Comments on: OIA to demote Kalaheo boys basketball to Division II

By: JetWavy

JetWavy — Thu, 07 Mar 2019 00:32:46 +0000

@ 13

Hawai’i sends a crap ton of baseball players to college and pros, also. Teams come down to the ‘Iolani Classic and Punahou Invitational all the time and get their asses handed to them by local teams. From 2017-2018, this state has had 4 division one players come through the state. I’m sure there are a ton of states out there that can’t say the same.

By: Island sports guy

Island sports guy — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 06:44:38 +0000

Basketball in hawaii sucks period low grade terrible coaches with no experience plus no one cares about nothing but volleyball and football.

By: Loca1boiAnonymous

Loca1boiAnonymous — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 22:02:45 +0000

@DWB

I agree with your main point but by no means is Kalaheo the equivalent to basketball as Kahuku is to football.

By: DWB

DWB — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 04:51:36 +0000

Dropping Kalaheo down to D2 in basketball is like dropping Kahuku down to D2 in football…it should just not happen. I agree that regional powerhouses in football should have multiple divisions to keep games safe, fun and enjoyable from blowouts, time and time again….BUT we are talking basktball! Nobody is consistently blowing out KALAHEO! They have have more Ws than Ls in their win/loss column.

You are PUNISHING kids who have a DREAM to win the state D1 title! Kids who are more than capable and a school with a track record to prove it! A team other schools mark on their schedule as “the team” to beat!

Damien and Farrington both had deserved a D1 title shot this year and both deservingly wanted to move up and maybe the case should be made that the top ILH and OIA D2 team plays in the D1 tournament. However neither school has the track record of KALAHEO who made it to the D1 state tournament this year. Where is the logic in dropping them to D2, when they are projected to be better than last year? Go figure! SMH.

By: Adam Werner

Adam Werner — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 23:22:43 +0000

If everyone plays each other within their own geographical division, all east schools play east schools, and same for west schools, what’s the point of classification? I may be wrong, but I believe that’s the way its always been since D2 starting. I just speaking only for OIA.

I would just have the top 6 teams go to the D1 playoff and the next 3 go to the D2 playoff and play it out. For example, Farrington finished the regular season with a record of 8-3 or something close to that. That would have placed them between 2nd-4th in the east. Would they have done damage like they did in the D2 playoffs or states? Who knows? But they did beat both teams that made the OIA finals and was ranked at points during the season. The same can be said bout Damien. And look what two teams made the state finals in D2.

Should Farrington have been in D2, looking back in retrospect, no. I’m calling it know, if Kalaheo wins the OIA or states in D2 next year, someone is going to complain that they shouldn’t have belong. By having everyone play everyone else it makes no sense to classify and I think my suggestion for the playoff works best. The best of the best will be in the D1 playoffs, the next tier in D2 and if you didnt make any playoff, well there is always the next year.

Have a good day everyone.

By: Just saying

Just saying — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 02:11:56 +0000

I think this system is flawed. If Kalaheo advanced to the State Tourney, placing fifth amongst all OIA teams this year, they shouldn’t even be in consideration for demotion, especially with the fact that they have a young team, only one senior?. I think the league should look at the fact of how they did this past year, what they have coming back next year, and what they have coming from the JV team(and their record). Making States should exempt them, why not have a team like Kalani or Roosevelt go down? or other teams that didn’t make it to States? Farrington, although they made it to the D2 Championship game, lose a lot of seniors from this years team, what do they have coming back, and what do they have coming up from JV? What will verify them coming up to D1 next year?
Damien should’ve came up from D2 this year, they lost in the D2 championship game last year, so why did n’t they make the move this past year? It should’ve been automatic that they came up this year along with St Francis. who’s to say they would’ve even made it to States this year, with the schedule the ILH had, playing 3 games a week against top 10 schools on a weekly basis? Facing Maryknoll, Punahou, Iolani, St Francis, Kamehameha, St Louis, and Mid Pac.

By: Loca1boiAnonymous

Loca1boiAnonymous — Fri, 01 Mar 2019 01:27:57 +0000

@oldtimah

Kalaheo did not belong in D2 whatsoever the year they won states. Everybody knew that. It was almost as ridiculous as Damien being in it this year with the 6-7 transfer.

By: oldtimah

oldtimah — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 22:28:56 +0000

Alika took the DII State champs in 2012 and followed it up with the DI State champs in 2013 so why all the whining. It is what it is.

Both the legend Pete and Alika won and lost with class and were always in line for after game hand shakes. Up till this year the current coach used to stand and wait to the opposing players and coaches walked up to him.

KALAHEO has a great basketball winning tradition with great coaches they will make it happen.

By: NotaSandbagger

NotaSandbagger — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:52:25 +0000

So how does it work if a D2 clearly needs to move up to play D1? ILH Softball? Not much of a competition anymore.

By: Northshore

Northshore — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 18:27:49 +0000

Paul: And yes, that’s the criteria (power rating) used to decide what teams will be playing in Division I or II, not by enrollment. For several years, and it has been mentioned, when it comes to ranking Div I and II teams, they should never be ranked together during the season but you keep on ranking them by their win/loss record because you’re still waiting for a criteria that would be to your liking…enrollment. Hopefully next year, we will be see the weekly rankings by divisions and not by Japan’s Sumo rankings?lol! Mahalo for all the sports article, it’s been fun reading some of your articles.