Comments on: HIADA tweaks state football format and adds instant replay https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Thu, 13 Jun 2019 05:04:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: notes https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122807 Thu, 13 Jun 2019 05:04:17 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122807 when i talk about profits, i’m talking about way more than football tickets and merch. i’m talking about how the ILH “schools” use their football success in order to keep driving enrollment into their schools. football has a trickle down effect on all aspects of the ILH campuses and it’s in the ILHs interest to keep recruiting and poaching players and destroy the competitive balance of high school football.

the OIA keeping 80% of the revenue and gate receipts or whatever garbage bone they threw at us to keep them in states is just pennies to them

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By: One Team Fan https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122773 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:14:31 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122773 Jayme Wight. Who has Iolani recruited on their current football team? They have less than 40 kids on their roster and no one only 1 starter over 200lbs? Their O line averages 165lbs and D line ain’t any bigger. Can you name these “recruits” to verify your claim? I think Coach Wendell just whips a bunch of math geeks into shape and teaches them to execute plays then run like hell for fear of getting cracked. Its a solid program but they went to Div 1 bc they can’t play STL, Punahou, Kamehameha 2 times each every season without sustaining a bunch of injuries. Don’t confuse them with Mililani, Kahuku or Campbell.

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By: IRC 1099 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122772 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 08:56:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122772 Notes: I understand your point that the OIA shouldn’t compete with the ILH… i respectfully disagree but what profits are you referring to in post #19? Doesn’t the current format allocate 80% of the ticket sales to the OIA and 20% to the ILH? Last year virtually of all inter league games were played at OIA venues (except the Aloha Stadium contests) thus the OIA retains 100% of all concession sales?

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By: ILH https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122761 Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:28:56 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122761 First off,

Notes- How did Kahuku put their foot down? genuinely curious about that.

Observation- I get it now. Current way, only your team is screwed. Your way, another team gets screwed.

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By: notes https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122750 Sun, 09 Jun 2019 17:57:22 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122750 this is what happens when you try to include these “schools” that are really just fronts for a football factory. Instead of trying to appease the ILH with their recruiting and then their demands for more state tourney births, maybe the OIA should finally put their foot down like kahuku did and say enough is enough! our kids are more important than your profits! kick out the ILH and let the REAL high school teams play

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By: All schools should be eligible https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122743 Sun, 09 Jun 2019 03:31:24 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122743 I agree with “Observation”…

Bottom line IMO, ILH leadership need to take responsibility and make this situation work for all member schools. Schools should have the right to declare or request to participate in a particular division, but by no means does that constitute an automatic designation to that division. So in this case, ILH leadership should first ask Damien or Iolani if any of them would volunteer to step down to division 2. If no volunteers, then they shall be advised that a decision will be made by the ILH leadership to select one of them to play down the upcoming season.

In other words… c’mon ILH leadership, put on your grown up underwears and make the call!

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By: Observation https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122731 Sat, 08 Jun 2019 02:09:05 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122731 @ILH,
I’m not sure if you understood what I wrote prior… Pac5 could not change their designation to D1 based on the two year agreement between the OIA and ILH. Last year was year one of that agreement. The agreement was that there would be ILH and OIA representation in each division. If Pac5 moves up, then there is no ILH representation in D2. This was not Pac5 to negotiate or figure, it was something to be done at a level higher than an individual program.

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By: ILH https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122729 Sat, 08 Jun 2019 01:10:07 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122729 Why didnt the Pac change their designation to D1?
Now the league has to intervene and figure out how to comply with the agreement or scrap it.

If you and whoever knew this was coming down the pipe, how come no one on Pac’s end did anything during that time? Where was the representation of your AD? or AD’s?

I dont need you to change your stance.
You bring nothing to the table but being a victim.
Which you are entitled to be.

I still havent heard any suggestions, btw.

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By: Observation https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122727 Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:23:42 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122727 @ILH,

“And what do you mean left it up to Pac 5 to figure things out for themselves?? What can they do?”

That was exactly what was conveyed by ILH to Pac5, that this was something that Pac5 had to somehow figure out themselves. As If Pac5 can make their own schedule or figure out how they will be able to compete beyond the regular season, if they were able to put together a winning season (yes a big if, but still an opportunity). If that does not in and of itself show a lack fo leadership, than I don’t know what else I can say. So, you are correct, I don’t agree with your assumption that this was simply about an unfortunate circumstance.

It was known well before the end of last academic year the fate of St. Francis school. And, no one could have figured this out in all that time? Now, all of the sudden it is assumed that Pac5 is supposed to figure this out – yes that what was given from leadership.

If you know something different in defense of the ILH leadership, I would be willing to change my stance.

I don’t know why ILH did not ask I’olani, I just know it was proposed to Damien. I also don’t know why Kamehameha initially agreed to drop down to DI, but that is what was conveyed.

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By: ILH https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hiada-tweaks-state-football-format-and-adds-instant-replay/comment-page-1/#comment-122726 Fri, 07 Jun 2019 22:55:55 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=106288#comment-122726 Observation-

I did read your last post. No need preach, I feel the same way. Funny that you have to write it though, for everyone to see.

You no agree with the leadership, I dont agree with you. There we go. We both have the right to criticize.

What would you tell Damien? or negotiate as you say.
Why not Iolani?
And what do you mean left it up to Pac 5 to figure things out for themselves?? What can they do?

Somehow, I feel that this was more of a lack of options, least amount of harm situation. Its truly unfortunate for Kip and the boys. I hope there is a play-in game.

On another note, why is Kamehameha wanting to go down??

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