Comments on: Maryknoll bumps Punahou out for No. 1 in boys Top 10 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:46:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Sweaty Murphy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121072 Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:46:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121072 How far did Kaimuki even go in 1992 with the Yugoslavians? Didn’t Kamehameha beat Hilo in 3OT for that state title?

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121071 Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:38:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121071 In reply to Mahatma Gandhi.

Beau was an outstanding student and would have thrived just as well as any private school. Keone would have been a dominant player in the ILH, too. Once he got healthy, his fire returned and the Bulldogs were on fire after a 7-5 regular season. I don’t know why they weren’t recruited. Maybe they were and didn’t want to go. Who knows?

As for the Serbian kids, from what I remember one of them had an older brother playing at Chaminade. Would you leave Eastern Europe to spend senior year in Hawaii, having some independence in paradise? It worked out for them. They weren’t huge scorers, but their length made a significant difference in Kaimuki’s defense. I wonder where they are now.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121069 Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:31:13 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121069 In reply to Northshore.

Any mid- or small-sized school should always have the option to play in a higher classification. But it’s simple enough for leagues to decide on a set criteria for the entire state, just like the California, Alaska, etc. If they do that one of these years, we will be happy to follow suit with rankings.

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By: Mahatma Gandhi https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121059 Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:43:38 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121059 Farrington does have massive enrollment. But you neglect to mention how the ILH is stealing their best athletes every year, football and basketball. Leaving Farrington with second tier players. Enrollment size mans nothing if the ILH is taking your best players. Eh Paul, you a Kaimuki grad. Tell us how Keoni Reyes and beau Albrechtson was not recruited by the ILH. And how those Yugoslavians in 1992 ever ended up at Kaimuki.

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By: Loca1boiAnonymous https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121055 Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:59:54 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121055 Everyone getting bivadees tangled over rankings. This is for fun guys. Can anyone tell me what the rankings were in week 3 of the regular season last year? I bet not. But we remember who won the OIA and ILH and state champs. Thats what counts. Rankings scmankings.

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By: Northshore https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121054 Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:27:28 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121054 Paul Honda: I sense that “enrollment” is one of your “true criteria” on having schools categorized in their respective division. As you’ve stated, “Campbell won the D-II football state title despite having nearly 3,000 students.” Farrington won the D-II boys basketball title and they also have a massive enrollment.” What about Kahuku winning the D-I state football titles and ranked number 17th amongst the high school enrollment? Should Kahuku compete with the lesser enrollment schools and that should make it a “true criteria’? When Campbell and Farrington won their respective div II football and basketball titles, it was based on the criteria and they deserved to win the titles. Enrollment is not one of the criteria and that’s how the cookie crumbles. Because schools are not consistently having a winning season, and some schools might have an outstanding year every 10 years its difficult to have a “true criteria”.

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By: Northshore https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121053 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 23:52:42 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121053 Paul Honda: At the present time, Hawaii high schools (private and public) are using a criteria. It might not be the criteria that you consider it to be a “true criteria” that categorizes schools by being in the open, div I and div II for football and div I and div II for basketball. What is your definition of “true criteria” because categorizing schools by “school enrollment, keeping OIA and ILH separate has already been discussed and until the system changes, the leagues must continue to do with what has been mandated. As a sports writer, waiting for the “true criteria” will never ever take place so why not do with what the readers are trying to point out to you. Since there are state champions for open, div I and div II football and div I and div II basketball and schools are already designated to compete in their respective divisions, there should be rankings for open, div I and div II. It might be a good season for Damien but still, they are designated as a div II school this year and should not be ranked along with the div I schools. True criteria according to your definition will unlikely happen and just do with what the leagues have decided on how schools are categorized because the way things are voted, you’ll be long gone and retired by the time the “true criteria” takes place.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121052 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:26:10 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121052 In reply to myopinion.

That’s why Maryknoll only got roughly half, six out of 11, of the first-place votes. It’s a very unpredictable season.

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121051 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:24:19 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121051 In reply to Scott Yamamoto.

What is YOUR Top 10 ballot?

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By: Paul Honda https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/maryknoll-bumps-punahou-out-for-no-1-in-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-121050 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:22:07 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103611#comment-121050 In reply to Northshore.

I’m looking forward to the day when we have true D-I and D-II rankings… but currently there is NO TRUE CRITERIA to separate the schools statewide. Every league makes up its own criteria. That’s why Campbell once won the D-II football state title despite having nearly 3,000 students. Farrington has won the D-II boys basketball title and they also have a massive enrollment. It’s not the fault of coaches and players at all. They have no say. When the leagues fix this problem, everything else will fall into place.

Until then, I like the fact that teams have to EARN respect from the panel, which is mostly coaches. Farrington did it in the past three weeks. St. Francis did it over a span of two-plus years. Damien is going through it now.

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