Although they are seeded No. 2 in the First Hawaiian Bank/HHSAA Division I Football State Championships that begin Friday, the Saint Louis Crusaders held on to the top spot in the latest Honolulu Star-Advertiser Football Top 10 rankings released Monday evening.
The Crusaders received eight of 14 first-place votes to stay just ahead of No. 2 Kahuku, which won the OIA D-I title for the first time since 2012 with a 20-7 victory over Mililani last Friday. The Red Raiders, who earned the top seed in the state tournament, finished four votes behind the Crusaders. Saint Louis received eight first-place votes and Kahuku received the other six.
The Red Raiders dropped from second to third on two ballots that put Punahou ahead of the Red Raiders. The Buffanblu jumped past Mililani for third despite their season ending over a week ago.
The Trojans, who had their 22-game winning streak against teams from Hawaii snapped, are fourth, followed by Kamehameha and Waianae, which earned the OIA’s final berth with a win over Farrington on Saturday.
Farrington remained No. 7 despite the loss and Kapaa was once again eighth. Baldwin, which won the MIL title, moved up a spot to ninth to switch places with OIA D-II champion Radford, which fell a spot despite beating Kaimuki last Friday.
The state tournament in both Division I and Division II begins this week with Baldwin/Waianae and Hilo/Mililani on Friday in an Aloha Stadium doubleheader.
The Division II tournament begins Saturday with Damien playing at Konawaena and Kaimuki playing at Lahainaluna. Both games are at 7 p.m.
| GIRLS VOLLEYBALL | ||
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| Updated: 10/23 | ||
| RANK | TEAM | VOTES |
| 1. | Kamehameha (10) | 100 |
| 2. | Punahou | 89 |
| 3. | KS-Hawaii | 80 |
| 4. | Moanalua | 67 |
| 5. | 'Iolani | 60 |
| 6. | Baldwin | 46 |
| 7. | Mililani | 34 |
| 8. | Mid-Pacific | 27 |
| 9. | Damien | 20 |
| 10. | University | 14 |
What are these guys smoking? I mean I like Punahou too but damn…. How much more bias can you be….
Alright I’m calling it. It will be an ALL OIA State Chanpionship this year. Mililani don’t make me a liar. Lol
@Hahashanda
Nothing would make me happier. After all these years, we still get no respect.
If these voters would just simply WATCH games that Kahuku has played and St Louis has played, they would see a much larger separation in quality of teams. I say Kahuku is far more ahead in their game than St Louis is. This has got to be some Halloween joke lol
Let it play out on the field, all these townie teams are high maka maka with their off-season QB camps and speed clinics until a power team come smash them in the mouth and they still make excuses.
Kahuku just won Friday night, all about smash mouth football, great to see the old school football…. Every team has their own identity, Hilo, Baldwin, Mililani, Waianae, St. Louis, & Kahuku… Kids that did clinics & extra work in the off season benefits for playing in the playoffs… Doesnʻt matter what happened during the season, a new season starts Friday night…. All about the State Tournament, hard work will reward someone November 20th…
Good Luck to all programs & let the best team win….
Why you all getting so heated lol. Kahuku’s performance vs Mililani was nothing to write home about. Mil D is not better than STL. So what do you think the Crusaders will do when they’re not forced to play their 3rd string QB? Let me help you out: i see points. A lot of points.
Kahuku offense didn’t look like they did in previous games. Just a bad night for them like every other team has once in a while. Maybe the fact of not having ah hoys energy to power their O but I don’t see it happening again for remainder of the season. Big Red’s O will find it again. My take is they should be respectfully number 1 because of their record regardless of schedule. Simply beating the teams you play against is all there is to it. Every year kahuku faces criticism towards their schedule but history shows it didn’t matter what division or schedule they had cuz they’ve finished at the top more than any school in this era.
@AOK
Kahuku was using their 3rd and 4th string QB because #1 is out for the season and #2 is injured. So Kahuku can beat you guys using their 4th string QB but when Mill and St. Louis have to got to the #2 QB all of a sudden you guys wimp out and cry wolf and send letters into the media?
pfffft! Townies!!
Once again! It’s how you finish the season! Stop crying over rankings! RRFL
Bias. Just my opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if kahuku takes the state tittle and still ranked low. Every other poll had kahuku at #1. But not these guys and scoringlive.com. im curios why so bias
True enemy of the state
Uuuuuh wow, like all of the above with written pilikea,….like kapakahi and kalakoa back and forth yet still nothing written solved that’s for sure the samo samo read yet written with different kind of cosmetics and camouflages;…EH PEOPLE like bum bai pau just gotta wait 3 more weekends to let our varsity boys do their warpath smash mouth dance and like we coming home to celebrate too;..oh about the Star-Advertiser ratings like them are MINI PREP ratings and more important is the national MAX PREP ratings,..like them are in god we trust,..he,..he scouts honorable.
LMFAO! So after we SHUT DOWN the most prolific offense in the HISTORY of the state…and I mean GOOSE EGG…we STILL get no respect from SPORTS WRITERS (i.e. non-players). St Louis’ D couldn’t even shut out ‘IOLANI.
At least those who rank the State Tournament got it right.
Oh well…more fuel for the fire…
But then again, I’m still picking Trojans over Crusaders, so we probably won’t play St Louis. Especially if Trojans D plays the way they played in OIA championship game. When your leading RB is also your QB (and it’s not be design), then you’re in trouble.
@AOK: *IF* Crusaders get past Trojans…and that’s a BIIIIIIIGGGGG *IF*… then “I see dead people… A lot of dead people.” As in another GOOSE EGG for da best Scoring Defense in the History of this State *IF* we play you.
You don’t have a Timoteo or a Malepeai, and your OL is average. Good thing Tagovailoa is a great scrambler…cuz he’s gonna NEED that… especially vs Trojans awesome pass rush D and, if it comes to it, our D.
Not ONCE in this season has any Hawaii sports writer predicted ZERO points for our opponents (ok…maybe McKinley)… Which means they’ve been WRONG… A LOT. That’s why they PLAY the game…not TALK about it.
Good luck next Crusaders… You’re gonna need it.
“The Red Raiders dropped from second to third on two ballots that put Punahou ahead of the Red Raiders. The Buffanblu jumped past Mililani for third despite their season ending over a week ago.”
Those voters were either drunk or high… Or both.
Even thought I am a St. Louis alum and supporter, I have to agree with the sentiments of the Kahuku faithful here. How can Kahuku at this point not be rated #1? They are undefeated, they did what they had to do with the schedule they were dealt. It seems as though their efforts have become minimized for reasons they have no control over. It would be interesting to read the comments from each of the voters justifying how they arrived at their respective votes. I cannot, though, at this point see how Mililani could be rated at #4 with both McKenzie Milton and Dillon Gabriel not running the team. If MM is indeed able to recover and return for the tourney things will get much more interesting.
Not hating. Just an opinion. We will all see the results in another few weeks. As a famous sportscaster would say, “That’s why they play the game.”
OUT
Other than this poll and scoringlive, what other Hawaii Polls are there? And who cares about the polls? They are just opinions, so there is not right or wrong. Since there are no head to head match-ups between STL and Kahuku you really can make an argument for both.
Now I can understand if one team beats the other in the final and then is ranked #2. But that isn’t happening here. I could also understand if Waialua or Damien was ranked #1 but that isn’t happening either. Some people think the ILH is better, some think the OIA. Who cares?
It’s not like the poll is absurd. The rankings are pretty much in the correct tiers and they all get to keep playing to see who should be number 1. And when subjectivity is involved there is always going to be a disagreement.
You can flip flop the top 2 and at the end of the day who cares? Everyone uses different criteria to vote. Some use the regular season only. Some use the preseason. Some use the body of work over the last 2-3 years.
At the end of the day the last poll is usually correct since I have never seen the team that won the final game not be ranked #1. So there is no problem.
Stop crying over nothing! Really, I got embarrassed when our fans started booing Mililani. I’ve coached there, my entire family is old time and still big time supporters. But alot of kahuku fans are just big time cry babies, never happy! Just support the boys and be classy! We’re turning ourselves into the enemy of ourselves! Support the boys and coaching staff and don’t worry about the rankings. Our play says enough! OG RRFL you FUAMS!
Too much talk about this. Let them play!!! Too much crying about ranking before, now, whenever – ranking after the last game is the only one that counts. Crap talk should stop too otherwise you gotta eat some words top of looking like a fool. If you good, no need cry, no need brag, no need talk crap on other teams, just gotta play it out. So GoBigRed – Shaddap!!
@NoCry
Like Winston Church said:
“We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender”
When something is unfair we need to speak up. These forums are another place some of us have chosen to defend our community. It is uncomfortable, but we cannot put our head in the sand and hope things work itself out. We know the boys going take care of business, these forums are just another “beach” that some of us chose to defend.
I just psyched myself up…gonna go lift in 88’s gym he bought in Kahala.
I agree with you 008 & NoCry. Look at the poster who is crying. It’s the same lady that cries on almost every post. She won’t regardless of how much sense you two make. Watch out I feel insults and excuses coming soon. She’s very predictable. But she would like you to know she has a “great” job that affords her the luxury of blogging.
We as fans of the sports and of our kids who play need to be better examples of sportsmanship if we want them to be that way. I do not see or hear any of our players talking trash, we as parents, former players, fans should not be doing it either. We all have our opinions, we can be civil about it. In the end, it comes down to who is left standing at the end and wishing the best to all in the game as for many, it continues even after high school. Lets be great fans and better sportsmen as we cheer for all our kids no matter where they play and proud no matter the outcome. Play clean and fair both the athletes and the fans. Go BIG RED!!!!!
Who cares. Kahuku’s secret weapon will be StL. The young alumni coaching of Tata,Hao,Welch etc.is the “young factor”. Defensive coach at Stanford,UCLA and Vanderbilt and with a bunch of Kahuku atheletes studs, do you think this Tata will not draw up some scoreless defensive schemes? People we have seen offensive outburst in the past State games. Defense wins championships.
Some of the people who are voting must have ties to St . Louis , Punahou and Kamehameha?? Both Punahou and Kamehameha done for the season and they are ranked higher than Waianae?? I guess just like Kahuku , Waianae did not play quality teams?
All y’all are GRAZY!!
No worries as the old saying goes…. BUMBYE YOU LEARN!!
GO BIG RED!! RR4L !!!
Kamehameha whipped Waianae’s butts in Preseason, and still would give them a whipping today, if any other O.I.A. team played St. Louis, Punahou or Kamehamehatwo time each in a season there would be no push over games, do you really think that St . Louis, Punahou and Kamehameha would lose against teams like, McKinley, Castle, Kailua, Waianae, Farrington, Kapolei, Leilehua, maybe they could, by Forefit other than that , it aint gonna happen. Nov. 20 is the day everyone can talk, right now it’s all hype, CAL LEE will bring home the Trophy back to the I.L.H. this year.
@ilh. All The teams you mentioned besides Waianae and Stls are OUT! OUT! ect…. OUT! OUT! Enough with your woulda and coulda. Pre and regular season is over! We expect to see your next reply next week. Take it easyyy, Stls has a bye so should you.
@008 – You’re right with the boo-ing but from where we were sitting and where my in laws were sitting on the opposite side, it was the leftover Kaimuki fans that started it. Most of the Kahuku fans on our side did not join in but some did, which I was disappointed with. Either way, it shouldn’t have happened but what’s done is done. Go big red!
ILH teams are out due to formatting and the 4 leagues inability to reconfigure what many feel is a tourney that features too little teams.
Kahuku and Mililani are two of the best if not the best teams in Hawaii. But I would have to agree that McKinley, Castle, and several other teams are not very good. Iolani is the easiest team to play in the ILH, and while they are not at the level of Kahuku, Mililani, and Farrington, they are not as bad as the lower tier OIA D1 teams such as McKinley, Castle, and Aiea.
How many yards did Kahuku rush against Mililani?
@Realistic: “But she would like you to know she has a “great” job that affords her the luxury of blogging.”
…and I count THREE posts from you since my last post this morning. Guess you are in the same boat of this person you ridicule… Hello kettle.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!
VERY INTERESTING,…like the future for St Louis and Mililani Football;….like can see the dotted line offers to UH whereas if JJ returns and TC gets pulled;….sounds so familiar but more obvious this go around if it ever take place but still not great for everyone?
Realistic Realistic. Wherefore art thou Realistic?
Sooooo obvious. As soon as get called out for hypocritically accusing others of “blogging” on here… *poof* gone. Or maybe just using another alias.
HAHAHAAAAAA!!!
shoo fly
As long as your team is winning you can say all the good stuff, than once your team lose you find excuses, Punahou fans kept saying that their 2nd round lost to Punahou was only a fluke due to 6 turn overs, and in the play off game it won’t happen again, they didn’t make six turn overs but still lost the game, now no words from Punahou, so don’t talk to early Kahuku and Mililani, cause one or the two of you are next.
Aaahhh shaaduupp! You not used to all the talk because this is the 1st time in 5 years you guys made it this far. Take the stick out your but and enjoy the trash talking.
What are you talking about fool? BigRed shouldn’t you be staying away from the field? Rumor had it that you were within 50 yards of the field with a gopro taking video. SHAME ON YOU! I am just wondering. Did you register yet like you were supposed to?
Realunztic. Great within you, I sense the struggle is, Young Padawan. Hurt yourself, do not.
Shoo fly.
#registeredoffender #notallowedatpractice #hastoblog
I enjoy watching the game, and settling it on the field. I also notice that the comments tend to be more positive when the posters put their first and last names. Just something I noticed.
The Mililani v. Kahuku game was heavily flagged, hoping to keep control of the game? There were quite a few penalties, some warranted, some from kids being kids (stupid), but it was a good game. What more could we have asked for, Best offense verses the Best Defense. I stayed up to watch it. I look forward to watching next week also Kahuku v. Hilo/Waianae.
One thing my wife noticed, how much the announcers talked up Mililani’s Defense on how it was doing a better job (the score was 7-0 Kahuku). How was Millilani doing better? Their average scoring would have had 14 on the board by the end of the first. If anything, Kahukus D was doing what it has been doing, and Mililani’s O (when the back up was in) was not scoring. She asked, “do they not like Kahuku?” “I dont know but they sure like talking up the other team.”
Next game, the sound will be off. Hope no one gets injured, and clean play.
Hernandez and Felipe like to speculate too much on plays for any opposing team of Kahuku. The interception Kahuku made both DB’s were stride for stride with Mililanis WR until the ball was thrown short. Then the DB’s stopped running to anticipate the short ball while the Mililani WR kept running, Hernandez then said “WOW that Miliani WR was wide open…if Milton threw that ball it would have been a touchdown”!
really!!!
If Milton threw an accurate ball that the Mil reciever could catch he would have been tackled and not a touchdown.
Also the announcers like to play the woulda coulda game for passing offenses. On every down of a spread offense there are WR’s open but its the QB job to find the man and deliver a perfect strike, then its the WR job to catch it.
Well the announcers like to speculate and say….if only the QB saw that WR open….or…the ball hit him right in the hands if he caught it it wouldve gone for a TD.
Well no one talks about the running game and how….if only that Guard held his block for a split second longer….or…if only the RB hit the B gap instead of the A gap he wouldve been gone for a TD.
All BIas’s are against Kahuku because of their less then exciting ground and pound game.
@jam master j…that’s the landscape of the football world nowadays…spread the ball around, put points on the board and put people in the seats. It’s exciting and infuses energy for the fans and especially the media world. So when you have a Kahuku team running a vanilla offense it’s easy to see why everyone still have doubts about them. Many people tend to forget that execution in all 3 phases will increase your chances of winning a game. Kahuku does all them exceptionally well of all the 6 teams left in the states. So let’s just sit back and enjoy the ‘underdog’ roll because when it’s all said and done the Red Raiders will be the last team standing!
#LB365 #RRFL
Realunztic = #brokenrecord #outtacomebacks #limitedIQ