Comments on: Saint Louis remains No. 25 in the nation

By: TooMeke

TooMeke — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:27:52 +0000

Always good to have any HI teams from any sport/extracurricular activity in the top national rankings.

By: Education First

Education First — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:25:38 +0000

Thanks all for the feedback. Interesting insights in that all private schools aren’t cut from the same cloth. There are schools that claim elitism and those that are “blue collar”. Funny how Punahou falls into the former category yet openly bends rules to enable the athletic ringers to 1. Get admitted when by most non-athletic metrics and measurables have no right to step on campus and 2. Put in place “crutches” (i.e. special classes, dedicated tutors, lax disciplinary oversight, etc.) that takes away resources from other school activities and initiatives. Almost forgot to mention the paid housing near campus for elite athletes sponsored by school alumni and boosters.

If anyone has evidence to refute the diversity scholies to athletes, special tutors and classes, etc. please post. My prediction: Crickets.

HIP HOP DANCER 4 LIFE

By: Alpha

Alpha — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 04:04:41 +0000

Thanks for the feed back. . .

By: Envy

Envy — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 02:44:05 +0000

@FightingHawynOfNotreDame, you are correct, with St. Louis, along with Damien and St. Francis being a private and religious affiliated school, they don’t have the available resources that the bigger private schools do, they rely a lot on alumni funding and donations. Enrollment at St. Louis was probably bigger before they began to dominate in football, since at that time, St. Louis only had grades 7 to 12. So football doesn’t always mean higher enrollment. St. Louis is also a “legacy” school. Many families have had grandfathers, fathers, sons, etc. that continually attend the school keeping the family pipeline to the school. Depending on the community that a person resides in, parents make the conscious decision to send their children to a private school not so much for sports only, but for the educational value and opportunities that they feel they can’t get at their communities public school. I grew up in Kalihi, so my parents options at the time were Farrington, or district exempt to McKinley, or private school. My parents chose private.

By: FightingHawynOfNotreDame

FightingHawynOfNotreDame — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:01:32 +0000

@Alpha St. Louis does a lot with very little. They may not have the resources of Iolani, Punahou and KS, but they still are an option for families who want their kids to get a better education and can’t afford the Punahou, Mid Pac & Iolani’s of this world. Quite a few Kamehameha rejects end up at St Louis.

Face it, the hawaii public schools system is broken. Many parents don’t value education. If your kid is smart and you want to give them an opportunity, you sacrifice and send them to a private school.

By: Alpha

Alpha — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:32:32 +0000

Punahou, Iolani, Kam school can survive without football. But can the same be said for stl?

By: FightingHawynOfNotreDame

FightingHawynOfNotreDame — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 00:11:44 +0000

@Education First there was some growing unrest among some of the Punahou Alums that Punahou had become too much like USC. Punahou making special classes so the athletes could handle the school work. A bunch of those alums were pushing for Punahou to be more like Stanford and admit those who could do the work, not just play football. I had hear from quite a few parents that there were also issues with these special cases who were untouchable and were getting a way with quite a bit of nonsense. Could be possible there was a shift in power and Punahou and Ane stopped getting his special cases in the admissions process. Seems like I recall a Punahou running back transferring to Kahuku…

By: Education First

Education First — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:46:07 +0000

CTE also a major factor in the decline of interest in FB amongst affluent communities. Do schools want to be known for bringing in kids to do the “dirty work” that their typical student body demographic won’t?

By: Education First

Education First — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:37:16 +0000

Might be the beginning of the end for FB dominance at Punahou. JV numbers are way down and alumni & parents of current “regular” students getting fed up with the number diversity scholies going to mercenaries whose sole purpose on campus is to fill athletic teams with ringers. Many feel these resources should go to children from underprivileged/underserved groups who excel in academics, music, etc. and feel that the school has lost its way with the emphasis on being a sports (especially FB and BB) juggernaut.

Education First indeed.

By: Education First

Education First — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:55:06 +0000

Sorry, “Flame Away Boys.”

Damn, interacting with the RR4L Flame-Boyz is making me dumber. #HELP