Comments on: Govs, Lunas enter boys Top 10 https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/ The source for Hawaii's high school sports Thu, 10 Jan 2019 01:00:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: SPORTSPARENT https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120997 Thu, 10 Jan 2019 01:00:01 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120997 JetWavy, I agree, D2 teams should not get to keep their status during the regular season in the top half of the top 10, but I do think if a D2 team is dominating at their level, and has beat top D1 teams early in the year, they can hold a position in the 6-10 spots. The problem with that is there will be no way to compare them later in the year since they will not get to play the D1 top teams during states. It really is just bragging rights for the D2 teams if they can crack the top 10.

For those that feel the ILH is recruiting players from the OIA, where else are they going to get their student athletes (some are kinda just athletes to be real)? And for those that think that most OIA schools don’t recruit athletes, you are not being realistic. Remember, just because a team recruits doesn’t mean they get em. I see it going both ways, ILH and OIA poaching from each other. It’s just more often that the ILH gets the biggest fish because there is a dollar value associated with a private school education, and many of the best athletes get funded through scholarships or “Friends of the Program” funds. Parents and kids want the prestige of private schools much of the time.

In the ILH, when intermediate teams are playing each other, they are often pretty even, D1 playing D2, with D2 often winning overall. Once 9th grade starts, the D1 teams load up on the best players from both OIA and ILH D2, and the separation usually starts there. No complaints, it is what it is.

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By: JetWavy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120977 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:53:21 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120977 @SPORTSPARENT

D2 teams beating D1 teams does count for a lot… in pre-season. But once regular season begins and a team like Damien has a schedule that consists of Hanalani, Le Jardin, UH Lab, etc. etc. while a team like Mid-Pac plays Maryknoll, Punahou, Iolani, Saint Louis, (TWICE), Damien’s weak schedule should definitely drop them from rankings I could care less how badly they’re beating those other D2 teams. BTW, I agree with your one division statement. The era of the D2 state tournament, to me, has diminished the game in this state.

@OneTeam

Even recruited teams are allowed to have down years. Look at Kahuku they are definitely having a down year but that didn’t erase the fact that they had success with transferred talent the last two seasons. Same with Iolani. They may not have “studs” on their roster now, but not that long ago they were riding the coattails of a 6’9″ post who never had anyone challenge him in the paint in the ILH for 4 seasons.

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By: One Team https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120976 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:17:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120976 Name one Kid on Iolani’s team now that was recruited for basketball. Kahuku only one recruiting BB and Punahou taking all there FB players..

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By: SPORTSPARENT https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120968 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:59:00 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120968 Mahatma, you are right…all the ILH schools recruit, but guess what…now the OIA schools are doing it too….I see it first hand. OIA schools cannot offer reduced tuition or scholarships, but some can offer playing time and a chance to make a run at OIA and State championships. Also, lots of ILH boys are moving back to OIA because of behavior or educational issues, along with lack of playing time. Not all of them are going back to the district school they actually live in. Check the Radford teams, they got some brothers on the varsity and jv. It’s easier to make states from the OIA because they have more team spots in most state championship sports. I miss the old days where there were no divisions levels. If you were good, you were good. But at least now more kids get to play for “championships”.

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By: Mahatma Gandhi https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120967 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:53:40 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120967 ILH, the ILH is stealing the OIA’s best players every year. That’s why Farrington is Div 2. When I was a kid in the 1970s, only Maryknoll and University High had basketball only recruits. Punahou and Iolani recruits played at least 2 sports, even 3. Now even Iolani has basketball only recruits. They recruiting volleyball players too nowadays. Never used to recruit in volleyball, but they sport has grown in popularity to the point that schools want state champion volleyball teams,. Not good enough to be just competitive. Then in football, you have the win-at-all-costs St Louis Crusader Football Academy.

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By: SPORTSPARENT https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120966 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:50:36 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120966 So then a win by a D2 team over a ranked school in D1 should carry the most weight in the ILH…based on what you are sayin JetWavy, and that means both ways….the D1 team that loses that way to a D2 team should just about drop out of the top 10 poll? Come on….you gotta consider the teams involved, not just the Division. If that were the case, most of the top ILH teams would be out of the top 10…lol.

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By: Mahatma Gandhi https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120965 Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:49:29 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120965 Look at that. Top 5 teams all ILH schools. They stealing the OIA’s best players. Where is Radford? I remember when Radford used to own OIA basketball. Them, and their fine popolo athletes. Pete Smith meant everything to the once great Kalaheo basketball program. Now they just living off transfers from the ILH. Iolani gonna say they don’t recruit. yeah, right. They do. Volleyball too. Had one Iolani recruit a few years ago, Kupaa Harrison. The ohana was paying 10% of what tuition was and then held out his senior year for a 100% free ride. Iolani said no, so he transferred back to Kalaheo and led them to a state championship that year. Him and Kaleb Gilmore, who was at Maryknoll previously.

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By: ILH https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120954 Tue, 08 Jan 2019 17:58:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120954 Farrington is DII?

Wow. How did that happen?

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By: JetWavy https://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/boys-basketball/govs-lunas-enter-boys-top-10/comment-page-1/#comment-120949 Tue, 08 Jan 2019 04:56:55 +0000 http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/?p=103538#comment-120949 A single digit loss in ILH D1 should carry more weight in the polls than a double-digit win in ILH D2. Just sayin.

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