Comments on: LIVE: state wrestling seeding meeting https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:56:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: talloola https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69455 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:56:03 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69455 If Navarro wrestled at 117 recently(after Jan 30) then she would have to weigh more than 109 to be able to wrestle that weight. If 107 is her eligible weight class at that time, then she would be eligible to weigh in at 107 or 112 without resetting her plan. I don’t know what she actually did, but she could have definitely done it.

Girls constantly start at a greater weight than their low weight. Most are around 2-3 weight classes higher at the start of the season and don’t ever make their low weight. To hold them to in weight class head to heads is almost impossible at the time of Officials and Pa’ani.

]]>
By: Nomas https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69451 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:21:02 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69451 Head to head is pretty black and white. There is hardly ever an argument that’s not lame for not using head to head as the first concrete criteria.

]]>
By: Ringworm https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69440 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:16:19 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69440 I read on here one of the p4p girls 107 Lahainaluna’s Navarro recently played up to the 117 division in Maui not sure if related to 97 Navarro but that’s 2 weigh classes up does your decent plan reset maybe she was 112 and went up 1 division? If you make low weight of 107 by leagues you already have +2lb it’s a game most will play. Bigger fish in the pond.

]]>
By: Gail S https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69438 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:40:29 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69438 My take. There are wrestlers who compete at weight, all season from day one. To me, that should be encouraged & they should be rewarded for that. Why “can’t” you be at low weight from the start? Their are wrestlers who hydrate scratch, at their low weight, no decent plan. It really is simply because they don’t want to. If holding a lower weight is too hard over the extended period, then maybe they shouldn’t be down that low.

How hard your cut is definitely makes a difference in your performance. A player who is a walking 100 vs a player who is a walking 105 meet up at 102 is one thing, they meet up at 97, I believe is another thing (you could probably make the walking weights even higher). Also, as an example. if a player weighed in for 97 but is playing up at 102 for team dual purposes, that makes a difference too.

To me the answer you are looking for is who is the better 97 wrestler, not 102. Data at 97 is unquestionable. Data at 102, although it is data, should be looked at with a grain of salt (or maybe not at all).

]]>
By: Talloola https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69437 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:12:34 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69437 I completely disagree. Wrestlers can’t necessarily be at their low weight classes until later in the season, so any head to head is important to consider.

]]>
By: Gail S https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69427 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 06:28:12 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69427 I had to double check with my sources and Jerry is correct….Hoshino & Navarro competed head-to-head only once at Moanalua Duals. I can now understand how the committee might have come to their decision.

Of note however is that the match was at 102, not 97. In the future, I think comparison of head-to-head matches should be for action at the weight being seeded. Especially at dual tournaments, wrestlers often compete at different weight classes, more for their teams than for themselves.

]]>
By: Jerry Campany https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69425 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 03:04:05 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69425 In reply to Talloola.

Pang did not wrestle at either Officials or MIT.

]]>
By: Jerry Campany https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69424 Wed, 17 Feb 2016 02:34:13 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69424 In reply to Gail S.

From what I hear Navarro beat Hoshino at the Moanalua duals, and that was their only meeting. Not sure about that, though. Did they wrestle other than at Moanalua?

]]>
By: Talloola https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69408 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:08:30 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69408 Just curious, but did Pang beat anybody in the top 6 at 120 this year? It just seems that the in weight class state placement is kind of ridiculous. Did he wrestle in Maui or Officials? If he did, then how did he do? I think we may be seeing the FInals in the semis at a few weights this year.

]]>
By: Wrestling spectator https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/live-blog-state-wrestling-seeding-meeting-2/comment-page-1/#comment-69397 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:09:40 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=59653#comment-69397 I believe that it is right that schools should be able to send 2 wrestlers from each school to the league championships. There was a lot of deserving players that were cut due to wrestle offs that could have been state placers. Please look at this and try to make this a new rule.

]]>