Comments on: Saint Louis, Damien (club) play 1st prep hoops game since February 2020

By: Rams33

Rams33 — Fri, 22 Jan 2021 02:17:17 +0000

But ultimately the rules haven’t changed all that much. This is what is written by our local government:

“Sports associated with educational institutions may operate in accordance with Department of Health guidance.”

So school sports can happen as long as schools are following DOH guidance. There is no new mechanism in place for applying for or receiving special clearance or waivers.

It’s not clear to me what waivers or clearance you’re referring to or who schools legally need to seek that approval from.

By: Falcon Future

Falcon Future — Fri, 22 Jan 2021 01:56:19 +0000

^^^ It’s way different this year because the state is in a pandemic due to COVID-19, so rules and guidelines for youth sports are different. Cannot be compared to past years. Sorry for not mentioning, I thought that was understood.

By: Rams33

Rams33 — Fri, 22 Jan 2021 00:59:45 +0000

This appears to be no different than non-league sanctioned scrimmages which happen every year at every school. Do all schools have to receive special clearance and waivers for all non-league scrimmages each year? Of course not.

By: Falcon Future

Falcon Future — Fri, 22 Jan 2021 00:30:18 +0000

These games are not sanctioned school sports. ILH, OIA and HHSAA already cancelled basketball season. The fact that Damien had to enter this game as a “club team” and other schools like MPI and Kamehameha declining to play tells you that some of the schools don’t want anything to do with this rogue idea.

Maybe if St. Louis is taking on all the liabilities and responsibilities then that’s a different story. It also means they should have received clearance and a special waiver from the state to conduct these games to be played outside of the guidelines that everyone else on the island is following. Do anybody know if St. Louis actually get a waiver? I don’t know.

By: Rams33

Rams33 — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 21:21:45 +0000

The most recent Honolulu proclamation has this wording:

“Sports associated with educational institutions may operate in accordance with Department of Health
guidance.”

So it would seem school sports can continue. But I’m not sure how club teams get around the rules in regards to the games St Louis and Damien have scheduled with club teams.

By: LiveAloha

LiveAloha — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:38:41 +0000

People please: “When we met with the Governor, we asked him a couple of meetings ago if schools, both public and private, are a part of the city orders or the states orders?” Caldwell told Hawaii News Now. “We decided to not create confusion, so the state controls that, so things like sports at schools both public and private, is something that would be regulated by the state through their proclamations.”

By: rebel rouser robert

rebel rouser robert — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 19:49:43 +0000

kudos to st. louis and damien for thinking outside the box. This state needs a few agitators to get things done in hawaii and get out of this rut we are in especially when it comes to our youths. The leaders from both schools had some balls to make this happen knowing they would get some fallout from some. Can’t figure out what the problem is since they practiced pragmatic protocol while playing the game. Not much difference between playing a basketball game without spectators versus shopping and standing in line at Longs on a Sunday.

By: really

really — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 07:52:59 +0000

Fair Points @Future Falcon.

By: Falcon Future

Falcon Future — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:17:16 +0000

Uhhhhm, is this for real? How did they play a basketball game when gymnasiums on the island are supposed to be closed. There are not supposed to be any organized sports happening right now, let alone in an enclosed gym.

Plus, the current Tier 2 rules is limiting sports activities to 5 people or less, not 5 on 5 basketball! I find it hard to believe that schools are ignoring the city and state rules to “support” these basketball games. Can private schools really trump the city and state rules and do their own thing? If the answer is yes, St. Louis football should set up a game or two with Punahou, and the volleyball teams need to start setting up their own games too!

Or is this just a big F-U to the ILH and HHSAA for canceling?