Comments on: ILH underclassmen ineligible for showcase

By: Manley

Manley — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:39:40 +0000

Just add an asterisk besides St Louis name for 2016. Just like 2010. That way make a category for ** . Then ( pending rule violations). One thing for sure, HHSAA will look at ILH when promoting a “fair” system like the State revamp playoffs.

By: AllHail

AllHail — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 04:21:15 +0000

RPaahana The rule is available with a google search. It’s clear, in the ILH athletics handbook under exceptions.

1. Participants in football are not allowed outside participation for the entire school year.

The rule is clear, whether it is “good” or “bad” it’s definitely a violation of that rule.

Any reporters out there?

By: RPaahana

RPaahana — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:46:19 +0000

I would love to see how the rule is written. Pop Warner has a similar rule, but it applies only during the season. The intent is to make sure kids don’t play in multiple leagues at the same time. What a kid does in the off season is their business. No other sport limits playing opportunities for athletes. In fact some of them prefer non-school leagues. I know of softball players that chose club teams over school and got to D-1 just the same. That being said pilau for ILH not enforcing their own rule on their own stars. I bet it will come out that some ILH coach has beef with the bowl organizers.

By: AllHail

AllHail — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:35:51 +0000

So what is the ILH penalty for a football player that competes in a non-ILH football event?

If it’s nothing then the current ILH underclasman may as well get out there and play.

If there is a penalty then out with it already instead of letting people talk about the what-ifs of it.

This is where actual reporting comes into play.

By: phILHarmonic

phILHarmonic — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:32:00 +0000

Alpha-
Dang, that kid was a beast at Moanalua. I feel for his family.

In the Old Dayz, it was one on one, no weapons and a handshake after. You take cracks and give cracks.
Now its, make trouble knowing you have your boys to back you up cause the other guys going have their boys and because they have bigger boys or more boys you have to have weapons. Such cowardice, and not really good friends.

I hope the best for the family and that they find justice.

By: phILHarmonic

phILHarmonic — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:15:41 +0000

The OIA lets their underclassmen play.
The ILH does not let their underclassmen play.

Its a league infraction not a statewide rule infraction.

It is at the discretion of the ILH if and how they will penalize St. Louis and if that penalty will affect their eligibility to have played in the state tournament.

I believe these to be the facts thus far.

Maybe the ILH will cut down St. Louis’s scholarships to 30 instead of 60 and restrict their Bowl appearances for 1 year?

If St. Louis is forced to forfeit and Kahuku is crowned Champ, will there be a parade?

A little levity on this breezy Tuesday morning.

By: Alpha

Alpha — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:08:56 +0000

Sending prayers out to the Feliciano Family. I know this doesn’t relate to the article but Stevie was a standout in the JPS (Razorbacks) league, and pretty much Moanalua’s entire offense. Keep fighting young uso. . .

By: Hadafakaya

Hadafakaya — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:50:43 +0000

Break the rules pay the penalty! Applies to EVERYONE, Public or Private Schools!

By: grabum.bythe.puppy.gate

grabum.bythe.puppy.gate — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 03:53:41 +0000

kahukus ineligible player was not about age, he simply entered the 9th grade for one week and flunked back to 8th grade for academic issues. so technically his athletic eligibilty started on day 1 of that year in which he flunked. so his repeat of the 8th grade was his 1st year of eligibility, when he got to 11th grade it was his 4th and last to play sports but no one knew this. so when he got into 12th he decided to play sports for the first time in his life so he walked on to the football team and warmed the bench. the penalty was that he was a 5th year athlete and it was illegal.

the funny thing was that no one knew this except one of his relatives that lives in town and hates kahuku so that relative waited and blew the whistle after kahuku finished their perfect season. what a dick yeah!

By: grabum.bythe.puppy.gate

grabum.bythe.puppy.gate — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 03:38:32 +0000

rules are rules it dont matter how each league does it. for example ilh transfer rules are different then oia transfer rules, if a 9th grader transfer from oia to ilh he will sit next year, if he go oia to oia he can play. the hhsaa dont look at the severity of the rules you break they just want the top teams from each league based on their league placements so if stl has to vacate their wins and end up 3rd in the ilh then the hhsaa would have to take that into consideration. the only difference with 2010 kahuku is the timing the issue surfaced. if the oia found out after the 2010 season and kahuku won the state title i would expect their oia and state title to be forfeited.