Comments on: Moanalua sweeps OIA East wrestling

By: from the stands

from the stands — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:58:45 +0000

Whatever the criteria, it should be agreed upon and posted before the season starts so kids and coach can decide a plan ahead of time vs be surprised come championships time. If for example the criteria of your record at weight is going to govern over anything else including past head to head, I’m sure it changes what some wrestlers will do during the season. Things like that shouldn’t be a secret only known ahead of time to the few connected coaches.

By: Wrestling fan

Wrestling fan — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:22:27 +0000

The seedings really hurt the real #2-3 cause the leilehua kids got a 1st seeding when they are really a number 4-5. How do they seed a wrestler higher than the kids that beat them all season and never lost to them their entire career but yet seed them higher. I don’t get it. Also how can you go by wins when not all kids get a match every weekend but some do. There had only been 3-4 regular season tourneys this season. Not all kids showed up. It seems leilehua always gets favorable unearned seedings and no one has any say in it. The kids are the ones who lose out. It’s so sad to see. I hate seeing the real 1-3 on the same side of the bracket year after year. This includes the outer islands.

By: Cashmeoutside

Cashmeoutside — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:02:55 +0000

Jerry, you should sit in on OIA seeding meeting to keep us all informed on what really goes on.

By: Interested in progress

Interested in progress — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 01:28:13 +0000

From what I heard da seedings where based on your current weight class record for the,season and didnt include preseason or previous results..So if you wrestled all year at 120 and let’s say for example you won every presseason and regular season at 120 but decided to move up to 126 and your record is 0-0 you’re gonna be seeded low..Dats kind of what I heard…Maybe someone can clarify better. That’s pretty much what happened, plus some were submitted with inaccurate records. The biggest problem that I heard was that no criteria past records were used, thus resulting in bizarre seeds. Hopefully that will be fixed for OIAs.

By: Cashmeoutside

Cashmeoutside — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:01:47 +0000

Agreed. The purpose of seeding should be so that the best 2 kids in the weighclass don’t meet up before the finals. Assuming no upsets of course. Having the 2 best kids meet up in semis for westerns and then again at oia semis only hurts the oia kids at states. Enough of the bs and have a true seeding process.

By: from the stands

from the stands — Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:23:26 +0000

Jerry, do you think you could get something in writing from your league contacts describing how seeding is determined? I find it curious that this exercise is done every year, it is not re-inventing the wheel, but the outcome is always so unpredictable. Fans would hope that with the rules and correct data, most seeding outcomes could be predicted or replicated.

That definitely did not seem to be the case this year. If programs are given preference for whatever reason, everyone should be open enough to be able to discuss that.