Comments on: ALL-STATE FOOTBALL: Saint Louis’ Jayden de Laura and Nick Herbig stand out on top https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Thu, 02 Jan 2020 04:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: jon l https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129248 Thu, 02 Jan 2020 04:57:19 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129248 Well stated Joe local! College coaches are watching film and breaking down talent. If a kid has an offer especially D1, they should be All-State no question. It would give this award more credibility.

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By: I WANT IN https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129153 Sun, 29 Dec 2019 01:54:58 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129153 Congratulations to everyone! Most of the selected first team players earned it. However, films, stats, and offers prove Hoohuli should be on first team.

@no hate ILH
FYI, Hoohuli is a true junior. He wasn’t held back.

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By: ILoveHawaii https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129129 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:25:55 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129129 Sorry I meant if Toma stays, there will be a passing game to go along with the HC’s smash mouth running game.

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By: ILoveHawaii https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129128 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:25:06 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129128 Loveonhate-

Great convo bro.
Any updates on whats going on in RRville?
Been hearing rumblings that a former RR HC will be taking over the reins for next year.

I like him and know that his style is about dominance and discipline. And if Toma stays on as the OC there will be a running game to go along with the HC’s smash mouth running game.

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By: FBFan https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129127 Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:22:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129127 Loveonhate,

Debatable for what other programs have also accomplished, not just this year but for the last several years. For instance:

1. Coach Cal at STL. They wrapped up what might be one of the highest nationally ranked teams in state history and during his tenure. Finished season undefeated and capped off a 4-peat. Developed multiple D1 (FBS prospects). That’s very worthy of COY in my opinion.

2. Coach Drummondo at Hilo High. Hilo played in last 3 D1 State Championship games, winning 2 of 3. Finished season 14-0 with highest state ranking in school history. Hilo also won ScoringLive D/ST’s competition 2 of the last 3 seasons as well. That’s very worthy of COY in my opinion.

Not sure how you’d know that COY was unanimous in all polls but if it was that’s laughable, and AGAIN, it’s not a knock on the person who won. But look at what others have accomplished as well and objectively ask yourself if it’s not debatable. Unanimous, smh, C’mon cuz.

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By: Joe local https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129117 Thu, 26 Dec 2019 22:41:44 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129117 There are 6 to 7 College D1 FBS/FCS players who only received Honorable Mention and players with no offers on 1st, 2nd and 3rd team. All State should be selected based on players who have offers to play D1 FBS/FCS as the initial qualifier. They got offers because they are the best and college coaches recognize their talent and accomplishments in the field with film to back it up. Players with no offers should not be on the All State team.

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By: Loveonhate https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129116 Thu, 26 Dec 2019 22:24:06 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129116 Ilovehawaii

Shiiii lol coach doesn’t need any of our opinions to defend himself he’s good as is. But you think he got it bc of articles?
Debatable because the results they produce aren’t supposed to be happening.
I was wrong in a few thing in the earlier comments. I agree with what you feel and where you see it. There are other selections made apart from star advertiser too like Scoringlive and so forth. For coy, coach Dave was unanimous in every poll. Not sure how much of a debate that is

Regardless, I love my raiders
RR4L

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By: ILoveHawaii https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129115 Thu, 26 Dec 2019 19:34:43 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129115 -Loveonhate

You need to go back and read bro. No degrading or discrediting going on.
Did I hit a sore spot? No negative on the Kekahuna kid, which I didnt name earlier, I just feel like Terrell was a better returner.

About the COY. You need to read your stuff over before you submit it.
“The COY deserves to be recognized for what he’s done which was far more in all his years combined than just one season ”
Uh, hello00??? its for his accomplishments for the season, not all the seasons.
Every coach works hard in making winners out of their players,no? How many of them had several articles on HPW about it? How many of them had articles about this being their last year coaching? About players wanting to win this season for their coach who is not coming back?? About the coach deciding that he is returning? No negative on Dave, hes a great guy and does a great job with his players. I simply feel that his receiving COY is debatable.

Name calling. Cmon bro.

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By: HD https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129102 Wed, 25 Dec 2019 18:15:59 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129102 Shut down every DE in the state and in the game against St Thomas Aquinas. DB’s is not legit as well. You got someone with 2 pick 6’s and a great amount of key tackles and hits on the honorable mention while having someone with one pick and minimal tackles and don’t even know what he doing half the time make 2nd team. This is not legit. 🤷🏼‍♂️]]> Without Kalan Ellis on the first team OL this is not legit🤷🏼‍♂️ Shut down every DE in the state and in the game against St Thomas Aquinas.

DB’s is not legit as well. You got someone with 2 pick 6’s and a great amount of key tackles and hits on the honorable mention while having someone with one pick and minimal tackles and don’t even know what he doing half the time make 2nd team. This is not legit. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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By: BangkokJoe https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/all-state-football-saint-louis-jayden-de-laura-and-nick-herbig-stand-out-on-top/comment-page-1/#comment-129101 Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:39:35 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=110313#comment-129101 Selection of the “best” in any sport is difficult, particularly when “politics” is involved. Stats are meaningless without factoring in level of competition. But recognition is always a welcome reward for hard work and dedication. Well done to all competitors, at all levels. It’s a corner stone to the rest of your life.

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