Comments on: Crusaders marching forward https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:53:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31434 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:53:41 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31434 In reply to Jimmy Clausen.

First, about Waianae. They normally scrimmage ‘Iolani in preseason, and during Kennedy Tulimaseali‘i’s years, their linemen often told me that the scrimmage was tough. That ‘Iolani was much smaller, but very precise and skilled. That’s coming from the Waianae players. Your contention that Waianae was smaller than ‘Iolani for one season is quite amusing. What about all the years before 2010 and since?

Also, you contend that there’s a D-II team that is begging to duck D-I teams. That would not be ‘Iolani. They’re not asking for the schedule revision in the ILH that would segregate D-I teams from D-II in the regular-season format.

Also, your contention that ‘Iolani offers financial aid on the same level as Punahou is preposterous. Punahou is roughly twice the size of ‘Iolani. Anyone who has watched these two programs in the past 10 years has seen a clear intention on Punahou’s part to bring in elite athletes and challenge for state championships. Nothing wrong with this. But comparing what Punahou and the rest of the state does, really…

There is no argument against a quality D-II program with the ability to compete against D-I programs whether it is football, volleyball, baseball, basketball, etc. — on a one-game basis.

Asking/forcing D-II football programs to go up against D-I programs on a weekly basis is ludicrous and, in a worst-case scenario, negligent in terms of safety and health.

Jimmy Clausen, your hatred of a certain D-II program is clear. As I’ve noted before, there should be three tiers for high school football in Hawaii. This conversation is tedious, mundane and done unless you can bring logic into the equation. You’re straying from the topic, comparing Waianae to ‘Iolani… stick to it, “Jimmy.”

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By: Jimmy Clausen https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31432 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:49:22 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31432 In response to Paul, three words: 2010 Waianae Seariders. Look at their roster that year. They were smaller than Iolani is MOST YEARS and STILL PLAYED a D1 schedule that including two games against Mililani, Leilehua, and St. Louis, not to mention starting the season against Kahuku. Where Iolani and Coach Look would cry, whine, and make excuses begging to duck those kind of teams, Matsumoto and Waianae toughed it out and were within a game of being state champs. Iolani is NOT a small team and offers kids millions in financial aid as well. I guess that Waianae team should’ve been a middle-tier team, too, since Kahuku, Mililani, and St. Louis dwarfed them in size. Has Matsumoto, when Waianae’s fielded smaller teams, ever begged to duck Mililani and Kahuku?

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31261 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:11:08 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31261 In reply to Jimmy Clausen.

Jimmy, I’m way too old to be brainwashed, among other things.
Let’s say this: You want ‘Iolani in the same division with A) a team that generously offers MILLIONS of dollars in financial aid to students (including athletes), and B) an institution that is owned and operated by one of the greatest, most humongous conglomerates (Bishop Estate) in America.
Have you really seen ‘Iolani the past two years? The straight truth is that there are three tiers of football in high school football here. ‘Iolani and a lot of quality programs would belong in the middle one. Until then, your argument is a little light. I’m certain the D-I football programs in the ILH would love to lasso ‘Iolani into D-I to create a deeper in-league schedule. But it appears to me that there’s growing frustration within the league with the haves pushing their weight around. I don’t see ‘Iolani caving in to anyone. Nor should they.

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By: Jimmy Clausen https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31214 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:13:01 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31214 Also, Iolani is looking as big as they were when Igber and Mateaki played for them.

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By: Jimmy Clausen https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31213 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:04:59 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31213 And Paul, you ought to know that if Iolani wants to keep on playing at the D2 level, they NEED to make a deal with the rest of the state: stop playing at the D2 level and recruiting statewide or keep on recruiting and play D1. Can’t have it both ways. Do you agree that Iolani shouldn’t have it both ways, Paul?

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By: Jimmy Clausen https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/crusaders-marching-forward/comment-page-1/#comment-31212 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:03:00 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=27901#comment-31212 Is Coach Look brainwashing you to agree with him Paul? Regardless of those losses, Iolani DOES NOT belong in D2. Period. Should Castle play D2 because they’ve been blasted by Kahuku and Farrington the last couple of years WORSE than Iolani has been by Pun, KS, and SL? Should Punahou have been a D2 team in the early 2000s when they were routinely losing games against St. Louis and Kamehameha by scores of 34-7 or 35-7 (let me give you the results of their games against KS and SL in 2002: 50-7, 49-0, 21-9, and 27-9)? Should Waianae have been an OIA White team the year they played St. Louis in the finals (blasted by by St. Louis twice and Kahuku, 27-7) and had only 15 guys over 200 lbs (less than Iolani has had the past couple of years)? And my favorite question: should Iolani have been a D2 team when Donny Mateaki, Uriah Moenoa, Willy Kava, and Joe Igber were Raiders? Iolani BEAT Kamehameha and Punahou routinely when they were there and gave St. Louis tough games. I bet Look was STILL using the size and depth EXCUSES. Bottom line: show some balls, play the best, and don’t whine about it. Losing badly against KS, SL, and Punahou does not give you the right to cry about rumors about moving up. Iolani also gives at least one of those teams a scare every year, so don’t make it sound like KS, SL, and Punahou are routinely blasting you in EVERY GAME. If Dan Matsumoto were coaching Iolani, they wouldn’t be a D2 team. Matsumoto never cries and makes excuses about being too small or lacking depth. He lets his team take their lumps against the Kahukus, Mililanis, Leilehuas, and whatever ILH D1 team he plays and lets his team grow because of it. Waianae’s 2010 team had more injuries than any of Iolani’s past 15 teams did as well, so Iolani can’t cry about safety when playing Punahou, SL, and KS either.

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