1:32 pm

    @ispeakreality! Shut up you ugly monkey! Chee polo in yo mouf!


  12. YouWeesh August 24, 2016 2:58 pm

    ISpeakreality…are you an adult? You sound very bitter and must have something against Kahuku and the OIA. All ILH will continue to do is recruit the best from the OIA. For teams that dont recruit, why not give credit where credit is due? Is it that hard to put aside your pride and see how biased this new division is for ILH? You taking things very personal to say “lose all their lives and Kahuku football is all they got.” Yous one real scrub for say something like that. But go on, hide behind your keyboard. Good luck to everyone…#RRFL! Even when Salty and Trashy are the trendy flavors today


  13. rrforlifebaby August 24, 2016 3:28 pm

    Like I said, what doe’s it say about the “superior” competitive league when a public school wins a state championship(in any sport, but since we’re talking football, how about 8 titles)?

    Everyone has their opinion as to what is fair or not fair. Personally, I have no problem with the Open Division allowing 2 ILH teams. The 2 teams to play at the end deserve to be there because that’s just how it worked out

    What happened in the past is done. If we’re all honest with ourselves, I think we can all agree that in most years since the State tourney started, there is no guarantee that a 2nd ILH team would’ve made it to the championship game to make it an all ILH final.

    Like St Louis forced everyone(especially Big Red) to step up their game back in the day, maybe this new tourney format will do the same for the rest of the OIA.
    RRLL!


  14. iSpeakReality August 24, 2016 3:28 pm

    @YouWeesh
    I going tell you again what I’ve been saying the whole time here. The rules for the state tournament benefits the OIA because they have the most teams representing. 4 teams respresenting the OIA gives a high percentage of winning the State tournament. Out of those 4 teams you got the 2nd, 3rd & 4th seed teams that are ranked lower than the ILH 2nd place team every year. So being that they are trying to change the rules to 2 ILH teams is great because it should be 2 ILH teams. Rather than having 1 quality team out of 4 OIA teams every year. Adding a 2nd seed ILH team may add more quality to the state tournament games.

    Now on the other end of “recruiting”. When are you public school crybabies gonna stop using the excuse of “recruiting”. ILH is funded financially, offer greater opportunities & because of that they can recruit. I’m sure if not all, majority of you wouldn’t turn down a full ride to play for Punahou, St. Louis or Kam. If you did turn it down than you wouldn’t know what putting yourself in the best opportunity is. Its no secret, private schools pump out more college athletes than public school does. Why? Because of the mindset long term goals rather than a short term meaningless accomplishment. Believe me, private schools are built to further education by prepping them for college.

    And for me to say football is all Kahuku has out there. ITS TRUE! Besides having each other what else you guys got besides a quality shirt printing program at Kahuku? Only got football, you see anyone supporting your volleyball or basketball team like they do football?? I don’t think so. All I see is RR flags & bed sheets with spray painted art in front every house when it comes to football season. And what’s sad is that generations after generations think that after football its done. Nothing to further their lives but revolve it around high school football. All the talent all shoot their load early & don’t make it past high school. If they do its a sad 1% that try to make something of themself. Very sad!

    @IDK

    Bulleh…. We speak English out here. I know one of our social media buddies posted your English progress at Kahuku & it ain’t firing on all cylinders. Start using the English words & keep your head in them books.


  15. Norhtshore August 24, 2016 6:42 pm

    iSpeakReality: Let’s get one thing straight. Public school people aren’t crying about how the ILH has the resources to go out and recruit top athletes within the state. They’re just making a legitimate statement. It’s no secret as you’ve mentioned, private schools pump out more college athletes than public schools only because they are able to recruit the “blue chip” players that are amongst the top players in the state. Just imagine if the private schools were to field a team with players whose parents are able to afford the tuition and not be able to recruit, they would have a mediocre team and not as many players would be offered college scholarships. Simple as that, it’s a no brainer. It’s sounds that you’re bothered by how supportive the community is about the football program and it’s only because we have the athletes that are football players and Kahuku is the pride of the Northshore. There’s no where in Hawaii that the support and pride is much greater than Kahuku’s and just to reiterate to you…yes Kahuku is all about football but we are able to compete just as much as any high school in other sports. It’s more than 1% that have made something of themselves…Kahuku has the most NFL players from Hawaii and it’s an accomplishment and we’re proud of it.


  16. Matuu Pulotu August 24, 2016 7:25 pm

    Football is king at Kahuku but we support all of the sports and clubs. But what other single sport do you have 60, 70, 80 maybe even an absurd 100+ players? None unless you count the entire track n field team. Look at any university or college and you see the same kind of support other than traditional basketball powerhouses in Duke or North Carolina. It should be sweeter to win states when the OIA team beats two ILH teams to get it. We will see what they say then. Good luck to all. RRFL.


  17. iSpeakReality August 24, 2016 9:06 pm

    @NorthShore

    Something worth “imagining” is simply something not real..So whatever fantasy you got imagining how much more better public schools would be with their players simply will not.happen as long as private schools are around. But take you little imagining mind to this. What if you had all your “blue chip” kids at public schools. How much of them would take advantage of bottom tier education to go to college? I think the percent will still be at 1%. Which means all you life or die high school fanatics need to stop.living through high school football & push these kids to get off.of.this island. It doesn’t start with the kid, it starts with the adults.


  18. Checkyoself August 25, 2016 1:09 pm

    Once you go to a silver spoon school you only should play silver spoon schools!!!
    Public schools should play public schools PERIOD!!!!!
    These private schools can go play mainland private schools. That’s how should be!!!!
    To me, it’s just another way to keep our people down by the so called football powers where they can offer an athlete “candy” to be on their team…
    What’s fair is fair!!!
    If all us was to boycott our young athletes from attending silver spoon schools,(attending just for a sport) that would be fair… You play where you from PERIOD!!!
    Go play I get more money than you someplace else!!!
    I wanna see TRUE HAWAII FOOTBALL!!!
    TRUE COMMUNITY PRIDE FOOTBALL!!!!!!
    Time to change up the whole HHSAA!!!


  19. Northshore August 25, 2016 5:48 pm

    iSpeakReality: Your comprehension needs to improve because you’re taking words out of context. I didn’t say. “how much more better public schools would be with players simply will not happen as long as private schools are around.” With the resources to recruit, it would provide the ILH schools with “blue chip” players from within the state and that’s an advantage that the ILH has over the OIA schools. The OIA schools must play with home grown athletes. It’s reason to believe that “blue chip” players that are recruited by ILH schools are more apt to receive several college scholarships and this is a reason that the ILH has more percentage of athletes going on to college. College football scholarships are the ticket to further any athlete’s education whether they’re from an ILH or any public high school in Hawaii. Your 1% of Kahuku’s athletes going to college is a manini percentage and I defer to address that issue because you’re just blowing smoke..and what is to you what percentage goes to college..it’s their life and choice when they face the world because your concern doesn’t count.


  20. iSpeakReality August 25, 2016 6:19 pm

    @NorthShore

    If its more than 1% of public school athletes going to college I’d be surprised. Very surprised. And we not talking just one year & pau. We talking a successful collegiate career.


  21. Northshore August 26, 2016 5:21 am

    ILH: We’re not leaning to beat Bishop Gorman and there won’t be any excuses because we are aware that Bishop Gorman is heavily stacked with players from all over the country. It’s going to be an honor to be able to play BG, win or lose and because not only for football but the experience of traveling to the mainland and how this trip will be remembered for the rest of their lives. It doesn’t matter and it’s not an important issue if Kahuku loses and drops in the rankings because it’s all about who will be the number 1 team at the end of the season regardless if it is Kahuku or someone else. Be humble because your mockery of Kahuku will make you eat your words someday.


  22. RuggedSlopes August 26, 2016 7:23 am

    OIA: Humble is something that all these “has beens” in your stands & here chiming in needs to take a note of. And here’s another word of advice, ACT LIKE YOU BEEN THERE BEFORE. Although the majority of you “adults” never did experience the hype of winning a championship & are living through these kids. The first thing about being humble is acting the part not acting the fool. Parties, Parades & all the extra BS is silly.
    Gorman? I guess its an experience being that 95% of the kids won’t be playing beyond high school ball. Maybe in the future Gorman will come here looking to play you. I’ve heard Form an & De La Salle did that in the past.


  23. iSpeakReality August 26, 2016 7:43 am

    Real teams come out & go looking for real teams to play. If Gorman really saw value in playing Kahuku they would take the plane ride out here. Money ain’t no issue for them but instead of wasting money they had you guys come visit them.
    Remember real teams. Two #1 ranked teams took the plane ride & came out here to man up against St. Louis & all you guys got was a 2nd best Cal Poly. You think your program pumps out the elite? Elite is measured in different ways & it ain’t winning single digit “Hawaii Championships”.


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