You are out of your numbskull mind if you think not having a full, complete roster had something to do with them losing their SECOND game together in PRESEASON. You act like Avea and Villa been playing together since intermediate. With a completed roster, Kahuku challenges, I can see beating 95% of the high school teams in Hawai’i history. It’s so crazy you guys totally downplay that Villa’s absence shouldn’t have mattered against a team they handled easily with him in the roster earlier in the season.

Going by your assessment of St. Francis beating the Fotu/Sauvao/Kaniho-less Kahuku team, the ’82 Virginia team that lost to Chaminade must’ve been the most absolute worse Division 1 team to ever lace em up.

..im waiting for that former punahou student educationfirst to chime in and say something negative in another article praising one of the top 3 point guards of all time on a Kahuku team that is top 3 all-time in Hawaii.

All the proof is in the fab15 article. When was the last time a hawaii team had the top 3 of 4 players (all college ready) in the state along with the gatorade POY?
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Sorry for being away for so long. But it was Spring Break and the family wanted to go to Abu Dhabi.

I was hoping to see anywaays at the luxious resorts and places we stayed at. Then I remembers, boy is on welfare so what was I thinking?

Like I said numerous times Villa is a really good player. I understand that anywaays cannot read so unless his mommy or a smarter family member reads it to him, he cannot find it in the numerous posts I have written before stating that I think Villa is the POY.

As for college ready? You might feel they are college ready. But it seems many college coaches and scouts do not feel the same. But you could have been talking about community college, juco, D2 or D2, or NAIA. so if that is the case, they are all 3 definitely college ready.

But if you are talking Division 1, I do not agree.

And regarding the Fab 15, are those chosen by coaches or media? I do not put much validity into media.

And like many others have said, a loss to St Francis ends the argument. DLow, never lost to a Hawaii team in like 3 years.

Finally, how was your Spring Break? I am assuming you stayed on island?

Injuries, academic ineligibility, trips, illnesses, etc., are all part of HS Sports. Numerous teams over the past 40-50 years have lost games since specific players were not playing. But, I don’t hear others making excuses. You dress and compete with who you had. When you make excuses, you insult the kids were suited up and competed to represent their school.

That is called real School Pride, something many of you bloggers forget at times.

But with all the Kahuku homers on here, they cannot see things objectively. But then again, if the Kahuku homers were not on this site, it probably wouldn’t exist.

So thank you and Mahalo to all the Kahuku Homers out there! You are truly appreciated!

This debate over ranking all-time teams/players is so subjective it’s nearly impossible to come to a decisive conclusion about it. The thing about Villa is that unlike the large majority of Hawai’i high school guards, Villa was an East Coast first-team all state selection. That would make Villa an all-state first-teamer in 2 different states which is not an easy feat at all.

As far as the younger Fotu goes… UH can kiss that ship good-bye. He got bigger fish looking at him actually going to NZ to watch him. UH would be a bottom of the list-school for him by the time all the colleges have offered him. Especially after how UH handled the situation with the older Fotu, why in the heck would he go here?

1. How good would that team be without that key player? I.e. Bulls without Jordan? Lakers without

2. What is the level of competition? To me the hardest thing to compare between high school competition back then and now is that back then there wasn’t as many opportunities for advanced basketball camps/ competitive outside leagues. Nowadays you can find both abundantly. PAL ball still available but so is Outside league where 8 year olds play at the same standards as competitive ball I’ve seen it as serious as shot clocks for 8 year olds here in Hawaii. This was not the case back in the day, that results in many kids back then never playing organized sports and only starting to learn in high school. So someone who did train hard like a Derek Low or otherwise would be good players playing against some not very seasoned competition. So it would be easier to run up the statlines back then compared to if they were playing now.

So, Villa is good, good enough to be a playmaker for Kahuku where we smashed a team with him and ended up nearly losing to that same team later. Probably if the competition was any tougher the team would have lost. Then he is playing against better competitive players than that of the past. No way to truly compare.

pathetic > crickets