Comments on: Altercation, police presence led to Kaiser decision https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:11:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Kaiser Wilhelm II https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109696 Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:11:42 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109696 Why you mad, bro?

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By: bambabu https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109390 Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:24:07 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109390 Praise The Lord!!!! September 21, 2017 8:15 am
Martinez is a a man of FAITH…everyone needs Jesus in their life… and for him to preech this to the kids is awesome. Bc football is just a sport…

WRONG!!!! Kaiser is a public school open to all. He should not be preaching to anybody about his faith under his wings. If he wants this, he should be coaching one of our private schools where faith is the basis of their school.

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By: Henry jow https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109278 Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:42:47 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109278 For I know that these parents tried to get thru to them and coach but Martinez would not talk to parents yes they could have done it calmly but I guess that frustration finally blew up as I know there were no hands put on the coach if they were hands put on the couch that parent or parents would have been arrested it seems the parent didn’t go there to harm to coach or harm anybody but to get through to the coach of what he’s doing preaching Christianity on the children they were uncomfortable so I don’t blame the parents for their not being a game or stopping to homecoming I blame the coach and I blame the school communication is important between parents and the school and coaches unfortunately I got out of hand but I don’t think these parents went there to harm anybody they just went there to justification of why their son got kicked off the team but coach Martinez would not look the parent in the eye as I heard from one of the boys coach Martinez said that the parent had pushed him one of the boys that were there said that there was no hands put on Martinez there was no shoving there was no pushing the only hands that will put on a person is when the security guard came and put his hands on the wife and that’s when the other parent went even more crazy he wanted to press charges against the security guy who put his hands on his wife you guys have all false information yes they could have gone there calmly as I said before and it did get out of hand don’t blame these parents don’t blame the child blame the coach blame the school for having no communication whatsoever these parents had all the right to protect their child and find out what was going on the field as I’ve heard coach Martinez does not treat these kids well on the field so he had it coming to him but thank God no one was hurt

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By: Education First https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109264 Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:09:58 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109264 No one should EVER lay a hand in anger over something as trivial as playing time, difference in philosophy, etc., especially in front of players. What a horrible example these parents are for their children. I practice tai chi at Aala Park which centers the mind and body and gives one inner peace. I suggest some of these adults do the same.

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By: Nano https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109257 Fri, 22 Sep 2017 05:26:17 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109257 As a current varsity coach I am fortunate to have never had any “parent”, threaten me with violence. I wouldn’t wish that upon anyone, in any profession. Let alone one where we donate upwards of 500 hours a year+ depending on sport and off season regimen.

To the angry parents,

I don’t know everything about your situation. I know that religion is something we are told to not initiate as coaches while participating in school function, or on campus. That would be a violation. So yes, if that occurred, “check”, rule broken.

Bad coach, favoritism, unfair punishment, doesn’t encourage and engage in a way that resonates with players, neglects and misallocates time on duty in a way that you and many others DO NOT agree with.. Hell, his own staff doesn’t want to coach with him. The only reason he got his job was through “friend kine action”.

I hear you.

I know we can at least agree that the extremes the coach endured went too far at the end though, right? Ok.

Now to the counterpoint.. There is no counterpoint.

What you as parents are bringing into athletics that I, parent to none, volunteer to community, encourager, friend, disciplinarian, objective converser, part-time mentor and believer in establishing good.. in your child…

What I absolutely fear most, is that I will one day lose my freedom.

It has taken nearly a third of all the years that I have lived to get to where I am now. Sacrifices were made before your child was old enough to do Algebra. Stay with me, just please listen. I’m not here to bash any side.

The landscape that would support your argument, the one that would, “make it right for you”, vastly distorts the road and costs I have absorbed in order to get here. It is one that if enough parental support is garnered, all aspects of my job are at your discretion. Administration with degrees and educational expertise, mute. Coaches with years of experience, doesn’t matter. In this environment we are encroaching on, coaches do not exist. We serve no purpose because we do not have your support. And without that support, you are free to command change on all levels. We are just about there.

Get this coach out!
AD you don’t listen and don’t take action, kapput.
Next coach comes in.

“LOL this guy doesn’t even have 8 assistant coaches. CYA!”

“Whoa you have no idea how bad we had it!!!”

I don’t. I hope that if disservice was done to your sons that they learn from this unfortunate event. I wish that you can show them how to be strong when anger, disgust, betrayal, disbelief surge in your veins. How beautiful, “grace”, can be when you escape chaos. If you were truly wronged, I am sorry a coach failed you.

Why do you parents believe that he wanted so badly to derail the varsity program?

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By: Significance https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109253 Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:21:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109253 It just doesn’t matter!

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By: Peter G https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109252 Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:12:30 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109252 Parents, set the example for your kids. There will be harder lessons in life for them to learn.

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By: Former OIA Insider https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109250 Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:26:41 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109250 I think athletics is not a part of Mr. Mew’s priorities. That is what happens when an elementary or middle school principal gets a high school principal job. There are too many components of a high school that don’t exist at the lower levels. The administration should’ve handled this earlier. The “new AD” is a puppet of the administration, specifically Dana Takahara-Dias. That seems to be the newest thing in hawaii high schools, select the former alumni as the AD that has no knowledge or experience but then academic administrators micro manage athletics. The last 2 ADs fall into this category (Kaiser and Waianae). I would like to think that the AD would’ve had many conversations with the coach and decided or mandated changes in perspectives. No doubt the parents shouldn’t have threatened Martinez. It is hard though when the VP selected coaches and a new AD has to work with them. But the question is has the AD worked with coach Martinez? It does amaze me how the AD has not been visible or said anything about the low numbers, forfeits, etc before the altercation. Why did Kaiser need a DOE spokesperson for the handling of the football team from back in July? Must be nice to get AD pay, but have others do “your job” for you.

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By: KHS85 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109243 Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:32:10 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109243 Sorry , But Praise the Lord! That’s the wrong approach. Martinez may have done well at Moanalua. But somewhere along the lines he’s changed. Cannot bring religion into football. It needs to be neutral. There are many religions out there and all must be respected. Somewhere along the lines of coaching, we forgot that we shape and build men and women to be good people in the world. Back in the day, all players were involved in the game plan. Some schools I watch still follow that motto. If you want to build a solid program , you have to include non starters as well or your future prospects will dwindle. I see to many teams falter after one guy gets hurt. Then the coaches expect the next man up to be the savior and the 2 nd. String player never even played a down in a game. We focus to much on the wins and lost colum. A true program is one that have a good foundation to build off. Winning as with life comes when you are grounded and centered. We have to empower the players you coach and make them
Believe they can. Most teenagers really need confidence and support. At this age they are struggling to find a identity. You coach the kids and not the parents. As for parents, love and support your program. I am a formal player for Kaiser and graduated in 1985. I can say I have never talked bad about my high school football experience. We talk about having all these qualification to be a coach. It’s great! And all coaches should have some training. But the true and best coaches are the ones with life experiences and are willing to Change and adapt to your players that you have. One way of coaching is not always the right fit for all players. Aloha to all for showing you care. I never did a response like this before , but I feel we are overlooking and thinking to much about how to coach kids. I respect all coaches who give there time to commit and make huge sacrifices. Good Luck to All this Weekend. Remember, you never loose if you love what you are doing. Aloha

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By: Praise The Lord!!!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/altercation-police-presence-led-to-kaiser-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-109241 Thu, 21 Sep 2017 18:15:54 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=93267#comment-109241 Martinez is a a man of FAITH…everyone needs Jesus in their life… and for him to preech this to the kids is awesome. Bc football is just a sport…
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, bit have everlasting life. -John 3:16

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