Comments on: Pupule’s ballot: boys hoops 2/10 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5298 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:53:39 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5298 OK, got a better look at your 10, Steve. Let’s see…

1. Maryknoll
2. ‘Iolani
3. Farrington
4. Punahou
5. Baldwin
6. Kalaheo (corrected)
7. HPA
8. Konawaena
9. Kamehameha

You’re missing one team. You mentioned that Kamehameha is “overrated” because they keep getting “lickings” from Maryknoll. This mentality is the product of an ILH-oriented thinker. In your mind, since KS hasn’t beaten MS, you should punish KS on your ballot? This is a list of the 10 best teams, period. Not of the 10 teams that MS has beaten or played.

Open your mind, young Steve. Open your mind. There is a wondrous world out there. Now please add a 10th team before we move on to next week.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5297 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:44:12 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5297 Jordan, thanks for the clarification! Helps a lot, though I hear the Luna boys lost tonight.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5296 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:43:12 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5296 OK, Steve, my bad. I’m confusing guys now.

1. I liked what Farrington did in the past few weeks just a wee bit more than what Maryknoll has done. They’re two outstanding teams, but in my book, Farrington is playing better basketball right now. More balanced (low post), more composed (by far). And yet, they could lose to Maryknoll and that wouldn’t surprise me.

2. You can call me a hypocrite. I won’t deny that my thoughts about my ballot change week to week. As a voter, I retain that right. Helllllll yeeeah. I might add this, Steve. This is a ballot about high school basketball. Yet you choose to use the word “hypocrisy”, which is about moral standards, beliefs and behavior.

Is everything all right in there?

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By: Steve https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5289 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 04:02:17 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5289 I did post it and you replied to it asking why I put kalani there but I meant kalaheo instead.

And maryknoll beat kamehameha by a huge margin and you still ranked maryknoll below Kam. You make zero sense.

Nothing wrong with Farrington being nber 1. But u fail to answer the question how Farrington was below maryknoll last week and now above maryknoll this week when NEITHER team lost during that week and yet maryknoll played the tougher schedule. So i will repeat myself again. Farrington did beat maryknoll a whopping 2 months ago. So please explain how Farrington was below maryknoll 2 weeks ago and then jumped ahead of maryknoll this week without even playing them again?

Your justifications for bumping Farrington up to number 1 contradicts itself when you couldn’t justify maryknoll being number 1 over kamehameha when kamehameha lost to maryknoll! The hypocrisy is obvious.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5285 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:38:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5285 In reply to Steve.

Uhh Steve …

1. I picked Kamehameha No. 1 right after they had knocked off the No. 1 and No. 3 teams in the Top 10. There was no “cherry picking,” but if I do ever cherry pick, so what? Cherries are good compared to what you offer, which is no list of 10.

2. Did Farrington and Maryknoll play yet this season? Who won that game? That’s head-to-head and it was a great game — won by Farrington. Next time, it could be Maryknoll. Either way wouldn’t surprise me.

But what’s getting old is that you still haven’t posted your list for this week. If you did, I missed it. Please post it. Pretty please?

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By: Steve https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5282 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:45:21 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5282 Then all I ask is how was maryknoll 1 last week and then dropped to number 2 this week when neither team lost? Farrington beat maryknoll 2 months ago. Shouldn’t have farrinngton been above maryknoll last week also if that was your argument? Maryknoll had tougher games than Farrington last week and they still dropped a spot?

This is like your kamehameha being ranked #1 over maryknoll, cherry picking events in the distant past to rationalize your picks.

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By: burnett timothy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5280 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:21:29 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5280 h

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5277 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:01:17 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5277 In reply to burnett timothy.

One point changes everything, so that’s pretty sad that the mistake happened.

As for projecting things like what if Maryknoll were in the OIA or Farrington in the ILH, that’s interesting. But this post is about ballots and Top 10 polls. I’m still waiting to see more of your Top 10s, people. Anybody?

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By: burnett timothy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5275 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:30:00 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5275 It was a great game, look at the start of the third quarter and you will see Maryknoll get shorted a point. School put in a dispute/complaint, HHSAA said it was preseason. Mona’s staff would answer. You may change your mind if you new they lost 76 to 75 on Joshua Burnett’s three pointer. It was not Farrington’s error, but they were help by it. What would Farrington’s record be if they had to play the ILH regular season with no weeks off while play Div II team.

Please check.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/pupules-ballot-boys-hoops-210/comment-page-1/#comment-5270 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:06:12 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=21090#comment-5270 In reply to Steve.

Consistency? In a poll?

Steve, polls and ballots are about adjusting to what happens on the court. For me, a lot of it is about head-to-head competition. I posted my ballot, flaws and all. But unless you post your Top 10, it’s all moot. There’s nothing to compare. Let’s see how consistent you are. I can’t argue against Maryknoll at No. 1 based on the strength of their accomplishments. The Spartans are having a great season. But I can make an argument for Farrington, which beat Maryknoll.

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