Comments on: Lewis: ‘(OIA chooses) to come up small’ https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Fri, 23 Feb 2018 03:59:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103536 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:15:52 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103536 anywaaaays!! June 12, 2017 at 12:34 pm
..oh and you are wrong. When Kahuku wins championships the sales in their local apparel shop hit six figures and an average of 6 or more players get offered D1 scholarships (thats over a million dollars worth of scholarship money). Championships do equal money, money that the ILH is losing out on and thats why the ILH is trying to force change in the system.

SUCKAS!

@anywaays, I am just wondering sir. Do you just make up random numbers or do you have any any evidence to support all of your statements?

If you look at this article provided by our newspaper: http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/recruiting/

I do not count an average of 6 Kahuku Players getting NCAA D1 Scholarships. So far this is how it looks since 2016.

2016 – 3 players
2017 – 3 players
2018 – 4 players (so far)
2019 – 3 players (so far)
2020 – 3 players (so far)

Honestly, where are you getting your figures from? It seems you just make up stuff to antagonize others or to try and win an argument. It makes you not credible when you do this. This isn’t even close to the 6 players on average you are referring to.

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By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103534 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:06:07 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103534 anywaaaays!! June 13, 2017 at 6:33 pm
You ask too much questions – Six figures during a championship year that’s all you need to know!

@ anywaaaays, Once again sir, there is no evidence provided that supports your statement. The math clearly shows that while a nice profit is made, it isn’t near the 6 figure mark you are making claims about. Your article and public record of non-profit organizations state your argument is incorrect. Thanks you though.

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By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103533 Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:02:51 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103533 @ Whyy, even if you only go to 2014, sales still do not hit $100,000 per year on average if you do the math. That still is only $71,428 and change. Still not close.

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By: Whhy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103481 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 23:21:14 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103481 Watcher…

“2001 to 2017 is either 15 – 16.5 years based on when the site actually started since it only says since 2001 and doesn’t give a day or month.”

cmon now the article was written in April, 2014. So it’s not including the last couple of seasons sales. I don’t know that if helps the other opinion but if your going to sound like your giving back facts at least check the easy stuff.

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By: Coach C https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103436 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:23:18 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103436 If Baldwin and Hilo no like play the open ( they have played the last 16 years). Then go with Ilh1 Oia1,2 and 3. Let ILH play Oia2 since O2 played O1 in the Oia championships. That way ILH get points for beating the top of OIA.

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By: anywaaaays!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103420 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 04:33:27 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103420 You ask too much questions – Six figures during a championship year that’s all you need to know!

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By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103410 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 02:20:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103410 @ Fo Real, the only evidence given so far was the article provided by anyways. Here is the exact quote from the article.

“Kahuku.org which has made over $1 million in revenues since 2001.”

2001 to 2017 is either 15 – 16.5 years based on when the site actually started since it only says since 2001 and doesn’t give a day or month.

So even if we use 15 years which means I am not even factoring in 2001 and all of 2017 until June 13, 2017, that is still only $66,666.67 per year.

While nothing wrong with making that much money, that isn’t even close to making $100,000/year.

Now granted, there are some years that they might make $100,000 and others where they make $33,333.33 which would average it out.

But there is not data saying that happens. The only evidence provided is the site has revenue over 1 Millions. When you check public records, it says it’s $1,000,412.97 from 2001-2016 since public record’s filings of taxes doesn’t have data on 2017 yet.

Ae you saying that public record and this article is incorrect sir?

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By: Fo Real https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103406 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 01:58:27 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103406 Guaranteed $15k-20k gross in flag sales alone this past season, which wasn’t even a championship season. Add shirts, polos, stickers, etc from all sellers and easily over 100k last year alone. Come up to the North Shore during football season and you will see.

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By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103396 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:01:28 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103396 I just went onto the site. Shirts sell from $10-$15 each. That’s a lot of shirts they need to sell in order to his $100,000 or more sales. BTW, are you talking gross or net sales?

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By: The Watcher https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/lewis-oia-chooses-to-come-up-small/comment-page-2/#comment-103395 Tue, 13 Jun 2017 23:58:51 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=90889#comment-103395 ..oh and you are wrong. When Kahuku wins championships the sales in their local apparel shop hit six figures and an average of 6 or more players get offered D1 scholarships (thats over a million dollars worth of scholarship money). Championships do equal money, money that the ILH is losing out on and thats why the ILH is trying to force change in the system.

Sir, based on the story you provided, there is no evidence that says they make 6 figures ($100,000 or more) when they win a title. It does say, “If that football team doesn’t win the state championship, we have a bad economic year. There’s a difference of $50,000 to $60,000 worth of sales or more without a championship shirt,” co-founder Mary Anne Long says. A championship-winning game in November will drive sales through December and into the new year, even until the next season starts.”

So there is not exact number. For example, without specific data, that could mean when they win they make $60,000-$70,000. And if they lose they make $10,000.

There is no evidence that says when they win gross or net sales exceed $100,000.

This is the only mention of numbers on the article you submitted:

1) “Kahuku.org which has made over $1 million in revenues since 2001.” – This just shows how much money they made over the past 15-16 years. Nothing here suggest they make $100,000 a year when they win.

2) “The Red Raiders repeated as state football champions in 2012 and that was the store’s most successful year: It paid the school $34,000 of its profits.” – Nothing here suggest they made over $100,000, even when they won in 2012, their most successful year.

3) “If that football team doesn’t win the state championship, we have a bad economic year. There’s a difference of $50,000 to $60,000 worth of sales or more without a championship shirt.” – Nothing here suggest they make $100,000 when they win a title.

Now I am not saying they are not successful, but I don’t see any evidence that supports your statement of making 6 figures when they win titles, or how any of us are incorrect.

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