Saint Louis drops a spot to No. 12

Saint Louis receiver Chance Beyer tried to gain yards after a catch in the first quarter against Kahuku. Photo by Bruce Asato/Star-Advertiser.

Despite a 30-14 win over Kahuku, ranked No. 2 in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser Top 10, two-time defending state champion Saint Louis dropped a spot in the USA Today Super 25 released today.

The Crusaders (3-0), who remained at No. 10 in the MaxPreps Xcellent 25, dropped to No. 12 in the USA Today rankings. Saint Louis was passed by Miami Central (Fla.), which actually lost a game over the weekend.

The Rockets lost in five overtimes to No. 6 St. John’s College (Washington D.C.). The Cadets, quarterbacked by Kahuku transfer Sol-Jay Maiava, face No. 1 IMG Academy (Fla.) this week.

Saint Louis is back on the field to play Punahou in a critical ILH clash on Saturday night at Aloha Stadium. The Buffanblu are coming off a 43-21 victory over No. 3 Mililani and could rise in the latest Honolulu Star-Advertiser rankings released later today.

Saint Louis has now won 18 games in a row dating back to 2016 and has outscored its three opponents this season 146-27.

Here are highlights from Saint Louis’ win over Kahuku.

COMMENTS

  1. Jacob Makaiwi September 10, 2018 10:45 am

    #12 in the Nation in that poll is still amazing. And it’s great to put Hawaii football on the map for the rest of the nation to see that we got ballers out here. Hopefully it can help more kids here in Hawaii to become student athletes in college. Congrats to st.louis! Historically and currently the best Hawaii high school football team, especially with the Lee brothers. Looks like Sol-Jay is doing well on his team in the mainland as well. Imagine if Kahuku still had him! But Kahuku always got the talent and heart to contend and win the title, so they’re fine. And Punahou just came off an awesome game against Mililani. So you never know what will happen when they play St.Louis this weekend. We just have to wait and see. Good luck on all the teams throughout the rest of the season. Go Mules!


  2. Robocop September 10, 2018 10:52 am

    I think they may fall more as the season goes on. It’s because of a lack of ranked competition. Other mainland teams play each other and they are all in the top 25-50. Saint Louis only had Narbonne


  3. Notes September 10, 2018 11:32 am

    ..and Narborne isnt doing to well either. I hear many public schools on the mainland dont want to play these big private schools that recruit and soop up their rosters, St. Louis better set their sights on national competition because soon these local OIA schools will get tired of being blown out and not want to play them either.


  4. TooMeke September 10, 2018 12:34 pm

    National rankings (Current MaxPreps)

    StL – 7 (0 losses)
    Kahuku – 26 (1 loss)
    Punahou – 67 (1 loss)
    Narbonne – 130 (1-3 record, 3 losses to #’s 7, 8, 198 – all blowouts)
    Mililani – 186 (2 losses)
    Campbell – 244 (0 losses)
    Kam – 409 (1 loss)
    Kapolei – 491 (2 losses)

    To be honest, I see all these teams (except Kapolei) beating Narbonne this year – it’s a down year for them but still ranked 130th. On the flip side…NONE of these teams would beat Bosco…not even StL…especially with how average their offense looked against Kahuku’s D when missing Ah You.

    But we are competitive on a national level…top 7 are in top 500 (out of several THOUSANDS)…for one of the smallest states. Stop complaining.

    RRFL.


  5. BigMauka September 10, 2018 1:18 pm

    Want to go up ypu gotta play up, you drop even if you dont play on your bye week. You gotta stay consistent, if you play a lower team an not blow them out like dominating you will drop. You gotta play in the top 25 an do well to move up. Saints need to do IMG, Bosco in otder to xlimb quick. Good Luck guys


  6. PUNFAN September 10, 2018 1:29 pm

    Our next win will be against Saint Louis; their first loss.


  7. Expose st. Lulu crusaders September 10, 2018 2:46 pm

    St. Louis is banned from traveling to mainland cause the coaches hired prostitutes and got alcohol for players 20 years ago in Vegas. Google if u no believe.


  8. My heart sore!! September 10, 2018 4:23 pm

    Wish the best to all Hawaii High Schools!!! St. Louis coaching staff did an awesome job preparing for Alabama!! But they got UH instead!! Yes Kahuku Offensive Staff went airborne, new staff new theory will equal same results!! Losing to the Real Airforce!!! Now if they look at History, It shows Kahuku winning with their strength, which is Ground and Pound!!! Defense and special teams!!!! They will never repeat as State champions if they still pretend to be a pass first program !!! Wake up or lose the rest of your games!!! Coach Tata understood our Strength and knew the History!!! Big mistake of letting him go. Good luck to all the Schools and may the best team Win !!! RRFL


  9. Awrite!! September 10, 2018 4:24 pm

    Expose st. Lulu crusaders – you not right! Thats the past, If you really want to do some investigating you should see how many seniors turn 19 right after the football season and before graduating. OIA kids dont take advantage of that “hold back a year” tactic. Someone on here mentioned Tua was held back, I wonder how many other STL kids fit that bill.

    IMG, MaterDei, SJB…all these TOP schools need a birth certificate check, all their athletes look like full grown men.


  10. Washappenin September 10, 2018 4:28 pm

    Where was Kahukus SHUTDOWN D that everybody was talking about couple years ago. Bring dat guy back.


  11. hwnstyll September 10, 2018 5:14 pm

    Maybe they dropped spots because they played at home(homecoming next week at Aloha Stadium) instead of at Kahuku like every other OIA and ILH team. Cant reward teams that refuse to travel to tough games. IMHO


  12. TooMeke September 10, 2018 5:54 pm

    Kids today shouldn’t be punished for sins of two decades ago… time to lift that ‘ban’ if there ever was one.


  13. ILH September 10, 2018 6:07 pm

    Hold back or not, Tua is starting at the highest level in college right now. Won the National Championship his freshman year for Alabama. Kids in the mainland been doing that for years. Do You know how many NFL players that got held back? It’s legal and it’s happening so get with the program. Top high school teams in the nation is loaded with them. That one year helps them either academically or physically size wise. If you can’t beat them join them. At the end of the day everyone is trying to give their kids an opportunity to get a scholarship because college ain’t cheap. If a kid is mature at his real age or has great grades than that’s awesome but there are some kids who fall short and has 1 more chance to make it up. Hawaii has a rule where no kid left behind in public schools. So you can only repeat at a private school meaning grands$$ but others think of it as pay now so you don’t have to pay way more for college and work hard on and off the field to get a scholarship. While some parents disagree with the situation, colleges are offering these kids.That’s what my friends told me 😉


  14. Team808 September 10, 2018 6:37 pm

    The only way Hawaii teams are going to move up on these “Maxpreps” & “USA Today” Rankings is if they schedule Mainland teams.

    Next year Hawaii should schedule a double or triple header “Hawaii vs. Mainland” Classic

    Similar to 2002 in which Long Beach Poly & De La Salle came down to play Kahuku and St. Louis


  15. Awrite!! September 10, 2018 7:05 pm

    Lesson for the Day!

    OIA parents, hold your baby boy back in the kindergarden cause if you dont your OIA football team will have TRUE age players.

    Your next and only option will be to wait till 7th grade and transfer to the ILH to hold your kid back a year so he can be a falaniks (old man), and win state titles with all the other falaniks.


  16. ILH September 10, 2018 7:32 pm

    Winning a state title would be awesome but they don’t do it for that, it’s to get college scholarships. OIA parents go ahead and do it because it has been proven. You watch them on Saturdays (college) and Sundays (NFL). If not you still come out with a degree that was payed for, for your future job🤝🤝


  17. Choloropicrin September 10, 2018 7:56 pm

    Wasn’t Kahuku’s Inoke Funaki held back too? And was 18 during his senior year?


  18. Awrite!! September 10, 2018 8:55 pm

    Chloro- I believe some Kahuku families caught on and started holding their kids back in the 2000’s, but thats because they saw what Cal Lee was doing over at STL in the 90’s and I believe Cal saw what the mainland schools were doing back in the 80’s.

    I know me and my family (Kahuku generations of past and present) never did it. But aint it funny that once Kahuku started to have some players held back, they started to win titles? So in a head to head battle with the same aged kids Siuaki > Cal. The 14yr STL win streak in the 90’s needs an * next to it.

    ILH – if winning a state title is not important for STL, why did Cal walk off the field and not accept the 2nd place trophy in 2015? I believe I heard many STL alumni say that they dont accept 2nd place finishes. If “Cheering and supporting all Hawaii kids” was practiced like how you guys preach it, I think you would have been happy for Kahuku to win instead of being haters. You guys only support your own which is understandable because money is what drives the ILH schools and scolarships only matter for ILH kids, not OIA kids.


  19. ILH September 10, 2018 9:29 pm

    Scholarship don’t matter for OIA kids? 😮 I think you speak for yourself because I have a lot of family and friends attend Public school and the grind for their kids is the same. Cal does not speak for us, if that’s the way he felt, that’s him. From my point of view is, all our Hawaii boys make it big in this big world. I cheer for any Hi kid that plays for any college no matter what high school they came from. I was just explaining on the reason why parents did the hold back. I could careless about private or public schools. At the end of day, it’s all about our kids future to be brighter than ours. 🤝🤝🤙🏽🤙🏽


  20. Question Mark September 10, 2018 9:57 pm

    It should always be what’s best for the kids…education is at the top of the list!!
    Although I see some value in being ranked nationally…I think we should just concentrate on what we do in Hawaii for now. There is great competition here and getting better and better every year!!
    That’s just my very humble opinion!
    MAHALO!!


  21. TooMeke September 11, 2018 5:38 am

    I believe that someone posted elsewhere that of all the current D1 football players, TWENTY come from Big Red Country…with 14 of them graduating from Kahuku…

    So please tell me again the incentive to go to St LuLu…presumably (proven false by actual facts) for a “better” chance at a scholarship?

    And if you say “better education”, don’t count St LuLu in that group…Puns, Iolani and Kam? Yes…but not St LuLu – their “focus on education” is a joke – I personally know boys who were flunking out at public school and got ‘accepted’ to St LuLu (with free tuition, no less) because of their athletic prowess – so getouttaheawidatBS.

    The only REAL incentive to attend St LuLu is to win State Championships…period. Kids can get an equivalent or even better education at public schools (it really depends on the commitment to education by both kids and their parents, regardless of what school they attend).

    Go sell Kahrayzee somewhere else…


  22. Charles Amai September 11, 2018 8:30 am

    @Awrite!!….Flaws in your statements.

    1. Mater Dei just dropped the Bishop Amat game because of an ineligible player (+9 semester-foreign exchange student) via Clearinghouse audit. Shit happens.

    2. If we’re putting history on the table. Let’s all remember Kahuku forfeited the entire season because of ineligibility. Again Shit happens.

    3. Plenty of STL vs Kahuku games where the KAHUKU players would not shake hands after the game. This is well documented starting all the way back from the Doug Dayz.


  23. Alpha September 11, 2018 9:27 am

    There was an article last yr saying St. Louis was exploring the possibility of going independent. That would be the only way St. Louis gets national respect, but till then they have try and work with any top school to fly to HI and play them.


  24. Jimmy H September 11, 2018 9:43 am

    In Prep Bowl Years STL would have 19 year olds, but that changed when they introduced the State Championship format…which then Kahuku won their 1st of many titles, because the playing field was now level.

    In present day the age restrictions are still in place. This prevents private schools from holding back transfers to retain an extra year of eligibility.

    Top 15 in the national rankings should be enough. No way STL travels all year to play on the continent. I do like Team808’s idea of bringing back the double header. That Mater Dei & LBPoly double header was huge for Hawaii.

    Lastly, why does STL have to travel TO Kahuku and beat them at their field to prove they are better? Isn’t a neutral site fair enough? Holy smokes the craziness is getting out of hand.


  25. justAsking September 11, 2018 11:04 am

    what exactly is the age permitted rules? Also is anybody really regulating it through out the the school year not only in the football season


  26. Notes September 11, 2018 1:00 pm

    The strategy now days is to pull your kid out of public school after the 7th grade, homeschool a year at home, enter ILH as an 8th grader when he wouldve been a 9th grader at his public school.


  27. TooMeke September 11, 2018 1:28 pm

    The age rule (across the country) is that the player cannot turn 19 years old before the end of the football season. Parents on the mainland have been holding back their kids for decades to take advantage of this.

    Example: Tua turned 19 in March following his last HS season. (that was the secret he was hiding when he put his finger to his lips and said “shhhhhh” after he scored the winning TD in that championship game… HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! J/K). He already had enough credits to satisfy college requirements right after the season, so he left.

    Another example: Tate Martell turned 19 in January right after his final season at Bishop Gorman (which team had a bunch of 18-to-19 year-old players that year – that team would’ve spanked this year’s Bosco and Mater Dei).

    Hockey players in Canada have been doing this for years. Go look at the HS All-Star hockey teams – filled with players born in the first 4 months of the year.

    Why? Because that extra 9-12 months makes a YYYUUUUUGE difference in boys/men physical maturation. If one team has a bunch of seniors who are 18-soon-turning-19, and then other team has a bunch of 16 and 17 year-olds…guess what? I’m putting my $$ on the team of MEN, not the BOYS. (cuz that’s what it takes to beat Big Red).


  28. hwnstyll September 11, 2018 4:55 pm

    Jimmy,
    Why doesn’t St Louis travel to play at Kahuku instead of at home (Aloha Stadium)? Where is your homecoming? YUP Aloha Stadium! How long is your bus ride compared to Kahuku kids? You don’t think the calls go different at Kahuku with the crowd and the fans there? Noways you get as many passing yards as last week with the non holding calls you get at your home field.
    Play at Kahuku and see how the game might end up different after your boys are on a 90 minute bus ride on a friday afternoon after going to school all week and see how ready they will be, try it and see how the second half goes for them. the best play the best anywhere.
    How many games have you played at Aloha Stadium this year so far?
    Yup ALL of your games so far. yeah neutral site my ###


  29. anywaaaays!! September 11, 2018 5:07 pm

    Bottom line: Football factory schools like Saint Lulu and the rest of the ILH need to be banned from the HHSAA. Disband their football programs and return the kids back to their homes to play for their home schools. We’ve had enough of the recruiting and the win at all costs mentality that destroys what it means to play football in Hawaii. We already know that “Coach” Cal Lee spent his entire career breaking the rules, holding kids back a year, and recruit recruit recruit. I talked to Governor Ige about this issue last year during a lunch and he didn’t do anything because the tentacles of the ILH reaches deep. We’re tired of all of this. Disband the ILH. Without football, these private “schools” have nothing. RRFL!


  30. Awrite!! September 11, 2018 6:03 pm

    hwnstyll – Notice that when STL plays Kahuku they always have Michael Goshima the center ref calling the holding calls, he is a STL alum, Cal got his boys in many places to help tilt things in their favor.

    Ask any ref and they will tell you that technically every single play someone on the OLINE (on any team) is holding, imagine having the luxury of letting things slide for a while and then make that ONE call that can kill a drive.

    Umpire referee Michael Goshima a St. Louis class of 1969 Grad at :25 second mark congratulating the STL receiver for his game winning TD against Kahuku in the 2017 title game.
    https://youtu.be/DTznNJASJeI

    *STL did go to Waianae this year and I think they go Kahuku next year.


  31. anywaaaays!! September 11, 2018 6:36 pm

    I agree with Awrite!! The bias is plain to see. The refs are Saint Lulu grads. The HHSAA is led by iolani grads. At one point, Cal Lee actually tried to run for OHA in order to mobilize the hawaiians against their own public schools. The only people who can’t understand this are idiots who refuse to see reality. RRFL!


  32. Awrite!! September 11, 2018 8:19 pm

    hi anywaaaays!! hows your alma mater Punahou doing?


  33. anywaaaays!! September 11, 2018 8:28 pm

    Kahuku is doing great. Tough game against Saint Lulu but can’t help recruiting and biased refs and media. RRFL!


  34. Awrite!! September 11, 2018 11:19 pm

    What year did you grad from Punahou?

    oh wait, you posing as a Kahuku alum…Cause you know only Alumni can us RR4L in there sig.
    What building on Kahuku campus always gets flooded when it rains hard?


  35. Coach C September 12, 2018 6:10 am

    It’s just a game.lol


  36. Coach C September 12, 2018 6:12 am

    Cheval doing a great job at U of H. They 3-0!


  37. TooMeke September 12, 2018 6:28 am

    Awrite! – better question: what year you grad and who was your English teacher? lol…


  38. hwnstyll September 12, 2018 7:41 am

    STL played Waianae at the stadium this year, last year they played at Waianae preseason. Out of all the open teams STL has the most home games. Kamehameha has 1(farrington request) Punahou 0.
    Just facts.


  39. NoCry September 12, 2018 8:32 am

    WOW! Kahuku peeps in the past wanted St Louis and Punahou to play in an open bracket so that they would have some competition but now making excuses for losing. They said the ILH will not have undefeated seasons cuz they had to go through Kahuku but what happened? Watch out what you ask for – you just might get it (and regret it). I mean, from home field/90 minutes of travel, to recruiting, to coaching, to referees, they (Kahuku excuse makers on this forum) have an excuse as to why they lost. fn crybabies!!! Once the pads are on, whistle blown, and ball snapped, it’s a game. Either you make excuses or you make shit happen – can’t have both!! All the whiners no can be winners = too much blame blame blame (excuses). I thought you guys were bigger than that but I find out differently. I support the kids – not the teams – you all should do the same…


  40. hwnstyll September 12, 2018 9:00 am

    easy to say no cry when you have all the advantages and wont meet others half way.
    Recruiting- kids and parents choice I get that.
    Refs- not your fault your complaining every game to officials for 30 years have given you an advantage, I get that.
    Refusing to play Kahuku at Kahuku year after year-just plain scared?
    No cry now when people call you out, and this is not the kids we are talking about , we are talking about decision makers, calling out unbalance in scheduling is actually supporting all kids not opposing.
    Kahuku has won 30 in a row at home, what if States was played there every year, you tell me STL wouldn’t say something? Home field means nothing? Kahuku has not won 30 games in a row, but at home they have.
    Get real.
    The true best play anywhere anytime.
    one way to solve it is to actually do it, should have been done this year like the other 2 ILH teams.


  41. Awrite!! September 12, 2018 5:41 pm

    @anywwwwaaays!! – still waiting…

    What building on Kahuku campus always gets flooded when it rains hard?

    I guess you wouldnt know because you never did attend Kahuku. Just stick to posting things about your own Punahou alma mater.


  42. anywaaaays!! September 12, 2018 6:35 pm

    lol you tell me, awrite a.k.a. education first


  43. Awrite!! September 12, 2018 6:51 pm

    Hahahaahaa! you dont know because you are not from Kahuku.

    Focus your energy on cheering for your alma mater Punahou, not trying to bash on Kahuku – you going get cancer with all that negativity and hate in your body.


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