Comments on: Q&A: Catching up with Saint Louis football coach Cal Lee https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Mon, 04 Mar 2019 20:11:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Lambert Chee https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121839 Mon, 04 Mar 2019 20:11:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121839 I attended St. Louis on a true (academic) scholarship 50 years ago. For those in need, St. Louis offered ‘tuition assistance’. I played no sports, but was able to attend an Ivy League school (on another scholarship) after graduation and medical school. Was I recruited, no, but I could not have attended without the scholarship (I did not know about the tuition assistance at that time.) So St. Louis is not all athletics, not even today.

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By: Kakaako https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121595 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 07:40:58 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121595 Public schools get lucky if they recruit one kid every 10yrs. STL and Pun recruit 10 kids every year.

The recruiting is not the main issue. The issue is the merger/alliance and thinking the OIA is equal to the ILH so they should play in the same conference.

Damien, Iolani and Pac-5 chose to play in D2 and leave St. louis behind because of their excessive recruiting which led to blow outs and beat downs. STL is losing friends so they are forcing the OIA to play with them and combine regular seasons. STL is now beating down on the OIA with an average score of 49-7. Waianae, Farrington, Kapolei, Campbell, Mililani and Kahuku are all being used as rag dolls for the super team “STL” to beat up on.

STL needs Kahuku and Mililani to be good so that the games will be close but STL will always have access to more elite players state wide to ensure they are always “one up” on the OIA and win championships.

STL why dont you go play Gormon, Della salle or Mater Dei? Sked?

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By: t103 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121529 Tue, 19 Feb 2019 15:48:45 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121529 To think that parents who would send their kids to public schools in their communities would actually be able to “invest” in the public school system to improve it is laughable. If parents sent their children to their local schools, it wouldn’t change anything b/c the amount of money it would take to actually improve the entire school system is millions upon millions. I mean for goodness sakes, it cost so much money to put AC in certain schools cuz it’s so freaking hot, and thats not even every single school. We barely survive paying for basic necessities b/c the high cost of living. The sate that has the best school system in the U.S. somewhere on the mainland was only able to invest “community” money b/c they have the lottery system and they poured all that revenue back into the state school system and THAT is how they were able to have the #1 public school system I the nation.

And although I don’t have kids, I have a niece and the school she is slated to go to for h.s. just passes students on to the next grade so the teachers don’t have to deal with them for one more year if they flunk them and have to repeat a grade. A lot of violence amongst students, and a high population of immigrants who English isn’t their first language so the entire curriculum for the entire school was changed to be a lot more simpler which left everyone else being “dumbed down” so to speak, and it’s like they are in basic math, english, etc etc. The current students tell me that it’s REALLY hard to fail that school and or get kicked out. What would you do in this situation? How would you be able to improve that school as you say? would you Send your child still yet? Or given the chance send your child to have a better opportunity for education??

And to say the feds need to investigate cal lee for recruiting
1. its not illegal
2. Those are lofty accusations to suggest that cal lee is doing more illegal things then abuse of power, selling drugs, using authority to cover up crimes, using other peoples computers to send out emails to mislead investigations, defrauding banks for loans, making up aliases to secure loans, stealing from children, stealing money from your grandmother.

I’m not a hater of public schools, I’m just being real.

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By: notes https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121333 Thu, 07 Feb 2019 06:53:23 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121333 if people like T103 invested in their own community schools instead of abandoning their own community when the ILH and “coach” cal comes calling with money, maybe the public school system would be better. it starts with kids having pride and staying home to play for their community. T103 can make all the excuses he wants but it’s so sad to see how ILH greed has infected everyone. no matter how many kids you steal from our community, kahuku just reloads. we have the most state titles since state tournament became a thing and since HHSAA banned 19 year olds from playing for high school. people like T103 have hate in their hearts for the community schools they abandoned and want to see us fail but we will rise above the haters.

the state needs to actually investigate “coach” cal and the ILH recruiting agenda. you’d be surprised at how much corruption is in there. worse than the kealohas

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By: T103 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121309 Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:44:58 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121309 @notes k first off, let me get this squared away, my apologies if you are genuinely hurt over reading comments on here, not my intention. I think there is a bigger picture to look at in this whole thing.

It isn’t all about football. Football isn’t and shouldn’t be “life” so to speak.
– Football is just part of the whole picture. If no one recruited and everyone stayed in their community, that doesn’t guarantee good education. Private schools give better education then public school, and of course the parents pay through their nostrils for it. It’s not like our public school system is rated so high. If we had a quality public school educational system, then I think a lot of parents would send their kids public school cuz it’s free but parents will work 2-3 jobs just to put their kids through private school for better education.
– As a parent I wouldn’t sacrifice sending my kid to the public school in my district just to “build the football program”

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By: notes https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121297 Sat, 02 Feb 2019 19:17:54 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121297 T103 the only one with a victim mentality is you. “my own community and community school is not good enough for myself or my family. if i don’t get an ILH ‘education’ then nobody can ever succeed in life.” it’s the ultimate in victim mentality when you think your own home and community isn’t good enough and then instead of working to build it up and make its football program successful, you join the people like “coach” cal who flat out admitted to recruiting in order to destroy the very communities you came from. tbh my heart actually hurts reading all these hurtful comments from people like you and all the other ILH apologists here

why would we expect any different though? the ILH has deep pockets and everyone has a price

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By: Wainakea https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121272 Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:55:14 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121272 It’s kinda nuts how people are so obsessed with recruiting…you don’t go to school just to represent to your neighborhood. You go to school to become what you want to be. If a kid gets recruited and goes to an ILH school, good for them. It’s sad from a public school standpoint, but to ban for the purposes above is putting the cart before the horse.

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By: T103 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121269 Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:19:44 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121269 @ILH thats what I’ve been saying too, if ur slamming the coach and ILH school for recruiting, then why u don’t slam the individual student athlete as well as the parents who accept that scholarship offer. Slam the ILH school for doing that and then at the same time be fair the slam the kid and parents, b/c in your opinion, the didn’t stand up for their community or have pride or blah blah blah blah blah. Then maybe I should do it, ur own kids and parents are weak for not being able to withstand temptation of scholarships and free money, what a bunch of losers yea notes? yea ???. Man good thing this process weeds out those families who are freaking donkeys in your community, who knows, maybe they will go on to play professional and just maybe they will come back after being successful and move their entire families out of your community and then u won’t have to see them and have it b a reminder that they suck, and have no community pride!?!? @NOTES yup my family has NEVER had to deal with our family as a whole being ripped apart from the evil ILH b/c we don’t see it as that, we see it as parents making the decision that they feel bests suits their kid and their future. We don’t have this dumb victim mentality, we actually encourage growth and progress, whatever that may look like. We don’t have this dumb “crab in a bucket” mentality. And lets just get real, its freakin high school sports, who the heck cares what families are cheering against or for. I mean seriously. The only one the seems to be torn and loosing much much much sleep and butt hurt is you apparently? I mean if we took a poll of your community, would it actually be that majority of them would say “yes we are the victims, yes we loose sleep over it, yes we need to go counseling over this, yes, my community is torn apart”?
@??? Am I crazy and living under a rock? If you were a business owner and on someones resume noticed the school they graduated from was your very own school you graduated from, would ur interested not peak b/c u both graduated from the same school? thats all Im’ saying. Oh AND I don’t know CEO’s and business owners of large companies in hawaii who graduated from private school or anything. Thats none of my business right?

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By: afan https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121262 Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:08:31 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121262 St. Louis is the reason college coaches came to Hawaii in droves. Now word is out that there is talent at other schools around the island. Just like that another kid from your neighborhood school off to college to represent Hawaii. Recruiting will continue in the ILH, it’s their right as a school. Complaining doesn’t change it. Unless you’re planning on talking to every athlete and the parent about the many reasons to stay rooted…save it! Some kids go and some stay. Nothing anyone can do about it. I’m sure the same guys cheering against St. Louis is the same guys cheeering for Tua and Alabama on Saturdays!

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By: ILH https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/qa-catching-up-with-saint-louis-football-coach-cal-lee/comment-page-1/#comment-121249 Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:00:25 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103733#comment-121249 Just wondering why I never hear people, who share the same view as you do, ever crucify those from your community who have benefitted from going to these private schools. If it has been occurring for such a long time and has come “into the light” why do your very own people continue to leave?
Why not condemn them also?

Some of the most notable and well respected families from your area have a family member or themselves who have benefitted from attending private schools. I dont understand this. They shouldnt be blind to what is happening now but it still is happening. What gives?

You are holding this coach to the fire but what about your own people? Wait does the community shun them when they send their child to private school, do you shame them? Are they corrupted for wanting to be a part of a corrupt system?

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