Comments on: ‘SuperConference’ revisited https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:56:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: footballfan2013 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-2158 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:56:26 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-2158 What a fantastic idea, you would have new rivalries sprouting up all over the place, I would love to see those games. I think such a format would increase the skill level of football for all schools involved.
I think the only issue might be traveling expenses? Maybe, who knows? However, a great idea.

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By: CriticalReader https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1887 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:02:27 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1887 By Paul:

“C-Reader, I don’t put much blame on Saint Louis in that situation.

1. It was still the first half. Most coaches play their starters for a half in a blowout.

2. They ran the ball. I really don’t mind any team that throws or runs in any situation. But they ran the ball, which to most fans is acceptable. They could’ve taken a knee for the final few minutes of the first half, but that would be silly.

Response:

1. Look at Punahou’s game summaries from games with DII teams. Second stringers in 1st

2. 2 out of the 3 plays I highlighted from the St. Louis v. P5 game were (one with the score 28-7, the other with the score 35-7) were passes. From Kuhns.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1830 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:59:07 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1830 C-Reader, I don’t put much blame on Saint Louis in that situation.

1. It was still the first half. Most coaches play their starters for a half in a blowout.

2. They ran the ball. I really don’t mind any team that throws or runs in any situation. But they ran the ball, which to most fans is acceptable. They could’ve taken a knee for the final few minutes of the first half, but that would be silly.

The question is, how does a D-I/D-II overlapping schedule help either team? In this era, the smaller programs clearly don’t have the resources to keep pace with the brand-name schools.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1829 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:55:58 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1829 Moke G – are you related to Kawika?

I agree with you on the combo of the leagues. But I also like a D-III for the smaller programs. Anuenue is thinking about trying 8-man football since their varsity numbers might be low for the next couple of years. (They have a fairly large elementary-school base.)

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1828 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:54:30 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1828 Lene, I agree with you on the merits of combining. What about the smaller programs?

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1827 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:48:13 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1827 In reply to Philip Enos.

Good point, Philip. I think once Division III opens up in the OIA (if ever), the other leagues will follow suit. It takes three teams to establish a championship sport. And it takes three leagues to get sanctioning from the HHSAA for a state championship.

As it is right now, most of the teams that I would envision in D-III aren’t in position to play for a championship. Bob Wagner was an early proponent of D-III and he saw it as a statewide opportunity, not just for the BIIF, where it would thrive as well.

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By: Philip Enos https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1825 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:33:38 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1825 The thing for me with the Division III is that these kids don’t have the opportunity to play for a state championship. It doesn’t sit right with me that we should penalize these guys because there school has a small enrollment. Kahuku has a small enrollment also but they are still in Division I. I think with creating a “superconference” and a Division III, it encourages players to transfer out of their home school into another school just for football and not for education. There could be a gifted athlete at Roosevelt that wants to go and play at Roosevelt because that’s where his entire family went, but will transfer to a team in the super conference because they won’t get any recognition or college looks because they played in Division III.

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By: CriticalReader https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1818 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:57:21 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1818 Midweek Columnist Steve Murray wronte a piece everyone here should read. Here’s an excerpt:

‘Harry Carson, the Hall of Fame New York Giants linebacker, summed up the sport’s future succinctly. “From a physical risk standpoint, you know what you are doing when you sign your kid up – that he can hurt his knee. What you should know now is your child could develop a brain injury as a result of playing football. It’s not just on the pro level, but on every level of football. The question is, do you want it to be your child?”
The researchers profiled seem to agree children should not play tackle football until the age of 14.
Is that too drastic? In 2006, Eric Pelly was just 18 when he died following his fourth concussion. He too had CTE.”

Limk to Murray’s article:

http://www.midweek.com/nfl-not-alone-in-denying-damage/

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By: lene https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1797 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:04:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1797 Hey Paul yes that is what my post was about… Only football all other sports stay the same.

here let me make it more clear. O.I.L.H.A
OIA
Oahu Interscholastic Association
ILH
Interscholastic League of Honolulu

st.louis
Kamehameha
Punahou
Iolani
would join the OIA DIV. 1 = 2 go to east and other 2 to the west.

daimen
st. francis
pac- five
would join the OIA division 2

The only suggestion I would make would be encourage the teams to do more pass leagues and control scrimmages. so when its season time with new additions go straight in to league play. The only change for playoffs would be now without the ILH berth the O.I.L.H.A would have 4 teams instead of the current OIA 3 ILH 1. the good thing some years might be all ILH or OIA thats the fun part of it.

Here theres a good balance of Above average, average, and weak (but competitive) teams on both divisions. as for teams coming up and going down every two years teams can petition the transition. Only because if a DIv. 1 or Div 2 is doing good or bad two consecutive years then that might be a good reason to change. but dont know my humble thought

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By: CriticalReader https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/superconference-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1796 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:09:25 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=16451#comment-1796 And, let me ask everyone this hypothetical:

1. Kamehameha and Punahou are ranked #s 1 and ‘2 in all the various and sundry polls that have cropped up, going into a weekend of play.

2. During that weekend’s ILH games, a first game involves one of EITHER Kamehameha or Punahou against one of the weakest (this year) ILH teams. EITHER Punahou or Kamehameha plays in a following game.

3. In the FIRST game played at Aloha Stadium, either Punahou or Kamehameha rolls over their opponent 42-0,

4. In the SECOND game, either Punahou or Kamehameha has the ball on their own 50 yd. line, 1st down, with 1:00 remaining of running time.

5. In that SECOND game, Punahou or Kamehameha is winning by either 35-0 or 42-0 (take your pick).

6. REMEMBER, Punahou and Kamehameha go into those games at 1 and 2 ranks in the “polls”.

QUESTION: You think the Punahou or Kamehameha coaches try to throw the ball in that remaining 1:00 minute? Would you be surprised if they did?

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