Comments on: Possible formation if OIA-ILH union passes

By: Manley

Manley — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 06:33:09 +0000

Mahalo Nick for the reponse.

By: 88

88 — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 05:30:04 +0000

Maybe if you get the officiating crew that does the Samoa Bowl they stand a chance. Like one of them said when questioned about the terrible calls ” after the came you guys get it the plane and ko home. I have to live hea”… Cheer hooo boyz, chee hoo….

By: Polo

Polo — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:48:26 +0000

@Setu, Samoa has made alot of improvement, but they cannot hang with the Hawaii Giants. They would be considered D2 ,probably D3. The top teams in D2 will dominate them. Hawaii football is too strong!

By: Setu

Setu — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:45:32 +0000

I say no need change much. In the state tourney just add american samoa’s champs in that way the ilh can add their 2nd place team so all get chance. I think samoa can hang with hawaii’s Giants. In my opinon samoa power 4 schools (Leone/Samoana/Tafuna/Funkytown) is equal level to Maui and Big islands teams. Would be fun to watch.

By: Hahashandah

Hahashandah — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:16:30 +0000

@rpaahana, Without the NI participating that this open division playoffs this cant truly be a “state champion” with that said, allow the BIIF and MIL to continue their regular schedule then at the end of season instead of the top 6 teams from the open division going to playoffs have only the top 4 go, and add in the BIIF/MIL Champs that puts us back in the 6 team state tourney we have today.

Now that i think about it though, this merger only really helps the ILH get more chances to win. I vote leave it as it is. That way, its still just the best of the best.

By: Nick Abramo

Nick Abramo — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:16:25 +0000

In reply to Manley. To Manley — In the newspaper article, according to trusted Honolulu Star-Advertiser sources, the people who created the proposal are former HHSAA executive director Keith Amemiya, OIA executive director Ray Fujino, ILH executive director Blane Gaison and ILH assistant director Georges Gilbert. The newspaper article also points out that Fujino, when asked, said he was not part of it.

By: Manley

Manley — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:01:46 +0000

So this proposal was not ok ed by the ILH? Hmmm. So Nick, who or what group presented this proposal? Names? Did I miss it in the numerous articles? Why don’t they just have a OIA / ILH Oahu championship like the old days. It will really suck when the ILH teams start blowing out the weak OIA teams in their conference. As it is now, OIA has problems moving weak and strong teams around with only the previous year records to go on.

By: AOK

AOK — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 22:47:43 +0000

@rpaahana For the same reason that the Super Bowl champions are called “world champs.” Do you really believe that there is another team in the world who could have beaten the Broncos last season that was not in the NFL? To answer anything other than no would be plain ignorant. Similarly, there is no chance any neighbor island school would be able to ever defeat a giant like Kahuku, STL, Punahou, etc.

By: rpaahana

rpaahana — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:51:30 +0000

Why are you all still calling it a State Championship? Call it Prep Bowl again, don’t call it a state title. Oahu folks so quick to create a plan with no NI factor (yes proposal gave MIL & BIIF the option to join, but I am sure money will prevent a multi-isle regular season division). Short memories you OIA guys have. I remember wondering why did you guys play the Prep Bowl back in the day. OIA could not compete at all. But your opportunity was maintained and OIA schools got better. By the way, 6 of 10 teams making the playoffs is a joke.

By: Craig

Craig — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:07:54 +0000

Makes sense, but it is what it is. I think state records would reflect it an really wouldn’t take anything away from teams like that other than the label. It is still MoHS football, etc. Then saying you are a Division I State Champion, but still knowing you are second tier won’t help much. For some of those teams in the bottom division (left out ‘Anuenue, unless they have decided to do away with football altogether), they barely have enough kids to safely have a full team. Should 8-Man be considered for this lower level?

And if this goes through, where will the KIF fall in the new separation? they are a +/- between those last two levels on any given year.

Anyways, all hypothetical at this point in time though. Exciting days ahead!