Comments on: HAWAII GROWN: Milton achieves perfection https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:01:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Paul https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113272 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:01:02 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113272 The bottom line is nobody would care if there wasn’t a Hawaii born player. And that’s that.

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By: anywaaaays!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113264 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 06:44:00 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113264 Alpha, “I think the bcs, big conference and ncaa learned their lesson when they did let an undefeated team from a small conf play in a big bowl game. . . Georgia killed them in the sugar bowl, remember? ”

This is cherry picking stats. If you want to talk about small schools playing in BCS bowls, then let’s look at ALL of the results, not just an overrated hawaii team:

Utah was the first team from a small conference to play in a BCS bowl. They destroyed pitt 35-7 in the fiesta bowl.
Utah smashed alabama the next year in the sugar bowl, 31-17.
Boise beats Oklahoma in the fiesta bowl 43-42 in the craziest OT thriller in recent memory.
An overrated hawaii team gets blown out by a georgia team that should’ve played for the national championship.
TCU beats wisconsin 21-19 in the rose bowl.
Northern illinois gets beat by florida state in the orange bowl.

small schools were 4-2 against power five schools in the BCS bowl era. one of the reasons why the bcs was disbanded was because of this. It’s obvious the best of the non-BCS/power 5 schools can compete with the best of the power 5. they just aren’t given the opportunity to do so. Especially because power 5 schools tend to avoid playing good mid majors during the season because losing to them would destroy their BCS/playoff chances.

it’s why hawaii had such a hard time getting big schools to play them during the june jones years.

” But you have to remember their ranked 12th. They wouldn’t have made it if there was an 8 team playoff.”

they would’ve gotten in. in an 8 team playoff, it would be set for conference champs to get in, the best non-power five school and two at large bids. most likely, they would set it up so that it would be a six teams, with the top 2 teams getting byes: each P5 conference champ and the best ranked non P5 team.

” Consistency will get them in, that’s the only way a small conf school gets respect, their gonna have to repeat this year’s results next season.”

you go by results in the season, not results from past seasons. and a reputation. that’s what’s wrong with college football. alabama did not deserve to get in. there’s a very good argument that as the only undefeated team in the land, and the fact that they beat auburn in their bowl game, they deserved to be in there and the playoff system needs to expand becuase right now, it’s extremely biased to P5 schools. but no, just being a small school in and of itself doesn’t mean the team is unworthy of being in the playoff.

UCF should’ve been in there, at least over alabama.

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By: Alpha https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113252 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 17:37:41 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113252 I think the bcs, big conference and ncaa learned their lesson when they did let an undefeated team from a small conf play in a big bowl game. . . Georgia killed them in the sugar bowl, remember? Nobody is gonna know how ucf would fare in the playoffs. But you have to remember their ranked 12th. They wouldn’t have made it if there was an 8 team playoff. If McKenzie wasn’t on that team nobody from Hawaii would give a flying crap about UCF. Consistency will get them in, that’s the only way a small conf school gets respect, their gonna have to repeat this year’s results next season. I can say if any school ranked higher then UCF had their sheduale the results would be the same for them. . . I dont know the same would be if UCF had Auburn, Ohio st or Wisconsins sheduale. . .

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By: anywaaaays!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113248 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:00:08 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113248 it’s hard to play in a big boy conference when the big boy conferences pass rules and policies to lock all the smaller conferences out of the playoff. it happened before the BCS, with the BCS, and now with the playoff (even though it’s not explicitly stated). college football is a multi-million dollar industry with a lot of the best contracts going to the power 5 schools. they don’t want to share their pieces of the pie unless necessary. it’s not a matter of UCF being like “hey, SEC. we want to be in your conference” and the SEC being like “why sure thing!”

and no, don’t be ridiculous, alpha. UCF is the best program in florida this year. University of Florida is 4-7 and fired their head coach. UCF already beat USF. FIU is 8-5. they’re not terrible but if you think a sun belt team is beating UCF, idk what you’re smoking. FAU had a really good season under lane kiffin, but they have three losses, two to navy and buffalo.

Maybe think the Stetson University Hatters are better than UCF?

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By: Alpha https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113232 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 23:05:43 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113232 UCF wants in, play in a big boy conference. . . Other then that, congrats on an awesome season. But imo, their not even the best team in Florida. . .

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By: anywaaaays!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113228 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:59:20 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113228 Even the auburn loss to clemson was EXTREMELY close: 14-6. Does this mean that UCF can beat all of those teams in the playoff? no. does it mean that they were good enough to have a spot to try? yes

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By: anywaaaays!! https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113227 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:57:45 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113227 Alpha, what the hell. You talk like Auburn is some kind of scrub team. Auburn lost to LSU, Clemson, and Georgia, and split the series with georgia 1-1. This is a good football team. UCF could definitely beat LSU. can they beat georgia and clemson? Well, they’re both in the playoffs this year, so I don’t see why UCF shouldn’t get a shot at playing them.

And don’t be stupid with the “lol if auburn is that good then why aren’t they in the playoffs, hurr hurr!”

The playoff committee selects the teams and there’s no way based on strength of schedule or results that alabama should’ve gotten in, but they used some BS like “alabama passes the ‘eye test’ to let them in.” You can’t say that auburn is or isn’t good based on some decisions by a playoff committee. Look at their body of work. They’re an extremely solid team playing in a very tough conference.

Can UCF beat georgia and then clemson back to back? Or oklahoma and georgia back to back? that would be difficult, but not many can. UCF deserved to be in there

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By: jason keuma https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113205 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:51:01 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113205 Alabama should not be in the “playoff”. If “they” took the four highest ranking P5 champions and then paired them up, that would be a playoff. You are using existing conference championships as part of the playoff, thus actually having 8 teams playoff. Really if you included the 8 highest ranking conference champions, that would include a large majority of the teams in the country having a shot.

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By: ahinalu https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113200 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 08:07:56 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113200 Coach York You Train Them Well in Mililani !

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By: Alpha https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/featured/hawaii-grown-milton-achieves-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-113199 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 06:59:50 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=96065#comment-113199 @Aol… if Auburn was that good, why weren’t they in playoffs? The only school left out of the playoffs was Ohio St. (That loss to Iowa hurt). Scott Frost just went back to his alma mater. SEC schools hurt their own conference cause it’s so tuff. When it comes to the iron bowl rankings and record is out the window. UCF “eked” out wins vs SMU , South Florida and Memphis. Maybe that was factor in their ranking? You honestly think UCF would beat the 2 teams AU lost to?

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