Comments on: Kahuku’s dynamic D finishes a win short https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:59:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: TheHeartlessPrick https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86520 Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:59:32 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86520 @fixyoface

Ending result doesn’t change. STL wins, Kahuku loses. Ride the high horse when you win but be able to eat the mud when you lose.

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By: fixyoface https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86397 Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:51:05 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86397 @TheHeartlessPrick
“No matter what analogy or example.you use about the “Enemy Of The State” situation. As coaches & peers to kids nobody teaches them to break rules. I know you Kahuku people have a hard time with reading & writing but technically (using your speeding example) if you go 1 mph over a speed limit you are speeding. Weather the discretion of who penalizes you let’s you go or not is out of the control of the people breaking the rules. If breaking rules & saying its ok is what they teaching than I think that’s the wrong message to teach kids.”

Funny how you want to insult Kahuku people about having a hard time reading and writing when you are struggling to comprehend my basic post. You choose to ignore what it is truly saying and feel the need to add your own spin on it, which is completely different and false. The post is about accepting responsibility but at the same time asking for a fair punishment. It should have been clear but apparently you read and comprehend what you want to believe.

Yes the person breaking the rules cannot fully control the punishment being given, however it is common practice that at the very least you can plead your case. This is why we have court rooms, hearings, INTENT matters just as much if not more than the actual rule being broken. I would think this is common sense.

But apparently to you accepting responsibility but seeking fair punishment/ruling = Teaching kids to break rules. Seriously?

According to your logic
Going over 1mph and 50 mph should have the same fine
Kid stealing stickers and Armed Robbery should have the same sentence.
Man Slaughter and Mass killing spree should both have the death penalty.

You broke the rule you get punished, circumstances/intent do not matter, it’s your stupid fault anyway for not following it, Rules are Rules. Again, are you serious?

“As for being ignorant or “gesture of ignorance”. The best way to explain this is when your pride takes over your humbleness you start to do stupid stuff. Some you may be aware of & some you’re just too caught up with the success or hype that stupidity & being accountable for actions is not a concern. So when people are going on FB live talking trash about Kahuku Football or any source of social media. You are exposing yourself to everyone.”

I get that it may seem like we are a little too much or too spirited. I think a lot of it is taken in the wrong way. I mean people were still getting upset at us in the parking lot because some were still beeping their horns even though we lost.

Going on FB Live saying “We’re taking Over”…. Again I think you take it the wrong way. When we went to Gorman, yes people said “We’re taking over Vegas…..We’re painting the town Red” All it really means is a lot of us came to support our kids. People came in from Hawaii, Cali, Vegas, Utah to come support them. It’s all in good spirits and people were excited.

Now if it feels like we are throwing up all over everybody with too much videos too many comments, whatever the case that’s understandable. I also understand we have bone head supporters that can put negative things out there which isn’t ok. At the same time I think some get upset at one small thing, then any little thing we do after that whether good or bad upsets them. I mean some of you guys literally booed us while we sang our Alma Mater during Pre-Game lol

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By: Pun Alum 95 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86358 Fri, 25 Nov 2016 00:48:53 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86358 I didn’t know all that backlash happened with Reggie till reading your post. But that’s small town U.S.A for you where football reigns supreme….

No offense sir, but there is never an excuse for any kind of violence or the threat to possibly do bodily harm. This is very saddening. We, (all of us) need to realize that football, music, art, dance, are all extracurricular activities that the children use as a means to have fun, work towards a goal, learn, improve character, and build healthy friendships. It’s unfortunate that many people in the community, often parents, and people on this blog forgets that. It seems the kids and football is for the adults instead of being for the kids. It’s appalling what is written by a select few here. I never thought a blog would wind down to being ruined by a few who are sexual innuendos, swear, threaten, and taunt.

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By: TheHeartlessPrick https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86304 Thu, 24 Nov 2016 09:27:08 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86304 @fixyoface

No matter what analogy or example.you use about the “Enemy Of The State” situation. As coaches & peers to kids nobody teaches them to break rules. I know you Kahuku people have a hard time with reading & writing but technically (using your speeding example) if you go 1 mph over a speed limit you are speeding. Weather the discretion of who penalizes you let’s you go or not is out of the control of the people breaking the rules. If breaking rules & saying its ok is what they teaching than I think that’s the wrong message to teach kids.
As for being ignorant or “gesture of ignorance”. The best way to explain this is when your pride takes over your humbleness you start to do stupid stuff. Some you may be aware of & some you’re just too caught up with the success or hype that stupidity & being accountable for actions is not a concern. So when people are going on FB live talking trash about Kahuku Football or any source of social media. You are exposing yourself to everyone.

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By: fixyoface https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86250 Thu, 24 Nov 2016 00:32:08 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86250 @Heartlessprick
“You RR Fans draw attention to yourselves pushing your weight around, you should expect those things to happen.”

In what way have we “pushed our weight around”. I sincerely would like to know.

” When St Louis had their run of championships I can recall the fans, players & students not being as arrogant publicly as RR in this day & age.”

Actually it has been pretty much the same, it’s just now their is social media. The kids in this day & age are the kids/grand kids of those not so arrogant fans/players of old.

“But really, who has control of what happens outside of the game? It ain’t HPW that has control or can help the situation.”

I’m not saying you or HPW can control it, just like I can’t control Kahuku trolls on here. But dismissing it or making light of it (i.e stop being cry babies) is something you can control.

“Is that really the excuse for being the “Enemy Of The State”? Because you broke the rules & was forced to forfeit because of a ineligible player. You blame the “higher ups” because your team broke the rules? I don’t get this whole situation of labeling yourselves as being “Enemy Of The State” for your own stupidity. It doesn’t matter if he played or not, rules are rules you break them you suffer.”

Yes we did break them and we did pay for it. We were just asking to look at it as a case by case basis, instead of a blanket rule. If I went 1 mph over the speed limit, I do not want to pay the same fine as someone who went 50 mph over the speed limit. We both broke the exact same rule, should we pay the same fine? Different penalty’s depending on severity of the infraction,that’s all we wanted. Enemy of The State is an expression, you know that.

“All your hype that you claim that all your RR Fans don’t do is all on HPW. Live videos on Facebook of people talking shit about how Kahuku is going to walk through states. Your “in house practice” being on FB live saying the RR Nation is here to take over. All these small gestures of ignorance is what hypes Kahuku to be on everyone’s shit list. Maybe that’s why you have all these public incidents. You guys bring it upon yourselves.”

As stated earlier as far as trolls, I cannot control them but I also don’t condone it either. You all know that the trolls on here don’t reflect the entire fan base (obviously they don’t help the perception). Ask everyone about the whole FB thing, it was suppose to be in house. They asked to keep it in house. Again you can’t control thousands of people, some leaked it out and weren’t suppose to. Others used FB Live because did you see all the fans we had? Not all of them can make the practice, so it was posted in Code Red.

What Gestures of ignorance? Everyone last year claimed St. Louis would walk through Kahuku, especially after they dominated Mililani. Everyone one claimed were one dimensional / Cave man offense / Overrated Defense / Weak Schedule. We hear this EVERY year. Then what happened? So we were ignorant this year with our small gestures, and you were ignorant last year?

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By: TheHeartlessPrick https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86242 Wed, 23 Nov 2016 23:30:01 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86242 Jeezy33 November 23, 2016 at 11:21 am
fixyoface: people don’t care about kahuku as much as you think they do. Relax. The world doesn’t revolve around la’ie.
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That’s the problem with 99% of the RR support group. They think the whole state is against them & spit on everyone when their at the top. Look at them, they shit the bed in the championship game & use every excuse outside of the actual game to try & validate their insecurity.
These RR supporters crack me up. All living through high school kids when they couldn’t live it themselves when they had the chance. Hell half of these RR people are even athletes, all spectators. And the few that were state champs & athletes are still living in their glory days. Get over it!

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By: Jeezy33 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-2/#comment-86234 Wed, 23 Nov 2016 21:21:38 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86234 fixyoface: people don’t care about kahuku as much as you think they do. Relax. The world doesn’t revolve around la’ie.

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By: fixyoface https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-1/#comment-86233 Wed, 23 Nov 2016 21:09:45 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86233 @Education First
“Every school has supportive and not supportive fans. I do recall my friend Reggie Torres telling me about parents waiting for him by his car during his first year “threatening” him since he was trying to raise the academic standards for the football players.

I don’t know about you, but threatening to do bodily harm is much worse than burning apparel, making inappropriate shirts, or jumping on a bandwagon. Parents swarmed him and he had to be escorted to leave.

I am pretty confident you know this is a fact. Like I said, there are good and bad supporters everywhere. Kahuku is no different.”

I am aware of it it is/was a shame. He was ousted unfairly. What makes this community great is also what can make it ugly at the same time. Some people are too passionate and can be too much. I ain’t afraid to admit that, and those parents should be ashamed of themselves. When we have a losing season class can sadly go out the window and call for the coaches head. I love coach Torres.

With that said that doesn’t diminish or lighten what St. Louis Alum did. You’re making it sound as if it’s fine to do something wrong as long as it’s not worse than what another person did. Accepting that as the norm (There are good/bad supporters) doesn’t make it ok for people to do those things.

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By: TheHeartlessPrick https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-1/#comment-86231 Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:59:18 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86231 @Fixyoface
Ok…..so what about all the other incidences that really did happen, and others I haven’t even mentioned? You think it’s ok to burn another schools apparel? Rip off flags from peoples cars? Mock and make negative comments to a family walking with children who wear Red Raider cloths? All because we cheer really loud and our crowds our big? Is going all out in supporting our kids really that bad? Now trolls will say stop being a cry baby…. No being a cry baby is complaining about losing because of the referee’s (yes there are Kahuku supporters being cry babies about the refs), but all those things that I mentioned and more that are happening outside of the game is uncalled for and people need more respect and class then that.

If you knew where “Enemy of The State” actually came from, it had nothing to do with all the other schools and community’s. It was towards the OIA higher ups in 2010 where we had to forfeit because we had a 5th year senior, who never played football before, was third string player, play in every game because we were routing every team we played. We tried to fight the ruling, took it to court and lost. That is where “Enemy of The State” started.

Also what hype did we work up on social media? Trying to coordinate cheers and a haka? We do that for our kids…. not to look cool. In fact nobody was suppose to see it at all and it was suppose to stay in house, but it got leaked. Outside of that I don’t know what other social media hype are talking about.
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If you’re looking for validation or someone to feel sorry about your Kahuku fan group I think I can speak for majority of the people on here reading your comment. NOBODY CARES. You RR Fans draw attention to yourselves pushing your weight around, you should expect those things to happen. When St Louis had their run of championships I can recall the fans, players & students not being as arrogant publicly as RR in this day & age. But really, who has control of what happens outside of the game? It ain’t HPW that has control or can help the situation.
“Enemy Of The State” was labeled because Kahuku was forced to forfeit in 2010 for having a 5th year senior on the team. Is that really the excuse for being the “Enemy Of The State”? Because you broke the rules & was forced to forfeit because of a ineligible player. You blame the “higher ups” because your team broke the rules? I don’t get this whole situation of labeling yourselves as being “Enemy Of The State” for your own stupidity. It doesn’t matter if he played or not, rules are rules you break them you suffer.
All your hype that you claim that all your RR Fans don’t do is all on HPW. Live videos on Facebook of people talking shit about how Kahuku is going to walk through states. Your “in house practice” being on FB live saying the RR Nation is here to take over. All these small gestures of ignorance is what hypes Kahuku to be on everyone’s shit list. Maybe that’s why you have all these public incidents. You guys bring it upon yourselves.

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By: Alpha https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/kahukus-dynamic-d-finishes-a-win-short/comment-page-1/#comment-86227 Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:42:01 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=80160#comment-86227 @EducationFirst agreed bandwagon support everywhere, but my comment was more towards the possible perpetrators of the incidences @fixyoface brought up. As for the Reggie Torres incident you brought up.
“Every school has supportive and not supportive fans. I do recall my friend Reggie Torres telling me about parents waiting for him by his car during his first year “threatening” him since he was trying to raise the academic standards for the football players.

I don’t know about you, but threatening to do bodily harm is much worse than burning apparel, making inappropriate shirts, or jumping on a bandwagon. Parents swarmed him and he had to be escorted to leave.

I am pretty confident you know this is a fact. Like I said, there are good and bad supporters everywhere. Kahuku is no different.”

I didn’t know all that backlash happened with Reggie till reading your post. But that’s small town U.S.A for you where football reigns supreme….

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