Comments on: Kana Loa Kaluna’s big night is a dream come true https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:03:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: 1978 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-136005 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:03:18 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-136005 From the outside looking in. I agree with both sides talent and coaching does makes a difference. In all fairness this year Kahuku won the ship because of coaching. Sometimes the community gets too much say in the high school sports teams. You guys finally let Coach Carvalho do what was needed to put Kahuku in a better place. Only if they let Carvalho do his thing when Soljay Maiava was there it would have been a good thing. Kahuku missed out on Mutiple exceptional QBs Soljay Maiava, Blaine Hipa, Tiger Adolpho. So in other words this could have been done awhile a go if they just let the coaches coach. IMO.

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By: Pakelika https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135752 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 22:53:33 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135752 Shux appears to be making the same mistake as mj, believing an unsubstantiated claim or rumor without making any effort to disprove and falsify it. Especially if the claim would-at least to their uncritical way of thinking-explain an outcome they disapprove of and would discredit someone they don’t approve of or like. Whether the theory is originally conceived in the mind of the believer or is received in a second hand manner, if the believer-or potential believer-would first attempt to falsify the theory by trying to disprove it with multiple attempts, and then fails even with multiple attempts to disprove it, then the theory could at least be said to have survived multiple attempts to disprove it, and appears to be true, unless it can be indisputably and conclusively proved with incontrovertible evidence. But these believers in the theory that ILH schools-one in particular-will make a student repeat a grade level in an effort to produce a superior and dominant player for the purpose of enhancing their team’s chances of success and winning championships never offer any evidence that at least could be examined with any degree of analytical rigor. So unless and until any credible reasonable suspicion or evidence that could be examined is presented, any and all talk of an unfair competitive advantage by the ILH schools, especially in the past, is not to be seriously regarded.

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By: ILoveHawaii https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135745 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:58:48 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135745 This years win was due to having the better bullets.
Plain and simple.

If a kid played in a game, that means he met the age requirements.
So whats the problem?

Btw, has anyone mentioned PED use at the high school level?
Just throwing it out there.

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By: SHUX https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135740 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 11:03:53 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135740 why can’t D1 and D2 teams compete with the open division? Why can’t NAIA, division 2, and Division 3 compete with division 1A? Why couldn’t Lee win when he went to Kalani before going back to St Louis?? why does Kahuku continue to win year after year with different coaches at the helm? I believe the answer is ATHLETE’S!!! Not coaching…..If there is any argument about this you must not know football or Sports in general

As for the nineteen-year-old theory it makes a world of difference all those years that we lost to Saint Louis in the prep Bowl and states let us bring back just a “FEW/COUPLE/HANDFUL” of our key players for the next year when they’re 19 years old, let’s see how that works out, they were barely beating us with the kids we had….. imagine we bring back some of our seniors every year to play another season…..we would never lose…… every year would look like this past one…..MERCY RULE

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By: Pakelika https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135733 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 05:08:01 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135733 When mjthegoat99 incorrectly states that George Ornellas’s 8th grade year was in 1992, it can’t help but seriously undermine mj’s credibility and accuracy in anything mj says. George Ornellas’s (please take note of the correct spelling of George’s family name) 8th grade year was in 1990-19991. In the 1992 season, George was a 10th grade first year member of the Saint Louis varsity football team, go check the sports pages of the Star-Bulletin or the Advertiser for 1992 for confirmation of that. I clearly recall George returning the second half kickoff for the first touchdown of the 1992 Prep Bowl against Waianae. Furthermore, family ties to Kalaepohaku was the “recruiter” for George-his father played for Cal Lee in 1972, Cal’s first season as a head coach there, and George has other family members who preceded him at Saint Louis. George graduated from Saint Louis in 1995, check the Star-Bulletin or Advertiser for their coverage of the 1994 Prep Bowl to confirm that the ‘94 season and Prep Bowl were the final season and game he played as a member of the Saint Louis varsity. If mj were correct, George would have been a Senior in the ‘95 or ‘96 season (mj incorrectly said that George’s 8th grade year was in ’92, but school years overlap calendar years so it is not clear whether mj meant ‘91-‘92 or ‘92-‘93) and graduated in 1996 or 1997, but none of that is true. mj’s claims about recruiting are therefore very suspect, at best, and probably wrong. mj probably believes unsubstantiated claims or rumors concerning ILH recruiting and very willingly accepts them as truth without any effort to attempt to falsify them, just as mj probably did not check to find out what years encompassed George’s 8th grade year.It is silly to think that high school coaches spend time and effort to recruit players like collegiate coaches do, especially considering the relatively low compensation that high school coaches receive. Most, if not all, have full time jobs outside of school and football, and have not the time to recruit like college coaches. Saban is quite capable of being a winner in the NFL, his time as Dolphins head coach was too brief to conclude that he could not win as a head coach in the NFL. Even Hall of Fame coach Bill Walsh was thought to be a failure as a head coach after 2 full seasons as 49ers head coach, suffering losing seasons, 2-14 and 6-10, in both. So while mj is most certainly entitled to his own opinions, that right does not extend to the facts of any matter.

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By: mjthegoat99 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135729 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 03:56:22 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135729 Pakekila explain to me the quantum particle!

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By: Pakelika https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135726 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 03:34:30 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135726 When mjthegoat99 incorrectly states that George Ornellas’s 8th grade year was in 1992, it can’t help but seriously undermine mj’s credibility and accuracy in anything mj says. George Ornellas’s (please take note of the correct spelling of George’s family name) 8th grade year was in 1990-19991. In the 1992 season, George was a 10th grade first year member of the Saint Louis varsity football team, go check the sports pages of the Star-Bulletin or the Advertiser for 1992 for confirmation of that. I clearly recall George returning the second half kickoff for the first touchdown of the 1992 Prep Bowl against Waianae. Furthermore, family ties to Kalaepohaku was the “recruiter” for George-his father played for Cal Lee in 1972, Cal’s first season as a head coach there, and George has other family members who preceded him at Saint Louis. George graduated from Saint Louis in 1995, check the Star-Bulletin or Advertiser for their coverage of the 1994 Prep Bowl to confirm that the ‘94 season and Prep Bowl were the final season and game he played as a member of the Saint Louis varsity. If mj were correct, George would have been a Senior in the ‘95 or ‘96 season (mj incorrectly said that George’s 8th grade year was in ’92, but school years overlap calendar years so it is not clear whether mj meant ‘91-‘92 or ‘92-‘93) and graduated in 1996 or 1997, but none of that is true. mj’s claims about recruiting are therefore very suspect, at best, and probably wrong. mj probably believes unsubstantiated claims or rumors and very willingly accepts them as truth without any effort to attempt to falsify them. It is silly to think that high school coaches spend time and effort to recruit players like collegiate coaches do, especially considering the relatively low compensation that high school coaches receive. Most, if not all, have full time jobs outside of school and football. Saban is quite capable of being a winner in the NFL, his time as Dolphins head coach was too brief to conclude that he could not win as a head coach in the NFL. Even Hall of Fame coach Bill Walsh was thought to be a failure as a head coach after 2 full seasons as 49ers head coach, suffering losing seasons, 2-14 and 6-10, in both.

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By: 88 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135723 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 00:03:15 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135723 Uso check your roster again. One of those kids was playing in 2016. And majority of the stars on that 2016 team were in the 6th grade with those kids you said we loss in 2015. Like I said earlier, you can play as long as you don’t turn 19 during the season. Take your time and do some research before you come on here and spit nonsense… Anyways , MERCY RULE baby! Faka cheehooo!

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By: mjthegoat99 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135722 Sun, 26 Dec 2021 23:42:00 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135722 2015 Kahuku lost that killer defense (Anae,Gilman,Kaniho,Atuaia etc.), Imagine if those players were held back and played again in 2016, Kahuku would have repeated despite Tua (who was held back) and those faulty coaching decisions you talk about.

Athletes make the coaches job easier. You got to look at the bigger picture. A coaches ability to recruit is greater then his knowledge of the x’s and 0’s. Case and point Siuaki Livai.

The real coaching that develops the kids IQ and physical dominance is done in pop-warner and the off seasons. Why do you think Cal likes to wait till intermediate and then cherry pick the cream of the crop kids out of the various pop-warner programs state wide? He is getting them already developed and mentally capable of executing the plays. Easy to coach and win like that.

STL coaches from Laie are eyeing the Laie park pop-warner program every year trying to get the best kids transfered to STL with the sales pitch of ‘better coaching”, cmon its all a scam and selfish gratification of the STL alumni, they cannot handle losing to public schools. Dont tell yourself that story.

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By: 88 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kana-loa-kalunas-big-night-is-a-dream-come-true/comment-page-1/#comment-135719 Sun, 26 Dec 2021 22:06:40 +0000 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=115631#comment-135719 No not blinded just calling it like it is. We could of 3peated if not for some terrible decisions by our Coaches..

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