Despite a 40-point blowout win over Narbonne (Calif.) and a loss by a team ranked ahead of them in the USA Today Super 25, the Saint Louis Crusaders remained at No. 14 in the nation in this week’s rankings.
De La Salle (Calif.) jumped ahead of the Crusaders to No. 10 after a 14-0 win over Folsom (Calif.). The Spartans were unranked entering the season.
Saint Louis moved up two spots in the Max Preps Xcellent 25 released Sunday night to No. 10 in the nation.
The Crusaders will not play another mainland team this season. Saint Louis thought it had reached an agreement to play Bishop Gorman (Nev.) on Aug. 31 at Aloha Stadium, but Gaels head coach Kenny Sanchez told Hawaii Prep World in March there was never an agreement.
“Chris (Brown) called (Saint Louis coach Cal Lee) to see if they had an open date,” Sanchez said. “That is pretty standard. We ask a lot of schools if they have open dates. If we determined that we wanted to go, we would have gotten back to him. But that conversation did not happen. It turns out we couldn’t afford to go.”
Brown, a former All-WAC player for Hawaii, is now an assistant coach with the Gaels.
Saint Louis last played Bishop Gorman in 2012, losing 52-40 at Aloha Stadium.
The Gaels are currently ranked No. 11 by USA Today and will host No. 3 Mater Dei (Calif.) on Friday.
Saint Louis will play its next three games against teams ranked in the top five of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser Top 10, which will be released later today.
The Crusaders travel to play at No. 3 Mililani on Saturday before a game against No. 2 Kahuku at Aloha Stadium on Sept. 7 in a rematch of the last three top-tier state championship games.
Saint Louis will also play No. 5 Punahou at the stadium on Sept. 15.
St LuLu got jobbed… such is life.
Their next three games are going to be a lot more difficult than Narbonne…says a lot about HI HS football. Probably go 2-1 over the next three weeks…maybe.
Too meke I think Kahuku goin beat lulu
TooMeke = TooValea . More difficult than Narbonne? Didn’t realize we had other nationally ranked teams in Hawaii. Stop hating already, life’s too short.
typical Red Ravers… hating and then turn around and cry about everyone hating on them! lol
Eh… take a cup of kava and chill! lol
They going beat Mililani. Defense too dominant.
Narbonne is weak sauce this year – and it’s already been proven. Duuuuhhhhh…
Narbonne would also lose to Kahuku and Mililani… and maybe Punahou, Kam, or Campbell. They looked weak, played weak, are weak.
Both the ILH & OIA teams reach out to kids at the youth team levels. The ILH has leverage because they can make offers that gives the parents the opportunity to decide to enroll their student in a school with good athletic facilities and traditions as well as education. Although the OIA schools can’t make offers, without a solid transfer rule, parents have made decisions to have their students go to other schools outside their districts.
Bet these 2 RR (toomeke, red dog) donkeys never played football in their life prolly been bullied thru out their school yrs no friends, lonely, bummed, gpa assuming 1.5, no one signing their yr books haha prolly still virgins. Gay boys.
Men among boys on another 14yr streak, next three games they may hit 100 and allow just 7, and that 7 will be from Mill not Ka’who’ku.
ToppDoggs, you right about men among boys, especially when 90% of the roster are grade repeaters. That most certainly does qualify them as men!!
Opinion, you do realize that you can’t be 19 to play any playoff games in the ILH right? Public school you can. This is coming from me playing for St Louis knowing people who were 19 in states back then
I am not a St.louis fan but I am gonna say this. St. louis will blow everybody away by 50 points including Kahuku and Mililani. This is the best St. louis team ever in the History of Hawaii football. The best high school team ever from Hawaii and probably in the nation. If I was Mililani, I would be so scared cause they got beat up physically by Kamehameha except for the final score. well, St. louis is 5 times better than Kamehameha. score St. louis 57 Mililani 7.
dafuuuuule’…..eeeeeee – I PERSONALLY know guys who played for St LuLu “back then”…and they turned 19 RIGHT AFTER the season…duuuuuhhhhhh…cuz they were ‘held back for academics’ (although we all know St LuLu’s academia is a joke).
Let’s see who else did this recently???? Oh…that’s right…TUA… turned 19 yo in March last year…right after his senior season at St LuLu… Couldn’t beat Kahuku when he was 17-going-on-18 (you know…the NORMAL age of graduating from high school). No wonder he left right after the football season.
Same with BG’s QB when they beat Kahuku that same season: Tate Martell turned 19 that following January…
Seems to be a common theme: gotta put ADULT MEN (I do believe 18 is still the age of being an adult, correct???) on the field to beat the BOYS of Big Red.
Pst – NO 19 year-olds can play ANY HS football…Public or Private… but ‘barely hanging on to 18’??? Can bu…can…just like “back in da day” when the MAJORITY of St LuLu’s starters were ALL a year older than their counterparts on opposing teams…
Let me s.p.e.l.l. i.t. o.u.t. for you: 18-turning-19 yo’s VS. 17-turning-18 yo’s….
HAHAHAAAAAA!!! go sell your stupidity somewhere else. ain’t got time for dat BS…
DOH!!!!!
RRFL.
8 Hi HS Fan….So, there could be “recruiting” in the OIA? OMG! You mean some parents enroll their kid in an outside district OIA school solely because of better educational possibilities? LOL. Love your post.
4 Gampus Segurity…Right on! I’m not a RRFL. But, I do have the highest respect for their football program. However, some of their fans are just so unreal. You hit it right on the head.
14 TooMeke…Way back then, I used to hear stories that Punahou used to hold their players back as well. Just stories, though. Anyway, do you know whether St. Louis holds all their incoming students a year back? Or, just selected ones?
Someone should do a statistical analysis. Average age of senior starters on all ILH & OIA teams and compare them.
12 Dafun…I can’t recall the Kahuku’s all star player’s name. But, it was about 2 or 3 years ago. He was a big guy who played defense, running back and quarterback. Might have done the punting too. Wasn’t he a year older than the rest of his class? Great player.
Let me break it down.
In the 80’s and 90’s the mainland schools were holding their kids back for athletics
Cal Lee was the only one doing it here in Hawaii, so not only recruiting but holding them back…he had GROWN A$$ men – CLEAR ADVANTAGES!
IN the mid to late 90’s Kahuku kids saw their classmates leave Kahuku intermediate to play at ST. Louis but in a lower grade level. It was weird to play sports at Kahuku with a kid my own age and then when I graduated from Kahuku he was still playing at St. Louis the following year, almost like Cheating already.
So Kahuku families learned of this tactic to keep your late born kids back and be 6 months-1yr older than his classmates. Come 2000-01 Kahuku had only a few players that were “late born, held back”, and guess what? they beat St. Louis to win a title. The playing field was somewhat even and Cal Lee lost, he cried and retired cause he knew he had no more advantages.
Now-a-days All families who want their kids to succeed athletically are holding their kids back, it starts mostly in the kindergarden for OIA kids but most families are doing it when the kid transitions from 6-7 or 8-9th grade. My aunty in Kaneohe has a 7th grade daugther who has potential in volleyball, the Punahou coach wanted her to transfer to Punahou. With the advice from the Punahou coach they took her out of school after the 7th grade and she “homeschooled” for a year, then the following year when she supposed to be a freshmen at Castle she entered Punahou as an 8th grader. She will be a 18yr old senior turning 19 right before graduation her SR year.
Being held back is no longer an issue because everyone is doing it in the OIA and ILH. It was only an advantage in the 80’s and 90’s when Cal Lee did it to win 14 titles.
When Cal came back in 2015 he had to find other ways to get an upper hand, so he started recruiting outter islands. Holding the NIKE summer camp at STL so he can recruit the elite talent. Now hes even using politics to re-align schedules and try to control the conferences to favor him and the ILH.
Rod York has also started holding summer camps at Mililani and that is how he gets some of the top kids to transfer to Mililani.
Dafun, do your homework before you pretend to know the eligibility requirements to compete in Hawaii. HHSAA rules states as long as a senior hasn’t turned 19 before the first day of high school, he or she is eligible to participate in all state sports. This means a player can turn 19 in late September of thier senior year and still be eligible to play any sport his or her senior year. This includes ILH regular seasons in the fall, winter and spring. Nice try though.
Dafun, just spoke to an AD currently at an ILH school. Rule across the ILH is as long as you don’t turn 19 before September 1st, you are eligible. Again, research and homework, very important before pretending to know the actual facts
I still don’t know what awrite aka anyways has against St louis
Lol right opinion. Who are you the AD of st Louis? Lol. All these guys on here bashing St Louis
20 Awrite!! Good job! Now that looks like the whole story. From your original posting it sounded to me like St. Louis was the only school holding kids back. Wait. Holding kids back. Isn’t that just like red shirting? Nothing wrong with red shirting, right? If what you say about Mr. Lee and Mr. York’s training camps is true, then kudos to them for being so innovative.
Dafun, check my posts, at no time have I bashed St. Louis. Retaining a student is a parental choice. I’m stating the facts. You’re wrong on being 19. Do some research. You’ll find out for yourself. Nothing wrong with admitting you’re wrong.
Anywaaays! is that idiot from punahou he has no substance in his posts and cannot tell you no Kahuku stories because he is not from Kahuku.
It wasnt till 1998 when the HHSAA tried to stop Cal Lee and his 19yr old players from playing in the prep bowl.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/98/09/22/sports/story3.html
Guess how long it took for Kahuku to beat STL in the state championship game after they banned ST. Louis 19yr olds? The very next year 2000-01 Kahuku State champs!
Now 2015 Cal Lee returns to STL and brings all his transfers from neighborislands.
konawaena DB – Luca Vartic
maui DE – Tristan NIchols
Waipahu LB – Jordan Iosefa
Kaiser LB – Isaac Matautia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC_07oToRuM
I have nothing against STL or PUNS for pursuing athletic excellence, but just stay in yo own lane!
Everybody gotta eat but why is it that when a public school starts to get a bigger piece of the pie (ala kahuku and Mililani winning titles) things gotta change? Like trying to get 2 ILH teams into the playoffs and now the leagues gotta merge?
The ILH (more specifically STL and their Alums) decided that if Kahuku is going to win any more titles then they need to play all the ILH big 3 during the season, instead of just once in a title game….as if Kahuku has the same resources, facilities, money and recruiting abilities to be on the same level as the ILH big 3.
In 2015 When they lost to Kahuku- Cal went on camera and made the statement…”it would be nice to play Kahuku in the regular season so we can get used to their smash mouth style”. He didnt say the OIA, just Kahuku. Sure enough a few months later the ILH proposes to the OIA to combine leagues and offers 3 Million$$$, OIA says no!
In 2016 after they beat Kahuku in the title game Ron Lee says “the competition in the OIA is weaker and we knew it would come back to bite them…we dont have a soft schedule we play Punahou and Kam so we were prepared for them”.
If the OIA is a soft conference then why does STL want to merge? Because they want to make Kahukus path to the title game harder and this also opens the opportunity in the future to get all of their big3 into the post season. They trying to shut the OIA out which violates Lavar Balls policy of STAY IN YO LANE!
The ILH pretty much shut the OIA out in all other sports AND that is how the rich families operate, they need to win at everything.
ps. If Iron sharpens Iron then why aint the other ILH sports merging with the OIA to help the OIA teams rise up to better levels? oh wait! the ILH dominate all the other sports already so the OIA can be forgotten about.
Awrite!!
Thank you very much for explaining your life on why you hate cal lee and st. louis school….LOL complain and cry all you want. that will not change anything. so keep explaining yo life even though youre wrong. but its expected from fans like you, too meke, and anywaays who never play the game. if you did play then you prob was on the bench or had issues because i have good friends who played against st louis in the 90s (yes they are starters) in the prep bowl and not once i hear them complain bout all the stuff u guys complain about. ok thats all. go tigers and go warriors!!!
@Kamehameha #!
I got $5000 on Kahuku and Mililani not losing by 50 to ST Lulu?
STL needs to schedule their games like Bishop Gorman and play 3-4 Top 15 teams from around the nation every year.